CDO Matters Podcast

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How can today’s Chief Data Officers help their organizations become more data-driven? Join former Gartner analyst Malcolm Hawker as he interviews on thought leaders on data fabrics, blockchain and more — and learns why they matter to today’s CDOs. If you want to dig deep into the CDO Matters that are top-of-mind for today’s Chief Data Officers, this show is for you.

  1. 18 hr ago

    Why Data Teams Are a Tax on the Business | CDO Matters Ep. 106

    Most data teams think they're too busy to slow down. The real problem is they're too busy taking orders to ever be seen as anything but a cost center. 📌 In this episode: The real difference between a "product owner" and a "product manager" and why most data teams are stuck playing the former Why Nick Zervoudis argues data democratization isn't automatically good, using a peanut-butter-aisle analogy for customer segmentation The vendor-funded origin story behind the entire "data literacy" movement traced back to a Qlik-commissioned report Nick's "shift left, shift right" framework for product thinking, and why you need both to serve human and AI-agent customers alike 💬 The takeaway: "If you run your organization as a service desk and an order taker, then you are a tax on the business." — Malcolm Hawker About the host + guest: Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Guest: Nick Zervoudis is a data product management consultant, trainer, and founder of Value from Data and AI. https://www.linkedin.com/in/nzervoudis/

  2. 4 Sept

    The Business Already Gets Governance — Data Leaders Just Aren't Listening | CDO Matters Ep. 105

    Executives at the World Economic Forum in Davos are asking for data governance but the data profession wasn't in the room to answer. The gap isn't the business's understanding. It's ours. 📌 In this episode: Why Donna Burbank found business leaders, not data teams, driving governance conversations at Davos this year The flip from "data literacy" to "business literacy" and why the old term is judgmental Donna's "Semantic Pedanticism Feedback Loop" and how jargon fights kill credibility in front of executives Why "assume positive intent" isn't enough on its own. You have to assume positive intelligence too 💬 The takeaway: "We tend to sit in our own little silo and say, how come the business isn't hearing us? Because we're talking to ourselves about others." — Donna Burbank About the host + guest: Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Guest: Donna Burbank is founder and managing director of Global Data Strategy, a firm focused on data strategy and hands-on implementation.

  3. 21 Aug

    Making Data AI-Ready with Knowledge Graphs | CDO Matters REPLAY

    Every CDO is being told to make their data AI-ready. What that actually requires is a harder conversation — and this episode gets into it. 📌 In this episode: Why vector embeddings alone aren't enough for enterprise AI — and what knowledge graphs provide that vectors fundamentally can't How the Semantic Web's original vision for open metadata standards maps directly to what CDOs are being asked to build for AI today Why knowledge graphs aren't as technically heavy a lift as most CDOs assume — and what a practical starting point looks like How MDM and knowledge graphs can work together to get CDOs beyond the 360-degree view they've been chasing for decades 💬 The takeaway: "The knowledge graph is kind of a translator between natural language and the data and by that, far more people can make use of the data and ask questions across different data silos." — Andreas Blumauer About the host and guest Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Andreas Blumauer is SVP Growth & Marketing at Graphwise and founder of the Semantic Web Company. 🔗 Watch + full transcript: [profisee.com/podcast/making-data-ai-ready-with-knowledge-graphs-summer-replay] Subscribe to CDO Matters Monthly → https://profisee.com/cdo-matters-community/#join-community Follow Malcolm on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/malhawker/ Guest → https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreasblumauer/

  4. 7 Aug

    Data as a Product | CDO Matters REPLAY

    Most CDOs talk about data products. Very few approach them the way a product manager would starting with customer need, validating demand, and building only what people will actually use. 📌 In this episode: Why scalability without proven demand is a bridge to nowhere and how CDOs fall into that trap constantly What "outside-in" product management looks like in a data function and why it changes everything about how you prioritize How Jonathan Reeve's team at BetaNext links financial data assets to create insights clients didn't know they needed Why influence and storytelling aren't soft skills for data leaders they're the job 💬 The takeaway: "You hold the keys to the kingdom. If you're managing data better, you've got the power to influence innovation, product direction, and where investment goes." — Jonathan Reeve About the host and guest Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Jonathan Reeve is Chief Product Officer at BetaNext, a financial services data company. 🔗 Watch + full transcript: profisee.com/podcast/data-as-a-product-summer-replay Subscribe to CDO Matters Monthly → https://profisee.com/cdo-matters-community/#join-community Follow Malcolm on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/malhawker/ Guest → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-reeve-5a62271/

  5. 24 Jul

    A State Court Ruling Just Changed the Game — Are CDOs Ready? | CDO Matters REPLAY

    A Delaware state court ruling rewrote the rules on corporate liability and CDOs are directly in the crosshairs. This is our most-played episode ever, and if you haven't heard it, now's your moment. 📌 In this episode: What the Delaware Chancery Court ruling means for data leaders and why fiduciary duty now extends to every corporate officer, not just the board and CEO Why bad data quality is no longer just an operational problem it's a legal and reputational one, with real personal liability attached Why AI is rapidly eliminating the "zone of ambiguity" that data leaders have operated in for decades Why aligning your data function closer to the CFO might be the smartest career move a CDO can make right now 💬 The takeaway: "Compliance and audit and regulatory risk drives a lot of investment in business. It always has. Don't be afraid of using this as a lever." — Malcolm Hawker About the host and guest Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Mark Stouse is CEO of Proof Analytics and a former Fortune 500 CMO with extensive experience as an expert witness in data-related litigation. 🔗 Watch + full transcript: [profisee.com/podcast/a-state-court-ruling-just-changed-the-game-are-cdos-ready-summer-replay] Subscribe to CDO Matters Monthly → https://profisee.com/cdo-matters-community/#join-community Follow Malcolm on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/malhawker/ Guest → https://www.linkedin.com/in/markstouse/

  6. 14 Jul

    Why 90% of Your Data Isn't AI-Ready | CDO Matters REPLAY

    Most CDOs are still measuring AI readiness with a BI-readiness checklist and it's costing them. 80 to 90 percent of enterprise data is unstructured, sitting outside every governance program built over the last three decades. 📌 In this episode: The split Malcolm calls "the world of measurement vs. the world of meaning" and why Gen AI lives entirely in the latter Why only 25% of the data feeding AI models today is actually governed (per Dresner Research) Why a product manager and a value engineer might matter more right now than any new governance policy Why the 30-year-old model of data ownership breaks down in an AI-driven world and what it needs to become instead 💬 The takeaway: "You get budgets of millions of dollars to solve this problem but every day we disempower ourselves by saying 'garbage in, garbage out.'" About the host: Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. This keynote was recorded live at the CDO Magazine CDO/CAO Summit. If you liked this episode: Check out "Beyond Data Catalogs: Building Context for AI and Data Products (Ep. 87)" Subscribe to CDO Matters Monthly → https://profisee.com/cdo-matters-community/#join-community Follow Malcolm on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/malhawker/

  7. 26 Jun

    The AI Portfolio Dilemma: Why Most Companies Can't Account for What They're Spending | CDO Matters Ep 104

    Most organizations are committing serious capital to AI and can't answer a basic question: how much are we actually spending, and on what? That accountability gap is about to close, whether data leaders are ready or not. 📌 In this episode: Why fewer than 5% of large companies can accurately track AI spend as a distinct category — and what happens when the CFO gets involved The Vane Loop framework: a quadrant-based approach to scoring data and AI investments on feasibility and impact across 70+ factors Why AI architecture decisions are now financial variables — and why most product managers aren't equipped to make them The strategic case for decommissioning: why building a library of reusable skills beats running 200 half-finished use cases 💬 The takeaway: "If you don't manage your costs, your costs will be managed for you." — Malcolm Hawker, Episode 104 About the host + guest: Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters on Substack, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Karl Ivo Sokolov is Managing Director at Specific Group Austria and co-author of Finance, Grade Data and AI Products. He sits on the US Institute of Management Accountants board and is the creator of the Vane Loop framework for AI portfolio steering.

  8. 12 Jun

    The Metadata Problem Nobody Talks About: Context, Catalogs, and the CDO's Next Land Grab | CDO Matters Ep. 103

    Every organization is told they need context for AI to work. Almost none of them know where to start. The answer has been sitting in their metadata all along — but most CDOs haven't connected those dots yet. 📌 In this episode: Why your data catalog is already a source of context — and how to expose it to agentic workflows today The semantic layer problem: definitions living in BI tools instead of governed catalogs, and why that creates risk Why engineers and library scientists think about language completely differently — and why that gap matters for AI Malcolm's argument that CDOs are in a unique position to make a "land grab" on unstructured data before someone else does 💬 The takeaway: "CDOs are in a unique position to make a land grab: the ontologists, the taxonomists, the library scientists are all over the organization without one single leader. That's your moment." — Malcolm Hawker About the host + guest: Malcolm Hawker is a former Gartner analyst, Chief Data Officer at Profisee, Editor-in-Chief of CDO Matters, and host of the CDO Matters Podcast. Ole Olesen-Bagneux is Chief Evangelist at Actian and O'Reilly author of Fundamentals of Metadata Management (2025) and The Enterprise Data Catalog (2023) — the practitioner's reference for anyone building or governing a data catalog. Subscribe to CDO Matters Monthly → https://profisee.com/cdo-matters-community/#join-community Follow Malcolm on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/malhawker/ Guest Ole Olesen-Bagneux → https://www.linkedin.com/in/ole-olesen-bagneux/

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How can today’s Chief Data Officers help their organizations become more data-driven? Join former Gartner analyst Malcolm Hawker as he interviews on thought leaders on data fabrics, blockchain and more — and learns why they matter to today’s CDOs. If you want to dig deep into the CDO Matters that are top-of-mind for today’s Chief Data Officers, this show is for you.

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