The Space Between Two Lines

Alex Saunders
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Welcome to The Space Between Two Lines, hosted by Alex Saunders. This is a podcast dedicated to honest conversations about the realities of fertility loss and the journey to parenthood. This is a space for real and raw discussions with everyday people, sharing stories that often go unheard, providing connection, community, and validation.

  1. 6 days ago

    Silent Endometriosis & Infertility: Bec’s Journey Through IUI and IVF

    In this deeply moving and educational episode, Alex sits down with Bec, a Sydney-based tech professional, to uncover the reality of navigating "unexplained" infertility, failed clinical treatments, and the life-changing power of patient self-advocacy. After stopping the pill in 2023 with regular, textbook cycles, Bec naively believed pregnancy would happen quickly. Instead, she and her partner faced consecutive heartbreaks: two unsuccessful intrauterine insemination (IUI) cycles and two devastating back-to-back IVF rounds that yielded only one egg each and zero fertilization. Confronted by one of Sydney's top clinics with a suggested shift to donor eggs and the message that they had no more options, Bec listened to her gut and sought a second opinion.   This pivotal second opinion led to an extraordinary transition from a rigid "black-and-white" clinical model to a holistic, highly individualized 18-month care framework. Through laparoscopic surgery and advanced testing, Bec finally received the validation and answers she was looking for.   Whether you are currently in the thick of the "space between two lines," weighing a second opinion, or searching for answers of your own, Bec's story is an empowering reminder that there is hope when you take control of your healthcare.   Please take a moment to subscribe, rate, and follow The Space Between Two Lines on Spotify or your favorite podcast app. Your support helps make sure no one has to walk this path alone. Share Your Story: If you would like to register to share your own fertility or pregnancy journey on the podcast, please visit our website: https://www.twolines.space/register

    Silent Endometriosis & Infertility: Bec’s Journey Through IUI and IVF

  2. 3 Sept

    12 Years of Infertility, Stage 4 Endometriosis & 7 IVF Egg Collections: Jess’s Story

    In this incredibly raw and empowering episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex sits down with Jess Goode, a 35-year-old who has spent a staggering 12 years navigating the emotional and physical trenches of unexplained infertility. From being dismissed by doctors as a teenager to facing severe medical weight bias, Jess’s journey is a profound testament to the power of a patient’s intuition.   After undergoing four endometriosis surgeries, surviving a life-threatening bout of Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome (OHSS), and navigating the heartbreak of a chemical pregnancy, Jess shares how she refused to accept defeat—even when clinics told her to give up and look for an egg donor. Now in the middle of a natural frozen embryo transfer cycle, Jess provides an invaluable roadmap for anyone learning to find their voice, question their specialists, and advocate for their own body.   We invite you to listen to this incredibly moving and educational conversation about what it means to hold onto hope when the odds are stacked against you. Jess’s fierce determination to never quit is an essential listen for anyone currently navigating the trials of assisted reproduction.   🎧 Listen to the full episode now and make sure to follow The Space Between Two Lines so you never miss these vital stories of resilience, loss, and survival. Share Your Story: If you would like to register to share your own fertility or pregnancy journey on the podcast, please visit our website: https://www.twolines.space/register

    12 Years of Infertility, Stage 4 Endometriosis & 7 IVF Egg Collections: Jess’s Story

  3. 27 Aug

    Abbey on Recurrent Pregnancy Loss, Two Failed IVF Cycles and Holding Onto Hope 🤍

    In this deeply moving and educational episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex sits down with Abbey, a 36-year-old married mother of two who has spent the last four years navigating the complex and often isolating path of secondary infertility. After easily conceiving her first two daughters just a year apart, Abby was blindsided by the trauma of three consecutive late missed miscarriages, a chemical pregnancy, and the emotional attrition of IVF. Now an active fertility and grief coach, Abby shares a rare look into her current pregnancy: an unexpected natural conception of fraternal twins that tragically resulted in vanishing twin syndrome at 11 weeks. Abby offers a masterclass on the power of medical self-advocacy, the emerging field of reproductive immunology, and what it truly means to hold profound grief in one hand and fierce hope in the other We invite you to listen to Abbey's incredibly brave and vital story of resilience, survival, and the unconditional love of a mother. Her raw honesty is a guiding light for anyone navigating the painful spaces of family building. If Abbey's story touches your heart, please subscribe and follow The Space Between Two Lines to join our supportive community. Share Your Story: If you would like to register to share your own journey on the podcast, please visit our website: https://www.twolines.space/register

    Abbey on Recurrent Pregnancy Loss, Two Failed IVF Cycles and Holding Onto Hope 🤍

  4. 20 Aug

    Sarah’s Story: Navigating PCOS, Male Factor Infertility and IVF

    In this deeply personal and resilient episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex welcomes Sarah Anderson, a woman whose path to motherhood has spanned nearly two decades of clinical hurdles and life-altering discoveries. Sarah shares her journey from a devastating PCOS diagnosis at age 17 to navigating eight different fertility clinics where she was blamed for infertility, only to uncover a decade-long secret regarding her ex-husband’s reproductive health. Now in a supportive new relationship, Sarah discusses the complexities of male factor infertility, the shock of IVF attrition (going from 37 eggs to just one embryo), and her courageous next steps using a known donor while planning her upcoming wedding.   We invite you to listen to Sarah’s incredibly honest account of finding strength after being "hit with the stick" of infertility multiple times. Her story is a testament to the fact that while the "F" in IVF stands for fertilization, it often takes a lot of "grit" to keep moving forward. If you find Sarah’s resilience inspiring, please subscribe and follow The Space Between Two Lines to join our growing community of voices. Connect with the Community: If you would like to share your own story on the podcast, please register at our website: https://www.twolines.space/register

    Sarah’s Story: Navigating PCOS, Male Factor Infertility and IVF

  5. 13 Aug

    Birth Trauma, Postpartum Anxiety and IVF: Claire’s Powerful Journey to a Healing VBAC

    In this deeply moving and educational episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex sits down with Claire, a 36-year-old hairdresser from Gippsland, Victoria. Claire’s journey began with a medical mystery—having never experienced a natural period despite being on the pill for 15 years. Her path to parenthood involved navigating a rare pituitary gland issue, the stress of ovulation induction, and the heartbreak of three consecutive miscarriages before discovering a genetic link. Claire offers a raw and vulnerable look at her two distinct experiences with IVF, the trauma of a high-risk pregnancy involving placenta previa, and her courageous decision to seek help for postnatal anxiety.   We invite you to listen to Claire’s incredible story of resilience and her transition from the "trenches" of infertility to an empowered motherhood. If you find comfort or insight in this conversation, please subscribe and follow The Space Between Two Lines. By following, you help us bring these vital stories of hope and healing to the community members who need them most.   Connect with the Community: If you would like to share your own story on the podcast, please register at our website: https://www.twolines.space/register If you need postnatal support: PANDA https://www.panda.org.au

    Birth Trauma, Postpartum Anxiety and IVF: Claire’s Powerful Journey to a Healing VBAC

  6. 6 Aug

    Emergency Surgery After Egg Collection, Low AMH & IVF for Cystic Fibrosis | Imogen’s Story

    In this incredibly raw and vital episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex sits down with Imogen, a 28-year-old from Western Australia, who shares her intense and rare journey through the world of assisted reproduction. After discovering she and her husband are both carriers for cystic fibrosis (CF), Imogen’s path shifted from natural conception to the high-stakes world of IVF with PGT-M (Preimplantation Genetic Testing for Monogenic Disorders). From navigating a low ovarian reserve at just 24 years old to surviving life-threatening internal bleeding after egg collection, Imogen’s story is a masterclass in resilience and the profound sacrifices women make to protect the health of their future children.   Connect with Imogen: Imogen has been documenting her journey through the "trenches" of IVF and PGT-M to help others feel less isolated. You can follow her updates and find community support on her TikTok: @immypaps   We invite you to listen to this incredibly brave and educational account of persistence. If Imogen’s story of advocacy and resilience resonates with you, please subscribe and follow The Space Between Two Lines. Your support helps us share these vital, vulnerable stories that ensure no parent walks the path of infertility alone.   If you want to share your story with us in this podcast, visit our website to register: https://www.twolines.space/register.

    Emergency Surgery After Egg Collection, Low AMH & IVF for Cystic Fibrosis | Imogen’s Story

  7. 30 Jul

    Katelyn’s Story: Seven Years of Infertility, IVF and Stillbirth

    In this incredibly powerful episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex sits down with Katelyn, a women's family violence refuge worker from Geelong, Victoria, to document her relentless seven-year journey to motherhood. What began as a hopeful plan to announce a pregnancy at her wedding in 2019 transformed into a marathon of unexplained infertility, five intensive egg collections, and a devastating medical saga. Katelyn shares the trauma of having her concerns dismissed due to her age, the shock of a Stage 4 endometriosis diagnosis after years of "unexplained" labels, and the heartbreaking loss of her son, Fletcher, at 26 weeks. This conversation is a masterclass in medical self-advocacy and finding the resilience to honor a child's legacy while still navigating the complexities of fertility treatment.   Honoring a Legacy: Bears of Hope & Cuddle Cots In honor of her son, Katelyn launched a major fundraiser for Bears of Hope, a vital Australian charity providing support for miscarriage and stillbirth. Her efforts raised over $12,000, enough to provide multiple cuddle cots to hospitals, ensuring other grieving parents have the precious gift of time with their babies   Support Bears of Hope: https://www.bearsofhope.org.au   We invite you to listen to Katelyn’s incredibly brave and vulnerable account of persistence. If her story of "choiceless strength" resonates with you, please subscribe and follow The Space Between Two Lines. By following, you help us bring these essential stories of loss, love, and resilience to the parents and families who need them most.   If you want to share your story with us in this podcast, visit our website to register: https://www.twolines.space/register.

    Katelyn’s Story: Seven Years of Infertility, IVF and Stillbirth

  8. 23 Jul

    Carolina’s Journey: Secondary Infertility, Recurrent Loss & Pregnancy After IVF

    In this deeply informative and resilient episode of The Space Between Two Lines, Alex sits down with Carolina, who shares her intense multi-year journey through secondary infertility. After a "streamlined" first pregnancy during the 2020 lockdown, Carolina was blindsided by the complexities of conceiving her second child. Her story traverses the "revolving door" of emergency departments, the emotional weight of three consecutive miscarriages—including a twin pregnancy—and the eventual discovery of a rare genetic factor. This conversation is a masterclass in medical self-advocacy, exploring how Carolina transitioned from the public health system to advanced IVF protocols to finally find the answers she needed.   We invite you to listen to this incredibly brave account of persistence and medical discovery. If Carolina’s journey through the "trenches" of recurrent loss resonates with you, please subscribe and follow The Space Between Two Lines. Your support helps us continue to share these vital stories, ensuring no one has to navigate the space between those two lines alone.   If you want to share your story with us in this podcast, visit our website to register: https://www.twolines.space/register.

    Carolina’s Journey: Secondary Infertility, Recurrent Loss & Pregnancy After IVF
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Welcome to The Space Between Two Lines, hosted by Alex Saunders. This is a podcast dedicated to honest conversations about the realities of fertility loss and the journey to parenthood. This is a space for real and raw discussions with everyday people, sharing stories that often go unheard, providing connection, community, and validation.

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