The People Dividend Podcast

Mike Horne, Ph.D

Welcome to The People Dividend Podcast, a platform where meaningful dialogues, diverse perspectives, and inspiring stories come together to redefine the world of human capital. Every week, we sit down with industry experts, thought leaders and innovative professionals across various sectors to discuss the most pressing issues concerning people and work. Our goal is to change the narrative of business, emphasizing that people are not just resources but the most valuable assets who drive growth, innovation, and success.

  1. Episode 105: Rethinking Success: The Case Against Traditional Metrics

    6 HR AGO

    Episode 105: Rethinking Success: The Case Against Traditional Metrics

    In this episode of The People Dividend Podcast, Mike Horne interviews Radhika Dutt, author of 'Radical Product Thinking'. They discuss the limitations of traditional success metrics like goals and OKRs, and how these can lead to performance theater rather than genuine progress. Radhika introduces the concept of puzzle setting as a more effective approach to measuring success and fostering innovation. She shares insights from her work with organizations, demonstrating how a focus on learning and problem-solving can lead to significant business improvements.   Key Points: Goals and targets can create performance theater. Metrics should be tools for insight, not evaluation yardsticks. Organizations can achieve better results without traditional goals and Radhika's methodology has dramatically transformed companies' performance.  Radhika emphasizes the importance of shifting from traditional goal-setting to a puzzle-solving mindset, which encourages teams to explore problems deeply and collaboratively, leading to more innovative solutions.   Links:  Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/,  LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/,  Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike     Learn More about Radhika Dutt: https://rdutt.com/  #peopledividendpodcast #podcastepisode #podcastrecommendations #RadicalProductThinking #Innovation #PerformanceTheater #PuzzleSolving #BusinessSuccess

    23 min
  2. Episode 104: The Role of HR in Organizational Growth

    3 FEB

    Episode 104: The Role of HR in Organizational Growth

    In this episode of The People Dividend Podcast, host Mike Horne and guest Andrew Bartlow discuss the complexities and challenges of scaling organizations, particularly through the lens of human resources. They explore the importance of clarity, adapting leadership styles, and the role of HR in driving organizational success. Bartlow emphasizes the need for strategic thinking in HR, focusing on aligning activities with business goals, and the significance of having a flexible plan for growth. The conversation also touches on lessons learned from past crises and the importance of understanding the unique context of each organization.   Key Points: Scaling organizations introduces exponential complexity, yet ensuring clarity and alignment are crucial for effective growth. Strategic HR involves deciding what impactful work to pursue and HR leaders should articulate key goals and initiatives. A flexible plan is vital for successful scaling and adapting leadership styles is essential as teams grow. The context of an organization as well as understanding the unique needs of an organization matters in HR practices. Lessons from past crises can inform current HR strategies. Focusing on the basics and proven strategies rather than chasing trends is best.    Links:  Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/,  LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/,  Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike     Learn More about Andrew Bartlow: https://www.seriesbconsulting.com/about-us  #peopledividendpodcast #podcastepisode #podcastrecommendations #ScalingSuccess #HRLeadership #BusinessGrowth #StrategicPlanning #OrganizationalDevelopment

    22 min
  3. Episode 103: The Power of Respect in Leadership

    27 JAN

    Episode 103: The Power of Respect in Leadership

    In this episode of The People Dividend Podcast, host Mike Horne speaks with John Guaspari, an expert in organizational effectiveness and employee engagement. They discuss the critical human factors that drive business success, including trust, respect, and engagement. John shares insights on common mistakes leaders make regarding employee engagement, the importance of respect in leadership, and the impact of remote work on workplace dynamics. He emphasizes the need for genuine communication and understanding in fostering a positive organizational culture.   Key Points: The number one mistake leaders make is starting with the wrong problem statement. Leadership is about getting people to want to do what you need them to do. Engagement is about discretionary effort, not just mechanical interactions. Surveys can be misleading; direct conversations are more effective. Understanding employees' needs is crucial for effective leadership, as well as prioritizing respect as a fundamental humanistic value in order to drive engagement. The shift to remote work has changed how we interact with colleagues, since casual interactions are harder in remote work settings. Simple gestures like saying hello can have a big impact.   Links:  Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/,  LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/,  Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike     Learn More about John Guaspari: https://www.johnguaspari.com/    #peopledividendpodcast #podcastepisode #podcastrecommendations #LeadershipInsights #EmployeeEngagement #RespectInTheWorkplace #OrganizationalCulture #HumanConnection

    23 min
  4. Episode 102: The Future of Work: Balancing Energy and Sustainability

    20 JAN

    Episode 102: The Future of Work: Balancing Energy and Sustainability

    In this episode of The People Dividend podcast, host Mike Horne speaks with workplace strategist Penny de Villiers about the future of work, focusing on the importance of redesigning workplaces to prioritize employee wellbeing and sustainable performance. Penny shares her personal journey from experiencing burnout to advocating for a healthier work environment. The conversation explores the current state of employee engagement, the consequences of neglecting wellbeing, and the role of managers in fostering a supportive workplace culture. They discuss the integration of technology in the workplace, the potential of the four-day work week, and practical steps managers can take to enhance their team's wellbeing and performance.   Key Points: Penny de Villiers emphasizes the importance of workplace wellbeing and explains that burnout can lead to significant personal and professional consequences. Organizations are beginning to measure employee wellbeing more seriously since investing in this correlates with higher profitability. Workplace redesign should focus on creating environments where people can thrive. The four-day work week is gaining traction as a viable option as technological integration in the workplace is increasingly alleviating mundane tasks for employees. Understanding team dynamics is essential for effective management, yet there is still a gap between leaders' words and their actions when it comes to prioritizing employee wellbeing.    Links:  Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/,  LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/,  Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike     Learn More about Penny de Villiers: https://pennydevilliers.com/about  #peopledividendpodcast #podcastepisode #podcastrecommendations #FutureOfWork #WorkplaceWellbeing #SustainablePerformance #Leadership #BurnoutRecovery

    22 min
  5. Episode 101: Empowering Women: The Connection Between Self-Worth and Net Worth

    13 JAN

    Episode 101: Empowering Women: The Connection Between Self-Worth and Net Worth

    In this episode of The People Dividend Podcast, host Mike Horne and Nancy Griffin explore the interconnected themes of self-worth, net worth, and legacy, particularly in the context of women's empowerment. Nancy shares her journey in advocating for financial independence, wellness, and philanthropy among women, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing health and the impact of generosity. The conversation delves into actionable steps for building a legacy and the significance of working with trusted advisors to navigate financial planning. Through personal anecdotes and insights, Nancy highlights the transformative power of philanthropy and the ripple effects it can create within communities.   Key Points: Self-worth and net worth are deeply connected. Women often bear a disproportionate amount of responsibility for family health and wellness, which are essential for being an asset to others. Generosity often returns benefits to the giver and can create a significant ripple effect in communities. Women are increasingly earning and inheriting wealth, creating opportunities for stewardship. Leadership involves empowering others to step into their strengths. Building a legacy starts with education and community involvement.   Links:  Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/,  LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/,  Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike     Learn More about Nancy Griffin: https://womenworthwellness.com/about-us/  #peopledividendpodcast #podcastepisode #podcastrecommendations #WomenEmpowerment #HealthAndWealth #Philanthropy #FinancialIndependence #LegacyPlanning

    15 min
  6. Episode 100: 2026 Trends: Unlocking the People Dividend in Leadership and Culture

    6 JAN

    Episode 100: 2026 Trends: Unlocking the People Dividend in Leadership and Culture

    In the inaugural episode of Season 10 of The People Dividend Podcast as well as the 100th episode of the show, host Mike Horne discusses the critical role of people in driving growth, innovation, and success. He emphasizes the importance of purpose-driven leadership, the shift from engagement to belonging, and the evolution of leadership development in a hybrid work environment. Mike calls for organizations to invest in their people and create cultures that foster thriving, innovation, and meaningful connections.   Key Points: People are the dividend that keeps paying off, as investing in people leads to greater organizational success. Purpose-driven leadership is essential in 2026 as employees increasingly demand leaders who create meaning and inspire action. Leadership development focuses on self-awareness and emotional agility. Ensuring psychological safety is crucial in creating belonging, which in turn enhances innovation and collaboration.   Links:  Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/,  LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/,  Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike   #peopledividendpodcast #podcastepisode #podcastrecommendations #PurposeDrivenLeadership #BelongingAtWork #LeadershipDevelopment

    10 min
  7. 30/12/2025

    Episode 099: Season 9 Unwrapped: Insights That Transform Leadership

    In this year-end episode, host Mike Horne reflects on the progress made in 2025 through The People Dividend podcast. He emphasizes the importance of trust, motivation, and the human element in organizations. Key themes from Season Nice include navigating digital life, fostering dynamic cultures, and the significance of equity and inclusion. As the year closes, Mike encourages everyone to invest in their people and to prepare for a purposeful 2026. Key Points: The People Dividend podcast has reached 226 episodes as it closes its 9th season. Host Mike Horne celebrates the growth of the community and the invaluable insights his guests have brought to the show over the past season. Some of the most important takeaways include: Trust and motivation are essential for workplace success. Connecting talent with purpose enhances impact. Creativity and humor strengthen team dynamics. People-centric strategies are crucial for delivering results. Investing in people unleashes extraordinary impact. Reflecting on meaningful change is vital for future growth.   Links:  Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/,  LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/,  Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike

    8 min
  8. 23/12/2025

    Episode 098: Cultural Influences on Leadership Styles

    In this episode of the People Dividend Podcast, host Mike Horne speaks with John Wang, author of 'Big Asian Energy' and an executive coach, about the journey to bold leadership and empowerment. They discuss the impact of cultural upbringing on leadership styles, the challenges posed by stereotypes, and the importance of embracing one's authentic self. John shares insights on building confidence, the power of vulnerability, and the significance of understanding cultural nuances in communication. The conversation emphasizes that leadership is not just about competence but also about warmth and connection.   Key Points: Leadership is about taking initiative and embracing your authentic self. Our cultural upbringing shapes our leadership perspectives and how we succumb to or overcome the negative effects of stereotypes. Understanding cultural nuances is crucial in communication and being an effective leader. John Wang's book 'Big Asian Energy' encourages individuals to own their strengths and challenge limiting beliefs about oneself. Self-doubt can be transformed through understanding personal patterns.   Links:  Learn more about Mike Horne on Linkedin Email Mike at mike@mike-horne.com Learn More About Executive and Organization Development with Mike Horne Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikehorneauthor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehorneauthor/,  LinkedIn Mike's Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6867258581922799617/,  Schedule a Discovery Call with Mike: https://calendly.com/mikehorne/15-minute-discovery-call-with-mike     Learn More about John Wang: https://www.bigasianenergy.com/about-john-wang

    21 min

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Welcome to The People Dividend Podcast, a platform where meaningful dialogues, diverse perspectives, and inspiring stories come together to redefine the world of human capital. Every week, we sit down with industry experts, thought leaders and innovative professionals across various sectors to discuss the most pressing issues concerning people and work. Our goal is to change the narrative of business, emphasizing that people are not just resources but the most valuable assets who drive growth, innovation, and success.