Pursuit With Cliff - Cliff Gray

Cliff Gray

Hunt. Fish. Spear. Get Better at It. Interviews with those that have done it.

  1. 9 HR AGO

    3,120 Wolves Later – The TRUTH About Wolf Control

    Most hunters think wolves can be managed like any other predator. The data says otherwise. In this episode, I sit down with Justin Webb, founder of the Foundation for Wildlife Management (F4WM), to dig into the unfiltered reality of wolf control in the West... what works, what doesn't, and why the "predator-prey balance" we all learned as kids isn't how this actually plays out on the landscape. In this episode: Why hunter success rate on wolves is under 0.25% — and what that means for "managing" themThe story of a pack that dug every trap out of the ground after smelling wax sand on a caught wolfHow F4WM removes wolves at $1,100 vs. $9,000 per wolf for state Wildlife ServicesSuitable habitat, livestock depredation, and why Colorado's wolf situation was predicted years agoHow sportsmen can actually plug into wolf management instead of just complaining about itMentioned: F4WM Membership & Banquets — https://f4wm.org Wolfer Summit (Aug 6–9, Coeur d'Alene, ID) — https://f4wm.org/events/annual-wolfer-summit/ Justin's Wolf Trapping Master Class — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGCLbkDpqis F4WM Instagram https://www.instagram.com/f4wm_wolf_management/ --- FOLLOW CLIFF YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/CliffGray Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/Cliffgry/ Facebook - https://facebook.com/PursuitWithCliff Pursuit With Cliff Podcast https://pursuitwithcliff.com/interviews-and-podcasts/ Cliff's Hunt Planning and Strategy Membership  https://pursuitwithcliff.com/membership/ Hunt. Fish. Spear.  (Experiences, Courses and Seminars) https://pursuitwithcliff.com/Experiences Merch https://pursuitwithcliff.com/shop/ SUBSCRIBE TO CLIFF'S NEWSLETTER: https://PursuitWithCliff.com/#Newsletter

    1hr 16min
  2. 5 DAYS AGO

    Tahr or Elk? - Hunting NZ vs. Hunting The West

    In this episode, Jurgen Schwanecke and Cliff break down how hunting in New Zealand actually works, from public land access to species like tahr and chamois, and what makes it so different from hunting in the U.S. We also get into the realities—terrain, weather, physical demands, and why success isn’t guaranteed just because opportunity exists. Jurgen also talks about culling work and the skills that come from shooting a high volume of animals in real-world conditions. 00:00 — Why New Zealand Might Be the Best Hunting Country 01:24 — How New Zealand Got Its Game Animals (1850s Origins) 11:30 — Jurgen's Background Guiding the Flat Tops in Colorado 13:25 — Conservation Culture Clash: Anti-Hunters in NZ vs. the US 16:37 — How New Zealand's Hunting System Actually Works (Tags, Seasons, Land) 21:05 — Bringing Firearms In: NZ Gun Laws After the 2019 Shooting 23:56 — DIY in NZ vs. Over-the-Counter Elk in Colorado: Which Is Harder? 27:25 — Fitness, Terrain, and Why NZ Rewards Going Deep 30:03 — If You Only Hunt Once: Why Tahr Should Be the Trip 32:35 — Red Stag vs. Elk: Calls, Behavior, and Tactics 34:17 — Bowhunting Culture in New Zealand 36:14 — Using NZ as an Off-Season Practice Ground for American Hunters 39:43 — Bringing Trophies and Meat Home 41:03 — Cultural Norms Americans Should Know Before Hunting NZ 47:25 — Jurgen's Culling Work: Goats, Deer, and Night Shooting 50:29 — Lessons From Killing Thousands: Shooting Positions and Setups 55:25 — The .223 as a Serious Hunting Cartridge 58:26 — Terminal Performance: .223 vs .308 vs .270 1:01:31 — Shoulder vs. Crease: The Big American/Kiwi Shot Placement Debate 1:10:18 — Why Jurgen Hunts With a .270 Winchester 1:12:05 — Gear Differences: What Kiwis Carry vs. What Americans Pack 1:15:44 — Jurgen's Guiding Operation: Public Land Wilderness Hunts 1:18:34 — Planning Your NZ Trip: Trip Length and Helicopter Access 1:22:42 — Where to Find Jurgen Online & Sign-Off Jurgen Schwanecke’s youtube and instagram https://www.youtube.com/@strider_media https://www.instagram.com/strider_media/ --- FOLLOW CLIFF YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/CliffGray Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/Cliffgry/ Facebook - https://facebook.com/PursuitWithCliff Pursuit With Cliff Podcast https://pursuitwithcliff.com/interviews-and-podcasts/ Cliff's Hunt Planning and Strategy Membership  https://pursuitwithcliff.com/membership/ Hunt. Fish. Spear.  (Experiences, Courses and Seminars) https://pursuitwithcliff.com/Experiences Merch https://pursuitwithcliff.com/shop/ SUBSCRIBE TO CLIFF'S NEWSLETTER: https://PursuitWithCliff.com/#Newsletter

    1hr 25min
  3. 20 MAR

    Hunting Colorado in 2026 - Draw Details and Current Winter Conditions

    Colorado’s draw system is changing, point creep is accelerating, and hunters need to rethink their strategy for elk, sheep, goat, and moose in the coming years. In this episode, Cliff sits down with Jimmy Oswald to break down the current outlook for Colorado hunting ahead of the upcoming draw. They start by discussing Colorado’s unusually dry winter and what historically low snowpack could mean for wildlife, habitat conditions, and the upcoming hunting season. While winter conditions matter, they explain why summer moisture and fire season will ultimately have a bigger impact on elk behavior and hunting success. The conversation then shifts to major changes coming to Colorado’s draw system. Beginning in 2028, half of the available tags will move from a pure preference point system to a weighted lottery. Jimmy explains why this change is already affecting hunter behavior and why point creep could spike in the next few draws as high-point holders rush to use their points. Toward the end of the episode, Jimmy shares insights on sheep, goat, and moose draw strategy, including which units he currently likes and how herd dynamics and tag allocations affect trophy potential. Follow Jimmy at https://www.lksoutfitters.com/.  --- FOLLOW CLIFF YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/CliffGray Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/Cliffgry/ Facebook - https://facebook.com/PursuitWithCliff Pursuit With Cliff Podcast https://pursuitwithcliff.com/interviews-and-podcasts/ Cliff's Hunt Planning and Strategy Membership  https://pursuitwithcliff.com/membership/ Hunt. Fish. Spear.  (Experiences, Courses and Seminars) https://pursuitwithcliff.com/Experiences Merch https://pursuitwithcliff.com/shop/ SUBSCRIBE TO CLIFF'S NEWSLETTER: https://PursuitWithCliff.com/#Newsletter

    1hr 47min

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