This episode is a big one.Not only is it Episode 50 of WDYMT, but I’m joined by someone who helped shape the very idea of creative podcasting.Today I’m sitting down with Debbie Millman — designer, author, , illustrator, educator and the legendary host of Design Matters, one of the longest-running podcasts in the world.For over 20 years and over 500 episodes, Debbie has interviewed some of the most influential voices in creativity and culture — including Rick Rubin, Brené Brown, Milton Glaser, Simon Sinek, Questlove, Marina Abramović, Paula Scher, Jessica Walsh, Tim Ferriss and Neil deGrasse Tyson.Long before podcasting became what it is today, Debbie was already creating space for deep, thoughtful conversations about creativity, identity and the lives behind the work.In this conversation we go right back to the beginning.Debbie shares stories from growing up in Brooklyn, the moment she first understood the emotional power of brands, and the unexpected career path that eventually led her to become President of Sterling Brands.We also talk about the early days of Design Matters, recording interviews on a telephone line from the Empire State Building — years before podcasting exploded.Along the way we explore:• Why meaningful careers often take decades, not years• The courage it takes to change direction later in life• What Debbie has learned from interviewing hundreds of extraordinary people• The power of curiosity, resilience and storytelling• And what it really means to design your lifeThis episode is especially surreal for me — because WDYMT wouldn’t exist without Debbie and Design Matters.Massive love to Debbie for joining me for Episode 50.Sit back, enjoy.WDYMT TO THE WORLD 🌍🩷Stories from the heart that make mums proud.–What Does Your Mum Think (WDYMT) is a podcast for anyone out here trying to make their mum proud.Hosted by Sheps, designer, podcaster, martial arts practitioner and a lifelong believer that if your mum gets it, you’re doing something right.Each episode, Sheps sits down with inspiring people who are figuring it out in this mad world, talking to the humans behind the hustle, the passion and the journey.Stories from the heart that make mums proud.–Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/wdymt_official/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@whatdoesyourmumthinkSpotifyhttps://open.spotify.com/show/4UQ1fAYGya2gOpUlyXSaPk