HR & Payroll 2.0

Join Pete A. Tiliakos and Julie Fernandez as they combine their unique HR and payroll industry knowledge, experience, and POV’s for highly authentic conversations that unpack the key trends, challenges, and opportunities facing HR and Payroll leaders today! Powered ad-free by G-P, OneSource Virtual, and Zoho.

  1. Payroll Diplomacy with Special Guest Katharine Smith

    9 hr ago

    Payroll Diplomacy with Special Guest Katharine Smith

    On this episode, Pete and Julie welcome Katharine ‘Kat’ Smith, an Australian payroll leader and one of the emerging voices behind the idea of ‘payroll diplomacy’, for a thoughtful conversation on advocacy, literacy, risk, and the evolving role of payroll in the enterprise. The conversation explores ‘payroll diplomacy’: the skill of translating payroll’s operational complexity into language that executives, HR, finance, recruiters, and business leaders can understand. She shares why it’s all about influence, storytelling, community, and building the language needed to make payroll’s value visible. The group explores why payroll needs stronger advocacy, why literacy is still one of the profession’s biggest gaps, and how leaders can move beyond fear-based messaging to tell better stories about risk, compliance, records, employee experience, and business value.   They also dig into the growing pressure on payroll professionals in markets like Australia, where compliance complexity, recordkeeping expectations, and potential criminal liability are raising the stakes.  Plus, how to build payroll foundations from the ground up, with governance and controls to documentation, employee experience, and trust. Connect with Katharine on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smithkatharine/ Connect with the show: LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 X: @HRPayroll2_0  X: @PeteTiliakos  X: @JulieFer_HR BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0  WRKDefined Podcast Network: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/hr-payroll-20  Thank you to our marquee sponsors for powering the HR & Payroll 2.0 podcast forward!  G-P ‘Globalization Partners’: https://www.globalization-partners.com/ OneSource Virtual: https://hubs.ly/Q03YFNR90 Zoho: https://www.zoho.com/press.html Thank you to our ‘wizard behind the curtain’ and show producer Ryan Kielma: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-kielma/

    33 min
  2. Live from World at Work Total Rewards 2026 with Special Guest Kristy Durst

    25 Jun

    Live from World at Work Total Rewards 2026 with Special Guest Kristy Durst

    In this special episode, Julie is joined by Kristy Durst, Sr. Manager of Payroll & HR Administration at Uline, live from the annual World at Work Total Rewards event in San Antonio, TX, for a practitioner conversation grounded in what modern payroll leadership really looks like inside a complex, frontline-heavy business. The conversation explores Uline’s move from ADP to the full Workday suite, what it means to optimize a platform after go-live, and why payroll’s value increases when leaders stop treating it as a back-office process and start bringing it into decisions earlier.   Julie and Kristy also dig into the realities of running payroll for a workforce of nearly 10,000 employees across the U.S., Mexico, and Canada, including the importance of local timekeepers, shared services, compliance ownership, paid sick leave complexity, tax accountability, employee self-service, and the trust that comes from getting pay right. Kristy offers a clear view into the controls, data, judgment, and cross-functional collaboration required to make payroll work at scale.   The conversation looks ahead to the future of payroll talent and technology, from AI adoption and Workday optimization to succession planning, cross-training, and the changing skills payroll leaders need next.  Connect with Kristy:  LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristy-durst-54a0a2b3/ Connect with the show: LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 X: @HRPayroll2_0  X: @PeteTiliakos  X: @JulieFer_HR BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0  WRKDefined Podcast Network: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/hr-payroll-20  Thank you to our marquee sponsors for powering the HR & Payroll 2.0 podcast forward!  G-P ‘Globalization Partners’: https://www.globalization-partners.com/  OneSource Virtual: https://hubs.ly/Q03YFNR90 Zoho: https://www.zoho.com/press.html Thank you to our ‘wizard behind the curtain’ and show producer Ryan Kielma: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-kielma/

    49 min
  3. Live from World at Work Total Rewards 2026 with Special Guest Amy Dufrane

    23 Jun

    Live from World at Work Total Rewards 2026 with Special Guest Amy Dufrane

    In this special episode, Pete and Julie are joined by Amy Dufrane Ed.D, CEO of the HRCI (HR Certification Institute), live from the annual World at Work Total Rewards event in San Antonio, TX!  Amy shares how HRCI is evolving beyond certification to become a broader career partner for HR professionals, including its global work around HR standards, its collaboration with WorldatWork, and its role in helping practitioners navigate a profession being reshaped by technology, AI, and rising business expectations. The discussion explores why payroll deserves deeper strategic integration with HR and the business, how AI is changing learning needs across the profession, and why credentials still matter in an era where access to information is becoming more democratized. Amy also highlights the growing importance of organizational design, job redesign, change management, and technology upskilling as HR leaders work to build the capabilities required for what comes next. The group also digs into the talent pipeline challenge facing HR and payroll, including how early-career credentialing, university partnerships, and even high school exposure can help bring the next generation into the profession sooner. Connect with Amy and the HRCI: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amydufrane/ HRCI: https://www.hrci.org/home Connect with the show: LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 X: @HRPayroll2_0  X: @PeteTiliakos  X: @JulieFer_HR BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0  WRKDefined Podcast Network: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/hr-payroll-20  Thank you to our marquee sponsors for powering the HR & Payroll 2.0 podcast forward!  G-P ‘Globalization Partners’: https://www.globalization-partners.com/  OneSource Virtual: https://hubs.ly/Q03YFNR90 Zoho: https://www.zoho.com/press.html Thank you to our ‘wizard behind the curtain’ and show producer Ryan Kielma: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-kielma/

    31 min
  4. Live from World at Work Total Rewards 2026 with Special Guests Chelsea Hamilton & Sam Thomeier

    18 Jun

    Live from World at Work Total Rewards 2026 with Special Guests Chelsea Hamilton & Sam Thomeier

    In this special episode, Pete and Julie are joined by Chelsea Hamilton and Sam Thomeier, live from the annual World at Work Total Rewards event in San Antonio, TX!  Chelsea and Sam unpack why pay transparency remains one of the biggest issues facing total rewards leaders, and why the shift is being driven by more than legislation. From generational expectations and candidate behavior to the long-standing culture of secrecy around pay, the conversation explores why employers can no longer afford to treat compensation as a closed-door topic.   The discussion also gets practical, covering why compensation structure is never truly “done,” how organizations should approach change management before communicating pay philosophy, and why salary ranges only work when managers understand how to explain them.  Chelsea and Sam also dig into the risks and opportunities of AI in compensation, including job-matching tools, salary benchmarking, employee use of AI, and the danger of relying on noisy or biased data. Plus, why getting compensation “right” is not just about market data or compliance.   Connect with Sam & Chelsea: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-thomeier-2898537/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelsea-hamilton-shrm-cp/ https://herronpalmer.com/ Connect with the show: LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 X: @HRPayroll2_0  X: @PeteTiliakos  X: @JulieFer_HR BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0  WRKDefined Podcast Network: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/hr-payroll-20  Thank you to our marquee sponsors for powering the HR & Payroll 2.0 podcast forward!  G-P ‘Globalization Partners’: https://www.globalization-partners.com/  OneSource Virtual: https://hubs.ly/Q03YFNR90 Zoho: https://www.zoho.com/press.html Thank you to our ‘wizard behind the curtain’ and show producer Ryan Kielma: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-kielma/

    44 min
  5. Live from World at Work Total Rewards 2026 with Special Guest Sarah Severson

    16 Jun

    Live from World at Work Total Rewards 2026 with Special Guest Sarah Severson

    In this special episode, Pete and Julie are joined by Sarah Severson, Sr. Manager of Compensation at Medline, live from the annual World at Work Total Rewards event in San Antonio, TX, for a practical conversation on how compensation is evolving inside fast-growing, complex organizations. The conversation explores what happens when family-owned and high-growth companies scale faster than their compensation structures, why job architecture becomes a critical foundation for everything downstream, and how M&A, global expansion, and Workday implementations expose the need for common language, cleaner data, and stronger governance.   Pete, Julie, and Sarah talk the practical side of AI in compensation, from using Copilot for Excel and manager communications to experimenting with AI-assisted job grading and market cleanup. Sarah offers a grounded practitioner view on where AI can accelerate work, where human judgment still matters, and why compensation teams must balance innovation with governance, transparency, and manager enablement.   Plus, a candid look at the realities of modernizing compensation in a growing enterprise, and why the future of comp is not just about better data, but better decisions, better communication, and stronger alignment across the business. Connect with Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-severson-6498ba1b/ Connect with the show: LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 X: @HRPayroll2_0  X: @PeteTiliakos  X: @JulieFer_HR BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0  WRKDefined Podcast Network: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/hr-payroll-20  Thank you to our marquee sponsors for powering the HR & Payroll 2.0 podcast forward!  G-P ‘Globalization Partners’: https://www.globalization-partners.com/  OneSource Virtual: https://hubs.ly/Q03YFNR90 Zoho: https://www.zoho.com/press.html Thank you to our ‘wizard behind the curtain’ and show producer Ryan Kielma: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-kielma/

    35 min
  6. Live from World at Work Total Rewards 2026 with Special Guest Joe Ranzau

    11 Jun

    Live from World at Work Total Rewards 2026 with Special Guest Joe Ranzau

    In this special episode, Pete and Julie are joined by Joe Ranzau, Partner at Grant Thornton, live from the annual World at Work Total Rewards event in San Antonio, TX. Joe brings a CFO-facing lens to the discussion, unpacking why finance, HR, risk, and tax all see payroll differently and why the reporting line may matter less than the governance model around it. The conversation explores payroll’s evolving strategic value, the persistent disconnect between HR and payroll, and why payroll professionals must become stronger storytellers, translators, and change agents. Together they explore where payroll really belongs, why it remains one of the most misunderstood functions in the enterprise, and how AI is forcing leaders to rethink process, risk, and governance. The episode also dives into AI’s growing role in HR and payroll, from productivity gains and hard-to-measure ROI to procurement restrictions, shadow AI, data safety, and adoption resistance across the workforce. Plus a practical look at what it takes to modernize payroll: clearer ownership, stronger governance, better cross-functional alignment, and a willingness to treat payroll as far more than a back-office process. Connect with Joe:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-ranzau/   Connect with the show: LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 X: @HRPayroll2_0  X: @PeteTiliakos  X: @JulieFer_HR BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0  WRKDefined Podcast Network: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/hr-payroll-20  Thank you to our marquee sponsors for powering the HR & Payroll 2.0 podcast forward!  G-P ‘Globalization Partners’: https://www.globalization-partners.com/  OneSource Virtual: https://hubs.ly/Q03YFNR90 Zoho: https://www.zoho.com/press.html Thank you to our ‘wizard behind the curtain’ and show producer Ryan Kielma: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-kielma/

    46 min

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Join Pete A. Tiliakos and Julie Fernandez as they combine their unique HR and payroll industry knowledge, experience, and POV’s for highly authentic conversations that unpack the key trends, challenges, and opportunities facing HR and Payroll leaders today! Powered ad-free by G-P, OneSource Virtual, and Zoho.

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