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Mike Shema

About all things AppSec, DevOps, and DevSecOps. Hosted by Mike Shema and John Kinsella, the podcast focuses on helping its audience find and fix software flaws effectively.

  1. Scanner Results Are a Starting Point. Here's What Comes Next. - Federico Kirschbaum - ASW #386

    3 days ago

    Scanner Results Are a Starting Point. Here's What Comes Next. - Federico Kirschbaum - ASW #386

    Most AppSec teams are working through more findings than their teams can validate. SAST surfaces thousands of potential issues. DAST generates alert volume that outpaces triage capacity. Somewhere in that output are the vulnerabilities that matter, the ones that are actually exploitable in production. This conversation explores why automated testing often stops short of the hardest part of the job: proving what is real. We dig into how business logic flaws and authorization vulnerabilities get missed by tools that scan without reasoning, what exploit validation looks like at runtime, and how security engineers are shifting toward findings that developers will actually act on. The segment is sponsored by XBOW. Visit https://securityweekly.com/xbow to see how autonomous AI pentesting delivers expert-quality findings in hours with real exploit validation your team can actually act on. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-386

    1hr 16min
  2. BadHost, Dead CTFs, Exploding NPMs, and the Verizon DBIR - ASW #385

    2 Jun

    BadHost, Dead CTFs, Exploding NPMs, and the Verizon DBIR - ASW #385

    We dedicate an episode to catching up on appsec news with Kalyani Pawar. We see parsing problems that led to the BadHost vuln, which exposed lots of LLMs, MCPs, and agents to potential compromise. We wonder where to look for security education and practice as the camaraderie of the CTF community becomes infiltrated by LLMs. We talk about the tradeoffs in trust between using public packages vs. having agents write replacements from scratch. And we examine some of the appsec details that the Verizon DBIR reveals about how orgs are being attacked -- and how orgs might use that information to protect themselves. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-385

    45 min
  3. AppSec Conversations on Agents, LLMs, and OWASP from RSAC - Merritt Maxim, Scott Clinton, Janet Worthington - ASW #384

    26 May

    AppSec Conversations on Agents, LLMs, and OWASP from RSAC - Merritt Maxim, Scott Clinton, Janet Worthington - ASW #384

    We showcase recordings from this year's RSAC. At RSAC Conference 2026, Scott Clinton, Co-Chair and co-founder of the OWASP GenAI Security Project, shares insights from the project's latest research, including new landscape guides and evolving approaches to securing generative and agentic AI systems. The conversation explores critical gaps in GenAI data security, the rise of AI-assisted development, and the immense growth of the OWASP community and sponsor ecosystem. Looking ahead, he outlines the most urgent risks and priorities shaping AI and agentic security in 2026. Then Merritt Maxim discusses how AI is affecting Identity and Access Management. Expect to hear this topic a lot throughout 2026, especially as the industry tries to figure out what's different or special about securing agent identities. We close with a chat with Janet Worthington about the impact of agents on the SDLC and how orgs are updating their controls to deal with code generated by humans and LLMs alike. Segment Resources: https://genai.owasp.org https://genai.owasp.org/resources/ https://www.scworld.com/podcast-episode/3905-keeping-up-with-the-owasp-genai-project-scott-clinton-asw-381 This segment is sponsored by The OWASP GenAI Security Project. Visit https://securityweekly.com/owasp to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-384

    1 hr
  4. The State of AI & AppSec - Keith Hoodlet - ASW #383

    19 May

    The State of AI & AppSec - Keith Hoodlet - ASW #383

    This year has been a dichotomy of established secure design fundamentals and burgeoning chaos of LLM-driven vuln discovery. Keith Hoodlet returns to share his latest observations on what the recent news about Mythos, models, and harnesses means for appsec. He walks through the problems of misalignment, the potential development doom that looms behind a volume of vulns, and what modern code creation looks like. Along the way we touch on the economics of tokens and the principles behind secure software. Keith gave a preview of his upcoming presentation (May 22nd) on these topics. Check out https://securing.dev/about/ for the slides and more of his writing on appsec. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-383

    1hr 3min
  5. Why Basic Security Practices Still Work - Rob Allen - ASW #382

    12 May

    Why Basic Security Practices Still Work - Rob Allen - ASW #382

    If you have to ditch your entire appsec strategy because you expect 2026 to bring more vulns more quickly, then you probably didn't have a good strategy in the first place. Rob Allen shares how the mentality of "assume breach" doesn't have to be a defeatist attitude and can instead be a way to change a catastrophic breach into a more contained one. We also talk about proactive security and what an "avoid breach" attitude could look like, including how to apply the macro lessons of default deny and network isolation to writing secure code. Resources https://www.threatlocker.com/blog/the-claude-mythos-preview-proves-now-is-the-time-for-zero-trust?utmsource=cyberriskalliance&utmmedium=sponsor&utmcampaign=claudemythosaswq226&utmcontent=claudemythosasw-&utm_term=podcast https://www.threatlocker.com/capabilities/zero-trust-network-access?utmsource=cyberriskalliance&utmmedium=sponsor&utmcampaign=ztnaq226&utmcontent=ztna-&utm_term=podcast https://www.threatlocker.com/capabilities/zero-trust-cloud-access?utmsource=cyberriskalliance&utmmedium=sponsor&utmcampaign=ztcaq226&utmcontent=ztca-&utm_term=podcast This segment is sponsored by ThreatLocker. Visit https://securityweekly.com/threatlocker to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-382

    1hr 12min
  6. Keeping Up With the OWASP GenAI Project - Scott Clinton - ASW #381

    5 May

    Keeping Up With the OWASP GenAI Project - Scott Clinton - ASW #381

    Speed is the most common theme among developers and appsec teams working with LLMs and agents, from trying to keep up with patterns for deploying agents to dealing with more code faster to how the latest models impact code quality and security. The OWASP GenAI Project is helping organizations keep up with the speed of those changes and engaging the appsec community for sharing effective ways to keep systems secure. Scott Clinton shares the latest progress on the the project, its roadmap for the year, and how appsec practitioners can shape its future. Resources: https://genai.owasp.org/2026/04/28/finbot-ctf-is-live-a-hands-on-companion-to-the-owasp-genai-security-project/ https://genai.owasp.org/2025/01/22/announcing-the-owasp-gen-ai-red-teaming-guide/ https://www.scworld.com/podcast-episode/3695-inside-the-owasp-genai-security-project-steve-wilson-asw-352 This segment is sponsored by The OWASP GenAI Security Project. Visit https://securityweekly.com/owasp to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-381

    1hr 9min
  7. Top 10 Web Hacking Techniques of 2025 and a Hint for 2026 - James Kettle - ASW #380

    28 Apr

    Top 10 Web Hacking Techniques of 2025 and a Hint for 2026 - James Kettle - ASW #380

    Portswigger's list of web hacking techniques is a long-running celebration of curiosity and research from the web hacking community. James Kettle shares his thoughts on the entries from 2025 and how he expects LLMs and agents to influence what the list will look like for next year. He also shares some insights on using LLMs for his own blackbox research, giving us a peek into the work he'll be sharing at Black Hat USA this summer. Resources https://portswigger.net/research/top-10-web-hacking-techniques-of-2025 https://blackhat.com/us-26/briefings/schedule/index.html#can-ai-do-novel-security-research-meet-the-http-terminator-51894 Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-380

    45 min
  8. The Human Aspect of Red Teams - Brian Fox, Tom Tovar, T. Gwyddon 'Data' Owen - ASW #379

    21 Apr

    The Human Aspect of Red Teams - Brian Fox, Tom Tovar, T. Gwyddon 'Data' Owen - ASW #379

    Red team exercises set goals to see if a particular outcome can be accomplished through a simulated attack, but the ultimate outcome should be educating the org about how to improve tools and processes that make attacks more difficult to succeed. Gwyddon "Data" Owen shares his experience building a red team, creating an exercise, and leveraging the results to improve security. And while the adoption of LLMs will accelerate a red team's activities, there are still plenty of foundational security controls that orgs can establish that would require a red team to be more than just fast, but fast and very careful. Coding Agents Are Getting More Cautious, But Not Safer A new study finds that while frontier AI coding models are hallucinating less than they did a year ago, they still preserve a significant amount of avoidable software risk when left ungrounded. Sonatype's research shows that connecting these models to real-time software intelligence dramatically improves remediation quality and reduces critical and high-severity vulnerability exposure by 60–70%. The takeaway is clear: safer AI-assisted development will depend not just on better models, but on grounding them in accurate, current dependency and vulnerability data. This segment is sponsored by Sonatype. Read the study: https://securityweekly.com/sonatypersac How We Achieve Agentic Outcomes in CyberSecurity: The "Do-It-For-Me" Mobile Defense If you look at deepfakes, synthetic identity, social engineering, and new malware variants coming to market, it seems like attackers have a first-mover advantage in using AI. The volume and variety of threats are growing faster than the current cyber stack can address. Against this backdrop, organizations are moving away from "do-it-yourself" delivery models (more tools, more alerts, more headcount) to "do-it-for-me" agentic AI delivery models (using platforms that unify data, execute policy, and automate outcomes). The emphasis outside of cyber is on empowering the expert human-in-the-loop — so teams spend less time in the noise and more time delivering business outcomes. This segment explores how cybersecurity leaders can make the most of the AI Age, leveraging it for good while staying relevant amid the explosive AI adoption curve. This segment is sponsored by Appdome. Visit https://securityweekly.com/appdomersac to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-379

    1hr 13min
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