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    A CIA Psychologist on the Minds of World Leaders, Pt. 1 with Dr. Ursula Wilder

    A CIA Psychologist on the Minds of World Leaders, Pt. 1 with Dr. Ursula Wilder

    Summary
    Dr. Ursula Wilder (LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the intersections between psychology and intelligence. Ursula is a clinical psychologist with over two decades of experience working at the Central Intelligence Agency. 

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    How psychology can be useful to national security

    Historical examples of leadership analysis 

    Leadership personality assessments & the Cuban Missile Crisis

    Psychoanalytic theory and espionage 

    Reflections

    Human nature throughout history

    History repeating itself 

    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    “Together, these documents are quite powerful. The psych assessments are very, very carefully, tightly held and are classified at a high level. Every intelligence officer has this fantasy about seeing the file that's kept on them by the opponents.”

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *SpyCasts*


    Agent of Betrayal, FBI Spy Robert Hanssen with CBS’ Major Garrett and Friends (2023)


    The North Korean Defector with Former DPRK Agent Kim, Hyun Woo (2023)


    SPY@20 – “The Spy of the Century” with Curators Alexis and Andrew on Kim Philby (2022)


    “How Spies Think” – 10 Lessons in Intelligence with Sir David Omand (2020)

    *Beginner Resources*


    What is Psychoanalysis? Institute of Psychoanalysis, YouTube (2011) [3 min. video]


    Psychologists in the CIA, American Psychological Association (2002) [Short article]


    7 Reasons to Study Psychology, University of Toronto (n.d.) [Short article]

    DEEPER DIVE
    Books


    Freud and Beyond, S. A. Mitchell (Basic Books, 2016)


    Narcissism and Politics: Dreams of Glory, J. M. Post (Cambridge University Press, 2014)


    The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements, E. Hoffer (Harper Perennial Modern Classics, 2010) 


    Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln, D. K. Goodwin (Simon & Schuster, 2004)


    Leaders, Fools, and Impostors: Essays on the Psychology of Leadership, M. F. R. Kets de Vries (iUniverse, 2003) 

    Primary Sources 


    Charles de Gaulle to Pamela Digby Churchill (1942) 


    Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat (1940)


    Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant (1885)


    Gettysburg Address (1863) 


    House Divided Speech (1858)


    Excerpt on Cleopatra from Plutarch's Life of Julius Caesar (ca. 2nd century AD)


    Plutarch’s The Life of Alexander (ca. 2nd century AD) 

    Appian’s The Civil Wars (ca. 2nd century AD) 


    Virgil’s The Aeneid (19 B.C.E) 

    *Wildcard Resource*


    On Dreams by Sigmund Freud (1901)

    In this simplified version of the father of psychoanalysis’ seminal book The Interpretation of Dreams, you can get a small taste for Freudian philosophy. Freud believed that dreams were a reflection of the subconscious mind and that studying a person’s dreams can elucidate their inner wants and needs. What are your dreams telling you? 

    • 1 hr 13 min
    CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta

    CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta

    Summary
    Leon Panetta (Panetta Institute) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his lifetime of American public service. Secretary Panetta was the 2023 recipient of SPY’s William H. Webster Award. 

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    Directing the Central Intelligence Agency

    Intelligence & the Abbottabad Raid

    Working within the Clinton Administration 

    A life’s dedication to the safety of the American public

    Reflections

    The power of patience and the ability to listen

    Handing immense pressure and responsibility

    And much, much more …

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *SpyCasts*


    My Life in American Intelligence with Barry Zulauf (2023)


    David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence with the former CIA Director & 4* General (2023)


    Intelligence, Special Operations, and Strategy with Michael Vickers (2023)


    The 75th Anniversary of the CIA with former Director Robert Gates (2022)

    *Beginner Resources*


    What Does the Secretary of Defense Do? MasterClass (2022) [Short article]


    How did the US find and kill Osama bin Laden? 60 Minutes Australia, YouTube (2018) [4 min. video]


    Leon E. Panetta, Panetta Institute for Public Policy (n.d.) [Short biography]

    DEEPER DIVE
    Books


    The Spymasters: How the CIA Directors Shape History and the Future, C. Whipple (Scribner, 2021)


    The Gatekeepers: How the White House Chiefs of Staff Define Every Presidency, C. Whipple (Crown, 2018) 


    Worthy Fights: A Memoir of Leadership in War and Peace, L. Panetta & J. Newton (Penguin Books, 2014)


    SECDEF: The Nearly Impossible Job of Secretary of Defense, C. A. Stevenson (Potomac Books, 2007) 

    Primary Sources 


    Statement on Syria before the Senate Armed Services Committee (2012)


    Nomination of Hon. Leon E. Panetta to be Secretary of Defense (2011) 


    Statement to Employees by CIA Director Leon Panetta on the Death of Usama Bin Ladin (2011) 


    Nomination of Leon Panetta to be Director, Central Intelligence Agency (2009)


    Memorandum for Leon Panetta on POTUS’ Time Investment (1996)


    Letter from Brown to Panetta Regarding Fiscal Year 1994-1997 (1993)


    Letter to the Honorable Leon E. Panetta from George Bush (1977)

    *Wildcard Resource*

    Secretary Panetta now lives on a lovely vineyard in sunny California. Speaking of wine and spies, check out Vint Hill Winery in Warrenton, Virginia. 

    In 1942 the US Army set up top-secret SIGINT operations at the now-vineyard after the farm’s owner, a Ham Radio enthusiast, set up a wire on the roof of the barn that could reach signals from Berlin. The farm was the site of The Signal Corps cryptographic school, which famously intercepted messages from Hiroshi Oshima in 1943. 

    • 1 hr 19 min
    “The British Monarchy and Secret Intelligence” with Rory Cormac and Richard Aldrich

    “The British Monarchy and Secret Intelligence” with Rory Cormac and Richard Aldrich

    Summary
    Rory Cormac (X) and Richard Aldrich join Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss intelligence and the British Monarchy. The links between the royals and espionage prove the Crown to be far more than just a figurehead.  

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    Prince William’s internship with British Intelligence

    How Elizabeth II knew perhaps more secrets that anyone else in history

    King Charles' love of intelligence  

    Queen Victoria as Spymaster

    MI5, MI6, and the Diana conspiracies

    Reflections

    Secrets within secrets 

    Power and knowledge

    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
     ”What struck me the most was how much access Queen Elizabeth II had, how much she knew … And I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that she probably knew more state secrets than any human being who has ever walked the history of the earth, because she had access to everything for 70 odd years.” – Rory Cormac 

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *Spotlight Resource*

    Crown, Cloak, and Dagger: The British Monarchy and Secret Intelligence from Victoria to Elizabeth II, R. Cormac & R. J. Aldrich (Georgetown University Press, 2023) 
    *SpyCasts*


    Rise of Devils: The Origins of Modern Terrorism with James Crossland (2024)


    British Defence Attaché, U.S.A. with Rear Admiral Tim Woods (2023)


    St. Ermin’s Hotel, London: The History of a Legendary Spy Site with Stephen Duffy (2023) 


    Espionage and the Two Queens with Kent Tiernan (2023)

    *Beginner Resources*


    UK Royal Family: What does the King do? Jennifer Clarke, BBC (2024) [Short article]


    An Average Day in the Life of Queen Elizabeth II, The Infographics Show, YouTube (2020) [9 min. video]


    Kings and Queens of England & Britain, Ben Johnson, Historic UK (n.d.) [Brief bios of all Monarchs]

    DEEPER DIVE
    Primary Sources 


    Operation Paget Report (2006)


    CIA Confirms Official Met With LaRouche (1984)


    Anthony Blunt, 75, Dies; Was Soviet Spy in Britain (1983)


    More Cloak Than Dagger – An 18th Century Spy (1965)


    The Queen Delivering her speech to the House of Lords (1838)


    Popay the Spy Political Cartoon (1833) 

    *Wildcard Resource*

    Have a sweet tooth? So did many queens. Several delectable desserts have been named by or for British royals. Try these recipes: 


    Victoria Sponge, named for Queen Victoria’s favorite afternoon tea accompaniment


    Charlotte Cake, supposedly named after Queen Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz


    Queen Elizabeth Cake, first published in the 1953 Coronation Cook Book and served at Elizabeth II’s coronation 

    • 1 hr 12 min
    From the Vault: 70th Anniversary of James Bond - with Alexis Albion

    From the Vault: 70th Anniversary of James Bond - with Alexis Albion

    Summary
    Curators Alexis (LinkedIn) and Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) use James Bond artifacts in SPY’s collection to discuss all things 007. This year marks the 70th anniversary of the first Ian Fleming novel, Casino Royale. 

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    Bond vs. Real Life Spies

    The birth of James Bond 

    Ian Fleming’s intelligence past

    Bond and MI6

    Reflections

    What makes a character timeless?

    Pop culture mirroring real life

    And much, much more …
    *FULL SHOWNOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*

    Episode Notes
    This week on SpyCast, curators Andrew and Alexis join forces to put the past 70 years of Bond into historical perspective. To help frame their conversation, our collections team brought out a fantastic selection of Bond artifacts for Andrew and Alexis to interact with during the recording of this episode. 

    Quotes of the Week
    “I think in general the spy genre always has to have one foot, often two, in the real world. It's part of what makes that genre appealing and not science fiction. It takes place in the real world. And whether that is, you know, some of the technology or real-world threats, it has to be relatable and recognizable in that sense.” – Alexis Albion.
    *FULL SHOWNOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*
    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *SpyCast’s*


    Espionage and the Two Queens with Kent Tiernan (2023)


    Secrets Revealed with Curators Alexis and Andrew on SPY’s Pop-Up Exhibit (2023)


    CIA Officers Turned Authors with David McCloskey and James Stejskal (2022)


    The Spy of the Century with Curators Alexis and Andrew on Kim Philby (2022)


    My Life Looking at Spies and the Media with Paul Lashmar (2022)


    *Beginner Resources*


    MI6 History & Facts, Encyclopedia Britannica (2022) [Brief history of MI6]


    The Evolution of James Bond, Fandom Entertainment, YouTube (2021) [15 min. video]


    Ian Fleming, Famous Authors (n.d.) [Short biography]

    *FULL SHOWNOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*


    Primary Sources 


    Primos Bionic Eye, Collection of the International Spy Museum (2021)


    James Bond’s Omega Seamaster Diver 300M Watch, Collection of the International Spy Museum (2021) 


    007 Fragrance Commercial, YouTube (1965)


    James Bond Action Pak Toy Commercial, American Character, YouTube (1964)


    Aston Martin DB5, Collection of the International Spy Museum (1964)


    The Zimmermann Telegram, National Archives (1917) 


    *Wildcard Resource*
    Everyone has a favorite James Bond theme song. If you just can’t choose just one, check out The Ultimate James Bond Medley – A production from Alchemistic Records featuring all 25 Bond songs.  
    *FULL SHOWNOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Australian National Day Special: “Intelligence Down Under with John Blaxland”

    Australian National Day Special: “Intelligence Down Under with John Blaxland”

    Summary
    John Blaxland (Twitter, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss intelligence in Australia and Oceania. John is a widely recognized as a leading expert in this area. 
    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence
    -Australia’s Intelligence Community 
    -SIGINT in Australia during WWII 
    -Australia’s relationship with South Asia
    -The Pine Gap facility 
    Reflections
    -The implications of geography
    -The power of collaboration
    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    “The shift from the analog to the digital world … The shift for digital espionage, digital footprint management. How do you hide in the noise? How do you cover your identity? How do you protect your identity? … The digital revolution has actually enabled states to exercise a lot more power, a lot more control, a lot more monitoring, a lot more surveillance, a lot more interference.” – John Blaxland.

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *Spotlight Resource*
    -Revealing Secrets: An unofficial history of Australian Signals intelligence and the advent of cyber, C. Birgin & J. Blaxland (University of New South Wales Press, 2023)
    *SpyCasts*
    -SPY CHIEFS: Director-General of Security Mike Burgess - ASIO, Australia & America (2022)
    -Keeping Secrets/Disclosing Secrets with Spy Chief turned DG of Australia’s National Archives David Fricker (2022)
    -Desperately, Madly in Love – Brett Peppler and the Australian IC (2021)
    *Beginner Resources*
    -East Timor Independence: a short history of a long and brutal struggle, Guardian Australia, YouTube (2019) [4 min. video]
    -Our Agencies, National Intelligence Community of Australia (n.d.) [Overview of each agency in the Australian IC]
    -What is signals intelligence?, BAE Systems (n.d.) [Short article]
    DEEPER DIVE
    Books
    -Spies & Sparrows: ASIO & the Cold War, P. Deery (Melbourne University Press, 2022)
    -Australia's First Spies: The Remarkable Story of Australia's Intelligence Operations, 1901-45, J. Fahey (Allen & Unwin, 2019)
    -The Official History of ASIO – 3 Volumes, D. Horner, J. Blaxland, R. Crawley (Allen & Unwin, 2014/2015/2016)
    Primary Sources 
    -United Nations Resolution 1272 (1999)
    -United Nations Resolution 1264 (1999) 
    -Five Power Defence Arrangements (1971) 
    -Agreement between the Government of the Commonwealth of Australia and the Government of the United States of America relating to the Establishment of a Joint Defence Space Research Facility (1966) 
    -6 Wireless Unit signal sighting of Allied shipping (1945) 
    -Role and effectiveness of Signals Intelligence in World War II (1945)
    -Four Rotor Enigma Machine, Collection of the International Spy Museum (1943-1944) 
    *Wildcard Resource*
    -Pine Gap 
    A TV show about the top-secret satellite surveillance base of the same name. If you’ve seen it, you know it all about Australian Intelligence. Just kidding. But it’s a good watch! 

    • 1 hr 8 min
    Rise of Devils: The Origins of Modern Terrorism with James Crossland

    Rise of Devils: The Origins of Modern Terrorism with James Crossland

    Summary
    James Crossland (Twitter) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss the origins of modern terrorism. James is an expert on terrorism, intelligence, and propaganda.

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence
    -The origins of modern terrorism 
    -19th century spymasters 
    -Covert action and assassinations
    -Intelligence as a weapon
    Reflections
    -Philosophy and ideology’s effect on history
    -The power of fear
    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    “These waves of repression that feed into discontent and create more radical strains of discontent, that is a process that's really observable during this period. The reason why I think this is the first real age of terrorism is because you have all this stuff coming together: Communications that you need to promote terrorist activities to gain the attention you need, societal discontent, dangerous ideas … and it's all moving around together as part of the same process.” – James Crossland. 

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *Spotlight Resource* 
    -The Rise of Devils: Fear and the Origins of Modern Terrorism, J. Crossland (Manchester University Press, 2023) 
    *SpyCasts*
    -Venice’s Secret Service with Ioanna Iordanou (2023)
    -St. Ermin’s Hotel, London – The History of a Legendary Spy Site, with Stephen Duffy (2023)
    -Espionage and the Two Queens with Kent Tiernan (2023)
    -The Lion and the Fox – Civil War Spy vs. Spy with Alexander Rose (2023)
    *Beginner Resources*
    -Terrorism, J. P. Jenkins, Encyclopaedia Brittanica (2023) [Short article / definition]
    -What Were The Most Important Events of the 19th Century?, C. Seaver, History Defined (2022) [Short article]
    -Marxism in Under 5 Minutes, Theory in 5, YouTube (2020) [3 min. video] 
    DEEPER DIVE
    Books
    -Sofia Perovskaya, Terrorist Princess: The Plot to Kill Tsar Alexander II and the Woman Who Led It, R. R. Riggs (Global Harmony Press Inc., 2018)
    -The Pursuit of Power: Europe 1815-1914, R. J. Evans (Penguin Books, 2017) 
    -Blood and Rage: A Cultural History of Terrorism, M. Burleigh (Harper, 2009)
    Primary Sources 
    -The assassination, who is responsible? (1901) 
    -New York Times “Empress of Austria Slain” Article (1898) 
    -New York Times “War On Terrorism” Article (1881)
    -La vérité sur Orsini (1872) [The Truth about Orsini]
    -Manifesto of the Paris Commune (1871) 
    -The Revolutionary Catechism (1869) 
    -On the Fenian Prisoners in Manchester (1867)
    -Procès de Orsini (1858) [The Trial of Orsini]
    *Wildcard Resource*
    -You may have already read his classic play Crime and Punishment, but have you read Dostoevsky’s The Idiot (1869)? 
    This novel is known as Dostoevsky’s most personal work, a story that clearly shows the threads of his own life experiences during 19th century Russia. The novel explores many of the same questions of philosophy and politics explored in this episode of SpyCast. 

    • 1 hr 16 min

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