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A regular podcast about watches. Hosted by Fratello Magazine. During our podcast shows, we discuss watches, the watch industry, watch collecting, watches events and more. Make sure to subscribe!

  1. 15 hr ago

    Fratello On Air: The Watches That Got Away

    Welcome back to another episode of Fratello On Air! We've been away for a couple of weeks, but we're now back (sort of) and have taken the time to record. This week, we're talking about the watches that got away. Yes, this is a sad episode, but not really. The fact is that both of us have been very lucky while collecting, but that doesn't mean that there weren't moments of heartbreak and regret. Enjoy the show! Since we last spoke, Mike has been in Brazil, back in America, and on a long weekend in Surrey to celebrate an anniversary. Meanwhile, Balazs has been in Hungary and Chicago before returning to the Fatherland. Yes, we've been keeping the road hot, but we've also been keeping our eyes peeled for watches. Handgelenkskontrolle We kick off our show with some travel talk. Mike fared well at Heathrow while Balazs enjoyed the typical antics at Frankfurt airport. We also discussed how America seems to have its passport control process in line now. Regarding shows and movies, we mentioned Crime 101, We Own This Town, Reacher, The Handmaid's Tale, and Lioness. Regarding the Handgelenkskontrolle, Mike wore his Patek Philippe Calatrava 570 all weekend for the anniversary. Sadly, it needs a service after stopping in certain positions overnight. Balazs is sporting a more robust choice: his Rolex Submariner 5513. The watches that got away Regrets, we have a few. But, as mentioned, we've been extremely fortunate during our collecting journeys. We've found amazing watches along the way, but the misses always surface. Today, we each mention a few of the pieces that we didn't buy or sold and wished we'd kept. Mike kicks it off with a very rare Citizen. The Jet Para Water Professional reference JT1307051 is a unicorn among rare JDM pieces. Roughly six years ago, Mike was locked in a Yahoo! Japan battle for hours before backing down at roughly €4,500. Yes, that's a lot for a watch no one knows, but the fight was addictive. Sadly, it went on too long, and the price reached an uncomfortable level. Since then, maybe one other has come up for sale. Balazs recalls 2010, when he was first out of university. At that time, he came across a reverse panda Rolex Daytona 6265 for $18,000, and it was sadly all the money in the world for him. Now, life begins at $50,000 for a similar example. Mike also dredges up a story about a vintage chronograph. A 60s reverse panda Movado M95 with terrible pictures was listed on eBay with a $0.99 starting price. He sought help from none other than Fred Mandelbaum, who told him to tread carefully. In the end, he lost it for roughly $2,100. Today, these watches sell for much more. The Heuer 2446 makes Balazs' list of regrets. He was in a small group in the early 2010's with a weekly Excel file of watches for sale. The so-called Jochen Rindt was available for €4,500, but he wasn't educated enough about the watch to make a decision. Today, expect to pay roughly €15,000 for the racing-inspired timer. Mike brought up a Rolex Day-Date 1803 in white gold with a chalky blue dial. In the podcast, he incorrectly remembers it as a Buckley dial, but in fact, it was a normal piece with baton indices. Still, the watch was stunning, and it was gone within 12 hours. It was available for too short a period for him to sleep on the decision. Alas! Finally, Balazs mentions a watch he once owned but sold, which he wishes he had back in his collection. The Nivada Grenchen Datomaster is a rare beast with a stunning color combination. At one time, Mike, Balazs, and Chase (from Oak & Oscar) all owned one and shared a picture in Basel with the three pieces together. Perhaps Balazs will obtain one again someday. We hope you enjoyed today's episode, as it was a personal look at our collecting journeys. As always, thank you for listening, and feel free to let us know if you have any ideas for future shows.

  2. 28 Jul

    Fratello On Air: Rethinking The Definition Of Entry-Level Watches

    Welcome to another episode of Fratello On Air! This week, Mike is in Florida, and Balazs is in Hungary. But we're here for you! In today's discussion, we tackle a listener suggestion. We're talking about entry-level watches and how brands approach this. Hint: it's very different today, with greater expectations from the buyer. Jumping into watches 15 to 20 years ago was a much different affair than now. Social media was barely present, prices were lower, and microbrands were almost non-existent. Our listener, Cezary, asked us to consider the brands representing the new entry-level category. We do that, but go further and talk about what this term means today and how larger brands interpret it. We hope you enjoy the show! Handgelenkskontrolle We start our show with some travel banter. Balazs had a lengthy drive to Hungary with his baby daughter. It was relatively challenging, but after one night and 12 hours on the open road, he is enjoying some family time. Meanwhile, Mike flew from London to Miami and slept most of the way before and after watching Marty Supreme. Once again, The Odyssey surfaces during our chat. So be it! Then, we discuss LeBron James and the surprise signing with the Philadelphia 76ers. For the Handgelenkskontrolle, our choices couldn't be more different. Mike is enjoying the pool and jogging with this durable Citizen Promaster BN0220. Balazs has dressed it up with his Rolex GMT-Master 1675. Entry-level watches When it comes to entry-level watches, our listener specifically asked about the Seiko sub-brand, Lorus, and whether it has replaced Seiko 5 as the low-cost option. The bottom line is that we don't think so. There's nothing wrong with these pieces, but they don't seem to be aimed at enthusiasts like the old 7S26 pieces were. Instead, it shifts our discussion to what we think has really occurred. As Seiko has raised prices, the company expects buyers to join the journey. In other words, the price of an affordable watch, as viewed by brands, has changed.  Cezary also asked about Longines and whether the brand has become the new Omega. This came up because Omega's prices have drifted upward and Longines now occupies this price bracket. Our view is that there is still a large difference between the two, but that Longines has improved mightily. This leads to a further discussion on the remaining Swatch Group brands and how the hierarchy works. Our feeling, again, is that a brand like Omega wants a buyer to remain loyal and not move to a different brand under the corporate umbrella. Finally, we talk about the rise of microbrands. These companies have become the new entry-level darlings. However, the challenge for these companies is reach and differentiation. Still, for enthusiasts who conduct a bit of research, this is where the opportunities lie. We hope you enjoyed today's episode, and thank you for listening. As always, let us know if you have topics for future shows!

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A regular podcast about watches. Hosted by Fratello Magazine. During our podcast shows, we discuss watches, the watch industry, watch collecting, watches events and more. Make sure to subscribe!

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