TBPN

John Coogan & Jordi Hays

TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.

  1. 44 MIN AGO

    Samsung Invests $70B in AI Chips, The Cubanator Joins, Apple: Behind in AI, Ahead in Revenue | Mark Cuban, John Kim, Eugen Alpeza, Ari Herbert-Voss, Alex Konrad, Carl Eschenbach & Pat Grady, Jim Cantrell, Tom Hulme

    Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com (01:45) - Samsung Invests $70B in AI Chips (09:15) - Composer 2 Available in Cursor (17:49) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (28:43) - Apple: Behind in AI, Ahead in Revenue (40:23) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (57:09) - Carl Eschenbach & Pat Grady. Carl Eschenbach, a seasoned technology executive with over 35 years of experience, has held leadership roles at VMware and Sequoia Capital before becoming co-CEO of Workday in December 2022 and sole CEO in February 2024. In his conversation, he discusses his return to Sequoia Capital, emphasizing the firm's unique position to navigate the massive technological disruptions, particularly in AI, and his personal mission to mentor and support founders during this transformative era. Pat Grady is a partner at Sequoia Capital focused on early- and growth-stage investments across software and consumer technology. He has led or supported investments in companies like Airbnb, Zoom, and DoorDash, and is known for his work with founders on scaling products and building enduring companies. (01:29:44) - Jim Cantrell, an American entrepreneur and mechanical engineer, co-founded Phantom Space Corporation in 2019, aiming to revolutionize space transportation through mass production of rockets and satellites. He discusses his extensive experience in the automotive and aerospace industries, including his early involvement with SpaceX, where he accompanied Elon Musk to Russia to purchase rockets, an endeavor that ultimately led to the founding of SpaceX. Cantrell also highlights Phantom Space's development of the Daytona launch vehicle, designed to provide cost-effective and responsive launch services, and emphasizes the importance of vertical integration and mass manufacturing in reducing costs and increasing access to space. (01:49:54) - Tom Hulme, Managing Partner and Head of Europe at GV (Google Ventures), discusses the firm's significant focus on AI investments, noting that 80-90% of their current activities involve AI, and emphasizes the importance of technical talent in Europe, highlighting that 35% of the world's AI researchers are based there. He also mentions the emergence of repeat founders and a "PayPal mafia" effect in Europe, citing investments in companies like Snyk and GoCardless. Additionally, Hulme underscores the UK's substantial contributions to AI research, particularly through DeepMind, and discusses the potential of new AI technologies such as world models and reinforcement learning to complement existing large language models. (02:00:41) - Mark Cuban, born in 1958, is an American entrepreneur and investor, best known for his ownership of the Dallas Mavericks and his role on the television show "Shark Tank." In the conversation, he discusses his positive outlook on life, his information consumption habits, and his approach to handling AI-generated communications. He also shares insights into emerging trends in AI-driven startups, the evolving landscape of sports and entertainment, and his perspectives on the future of robotics and self-driving cars. (02:35:54) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (02:40:58) - John Kim, co-founder and CEO of Paraform, discusses the company's evolution from assisting startups in building founding teams to serving a diverse clientele, including public companies like Palantir. He highlights Paraform's recent $40 million funding round led by Scale Venture Partners and outlines plans to deploy the capital for team expansion and product roadmap acceleration. Additionally, Kim shares the company's strategic move into the legal hiring market, aiming to become a universal hiring platform across various industries. (02:48:40) - Eugen Alpeza, co-founder and CEO of Edra, discusses how their agentic learning system connects to existing enterprise systems like ServiceNow, Jira, Outlook, Salesforce, and Zendesk to observe and document employee workflows, enabling automation of tasks without requiring explicit instructions. He highlights that Edra's approach is particularly beneficial for large companies with complex processes, citing clients such as ASOS, Cushman & Wakefield, and HubSpot. Additionally, Eugen mentions that Edra has raised $30 million in funding, led by Sequoia, with continued support from ATVC and A-Star. (02:52:31) - Ari Herbert, founder of RunCivil, is dedicated to automating hacker intuition to enhance internet safety. He recounted his journey from being OpenAI's first security hire in 2019, where he contributed to GPT-3 and Codex, to establishing RunCivil after recognizing the need for proactive security measures against malicious AI use. Ari discussed the diverse threats faced by organizations, the limitations of model distillation, and the importance of tailored security solutions for enterprises, emphasizing the necessity of offensive strategies in cybersecurity. (03:02:37) - Alex Konrad, founder and editor of Upstarts Media, discusses the evolution of his media company since its launch, highlighting the introduction of a podcast and feature stories aimed at providing service-oriented coverage for founders. He emphasizes the importance of delivering concise, informative content tailored to the busy schedules of startup builders, such as commute-length podcasts and illustrative articles that simplify complex topics. Konrad also reflects on the current state of venture capital, noting the significance of domain expertise and the challenges of maintaining visibility in a competitive landscape. 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    3h 20m
  2. FULL INTERVIEW: Mark Cuban on Robots, AI, Self-Driving, and Advice to Students

    1 HR AGO

    FULL INTERVIEW: Mark Cuban on Robots, AI, Self-Driving, and Advice to Students

    This is our full interview with Mark Cuban, recorded live on TBPN. We discuss why he believes AI agents are spawning a new wave of startups across every vertical despite most still struggling to find traction, unpack his contrarian take that humanoid robots will fail as the world instead redesigns environments around specialized machines, and debate how AI is reshaping everything from cold email and small business operations to Shark Tank, self-driving cars, and what the next generation of founders should actually be building. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to podcast platforms immediately after.  Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella.  Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com TBPN.com is made possible by:Ramp - https://Ramp.comAppLovin - https://axon.aiCisco - https://www.cisco.comCognition - https://cognition.aiConsole - https://console.comCrowdStrike - https://crowdstrike.comElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.ioFigma - https://figma.comFin - https://fin.aiGemini - https://gemini.google.comGraphite - https://graphite.comGusto - https://gusto.com/tbpnKalshi - https://kalshi.comLabelbox - https://labelbox.comLambda - https://lambda.aiLinear - https://linear.appMongoDB - https://mongodb.comNYSE - https://nyse.comOkta - https://www.okta.comPhantom - https://phantom.com/cashPlaid - https://plaid.comPublic - https://public.comRailway - https://railway.comRamp - https://ramp.comRestream - https://restream.ioSentry - https://sentry.ioShopify - https://shopify.comTurbopuffer - https://turbopuffer.comVanta - https://vanta.comVibe - https://vibe.co Follow TBPN:https://TBPN.comhttps://x.com/tbpnhttps://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    35 min
  3. Nvidia Restarts China Sales, Vibe Coding Backlash, Peptide Craze | Diet TBPN

    23 HR AGO

    Nvidia Restarts China Sales, Vibe Coding Backlash, Peptide Craze | Diet TBPN

    Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. TBPN is made possible by: Ramp - https://Ramp.com AppLovin - https://axon.ai Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Cognition - https://cognition.ai Console - https://console.com CrowdStrike - https://crowdstrike.com ElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.io Figma - https://figma.com Fin - https://fin.ai Gemini - https://gemini.google.com Graphite - https://graphite.com Gusto - https://gusto.com/tbpn Kalshi - https://kalshi.com Labelbox - https://labelbox.com Lambda - https://lambda.ai Linear - https://linear.app MongoDB - https://mongodb.com NYSE - https://nyse.com Okta - https://www.okta.com Phantom - https://phantom.com/cash Plaid - https://plaid.com Public - https://public.com Railway - https://railway.com Restream - https://restream.io Sentry - https://sentry.io Shopify - https://shopify.com/tbpn Turbopuffer - https://turbopuffer.com Vanta - https://vanta.com Vibe - https://vibe.co Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    30 min
  4. 1 DAY AGO

    H200s in China, Apple Blocks Vibe Coding, Peptide Debates | Andy Fang, Matt Jayson, Dr. Cameron Sepah, Chris Gadek, Chris Hladczuk, Georgios Konstantopoulos, Matt Huang

    Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com (05:54) - H200s Are Going to China (18:27) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (27:33) - Apple Cracks Down on Vibe Coding Apps (37:36) - Peptide Debate (46:17) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (54:50) - Private Credit Meets the AI Shift (01:05:44) - Andy Fang, co-founder and head of consumer engineering at DoorDash, discusses the company's recent acquisition of Metis, an applied AI research lab, to enhance AI integration into their services. He highlights the potential of AI to improve customer experiences by addressing decision paralysis through agentic commerce, and to assist restaurants in optimizing operations, such as pricing and promotions. Fang also emphasizes the importance of creating seamless, beneficial AI-driven experiences without overtly branding them as AI features. (01:25:05) - Matt Jayson, founder and CEO of Multiply, discusses his company's innovative approach as the first hybrid AI media agency, combining AI agents with human expertise to create self-learning ads that adapt based on customer feedback. He highlights their recent emergence from stealth mode with a $9.5 million funding round and emphasizes the need for modernized advertising strategies in the B2B sector, noting that traditional ads become stale quickly. By integrating AI with human media buying, Multiply aims to revolutionize advertising effectiveness and efficiency. (01:34:12) - Dr. Cameron Sepah, a licensed clinical psychologist and former assistant clinical professor of psychiatry at UCSF School of Medicine, is the founder and CEO of Maximus, a company specializing in men's health and hormone optimization. In the conversation, he discusses the concept of performance medicine, emphasizing the use of FDA-approved treatments like testosterone, GLP-1 agonists, and growth hormone peptides to enhance health and performance. Dr. Sepah also highlights the importance of personalized medicine, advocating for tailored protocols that address individual health needs beyond traditional healthcare models. (02:06:19) - Chris Gadek, CEO of AdQuick, discusses how the company is revolutionizing out-of-home (OOH) advertising by integrating technology to streamline planning, buying, and measurement processes. He highlights AdQuick's recent partnership with OUTFRONT Media, a major player in the OOH space, to enhance campaign execution and measurement across various formats. Gadek also emphasizes the importance of proving the effectiveness of OOH advertising through advanced analytics and measurement tools. (02:17:05) - Chris Hladczuk, co-founder and CEO of Hanover Park, an AI-native fund administration platform, discusses how his company streamlines financial operations for investment firms by replacing manual processes—referred to as "human duct tape"—with AI-driven solutions. He highlights the platform's ability to provide real-time data integration, enabling faster decision-making and reducing reliance on traditional, labor-intensive methods. Additionally, Hladczuk emphasizes Hanover Park's commitment to becoming the default partner for fund CFOs seeking AI transformation, underscoring the company's rapid growth and focus on customer satisfaction. (02:30:07) - Georgios Konstantopoulos, Chief Technology Officer and General Partner at Paradigm, leads the engineering team at Tempo, a payments-focused blockchain project. In the conversation, he discusses Tempo's recent mainnet launch and the introduction of the Machine Payments Protocol (MPP), designed to enable agents to perform transactions seamlessly. He highlights Tempo's optimization for fast, low-latency payments and introduces features like Sessions and Access Keys to manage transaction scalability and security. (02:45:24) - Matt Huang, co-founder and Managing Partner at Paradigm, discusses the rapid development and launch of Tempo, a Layer 1 blockchain designed for stablecoin payments, highlighting the collaboration between Paradigm and Stripe to address existing infrastructure challenges. He emphasizes the importance of promoting stablecoin adoption beyond merely offering another blockchain, noting their potential to modernize the financial system by enabling instant, 24/7 payments. Huang also reflects on Paradigm's investment strategy, comparing early investments in Bitcoin and Ethereum to current considerations in the AI landscape, and underscores the firm's commitment to supporting frontier technologies. 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    3h 7m
  5. OpenAI Ends Side Quests, SF Housing Market is Back, Kalshi’s $1B Prize | Diet TBPN

    1 DAY AGO

    OpenAI Ends Side Quests, SF Housing Market is Back, Kalshi’s $1B Prize | Diet TBPN

    Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. TBPN is made possible by: Ramp - https://Ramp.com AppLovin - https://axon.ai Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Cognition - https://cognition.ai Console - https://console.com CrowdStrike - https://crowdstrike.com ElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.io Figma - https://figma.com Fin - https://fin.ai Gemini - https://gemini.google.com Graphite - https://graphite.com Gusto - https://gusto.com/tbpn Kalshi - https://kalshi.com Labelbox - https://labelbox.com Lambda - https://lambda.ai Linear - https://linear.app MongoDB - https://mongodb.com NYSE - https://nyse.com Okta - https://www.okta.com Phantom - https://phantom.com/cash Plaid - https://plaid.com Public - https://public.com Railway - https://railway.com Restream - https://restream.io Sentry - https://sentry.io Shopify - https://shopify.com/tbpn Turbopuffer - https://turbopuffer.com Vanta - https://vanta.com Vibe - https://vibe.co Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    31 min
  6. 2 DAYS AGO

    AI Side Quests, Zaslav's Payday, SF Housing Market is Back | Shyam Sankar, Gili Raanan, Anna Patterson, Jake Loosararian, carried_no_interest

    Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com (02:22) - AI Side Quests (18:42) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (41:12) - Jensen Huang on Going to Space (44:38) - Zaslav's Payday (48:21) - Carried No, an anonymous X user known for his distinctive profile picture, discusses the unfolding crisis in software private equity and private credit markets, highlighting the unsustainable financing structures that have led to a looming debt repayment cliff in 2028-2029. He emphasizes the role of AI disruption in accelerating these challenges, as enterprise customers shift to shorter contract terms due to technological uncertainties, thereby undermining the traditional stability of software investments. Carried No also critiques the slow adoption of AI strategies within private equity firms, suggesting that without integrating AI expertise into their operations, these firms risk obsolescence in an increasingly competitive landscape. (01:17:04) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:19:38) - SF Housing Market is Back (01:23:49) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:30:56) - Shyam Sankar, Chief Technology Officer and Executive Vice President of Palantir Technologies, has been instrumental in transforming the company from a startup to a global leader in software and AI solutions. In the conversation, he discusses the urgent need to revitalize the American industrial base to enhance national defense capabilities, emphasizing the role of AI in empowering workers and streamlining manufacturing processes. Sankar also highlights the importance of fostering a culture of innovation and agency among individuals to drive meaningful change in the defense sector. (01:58:03) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (02:00:18) - Gili Raanan, founder of Cyberstarts and a prominent cybersecurity investor, discusses the rapid acceleration of technological advancements, noting that while the last technological doubling took 170 years, the next is expected within 25 years, leading to unprecedented changes. He emphasizes the need for proactive safeguards to manage emerging risks, particularly in artificial intelligence, to prevent scenarios reminiscent of science fiction dystopias. Raanan also highlights the importance of collaboration among cybersecurity leaders to address the expanding threat landscape and ensure a safer future. (02:15:17) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (02:22:36) - Anna Patterson, founder of Ceramic AI and former Google VP of Engineering, discusses her company's mission to reduce search costs to 5 cents per thousand queries, aligning them with inference costs. She explains that while inference costs have decreased to approximately 50 cents per thousand, search remains expensive at $5 to $15 per thousand queries, likening this disparity to the high cost of salsa compared to tacos. Patterson also highlights Ceramic AI's capabilities, including a 40-billion-page web search and proprietary systems, emphasizing their supervised generation approach to minimize hallucinations and enhance application affordability and speed. (02:31:09) - Jake Loosararian, co-founder and CEO of Gecko Robotics, discusses founding the company in 2013 to address critical infrastructure failures in industries like energy and defense. He highlights the development of wall-climbing robots equipped with advanced sensors to inspect and predict maintenance needs, enhancing safety and efficiency. Loosararian also shares his journey from bootstrapping the startup to achieving a valuation exceeding $1 billion, emphasizing the importance of perseverance and innovation in solving complex industrial challenges. (02:48:00) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions TBPN.com is made possible by: Ramp - https://Ramp.com AppLovin - https://axon.ai Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Cognition - https://cognition.ai Console - https://console.com CrowdStrike - https://crowdstrike.com ElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.io Figma - https://figma.com Fin - https://fin.ai Gemini - https://gemini.google.com Graphite - https://graphite.com Gusto - https://gusto.com/tbpn Kalshi - https://kalshi.com Labelbox - https://labelbox.com Lambda - https://lambda.ai Linear - https://linear.app MongoDB - https://mongodb.com NYSE - https://nyse.com Okta - https://www.okta.com Phantom - https://phantom.com/cash Plaid - https://plaid.com Public - https://public.com Railway - https://railway.com Restream - https://restream.io Sentry - https://sentry.io Shopify - https://shopify.com/tbpn Turbopuffer - https://turbopuffer.com Vanta - https://vanta.com Vibe - https://vibe.co Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    2h 53m
  7. AI vs. Dog Cancer,  Timothée Chalamet Under Fire, ‘Agents Over Bubbles' | Diet TBPN

    2 DAYS AGO

    AI vs. Dog Cancer, Timothée Chalamet Under Fire, ‘Agents Over Bubbles' | Diet TBPN

    Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. TBPN is made possible by: Ramp - https://Ramp.com AppLovin - https://axon.ai Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Cognition - https://cognition.ai Console - https://console.com CrowdStrike - https://crowdstrike.com ElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.io Figma - https://figma.com Fin - https://fin.ai Gemini - https://gemini.google.com Graphite - https://graphite.com Gusto - https://gusto.com/tbpn Kalshi - https://kalshi.com Labelbox - https://labelbox.com Lambda - https://lambda.ai Linear - https://linear.app MongoDB - https://mongodb.com NYSE - https://nyse.com Okta - https://www.okta.com Phantom - https://phantom.com/cash Plaid - https://plaid.com Public - https://public.com Railway - https://railway.com Restream - https://restream.io Sentry - https://sentry.io Shopify - https://shopify.com/tbpn Turbopuffer - https://turbopuffer.com Vanta - https://vanta.com Vibe - https://vibe.co Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    33 min
  8. 3 DAYS AGO

    AI vs. Dog Cancer, Oscars Reactions, How to Lose the AI Arms Race | Kevin Espiritu, Paul Conyngham, Tony Zhao, Drew Oetting, Carina Hong, Cameron Fink, Debra Birnbaum

    Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com (05:56) - AI vs Dog Cancer (20:45) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (40:20) - Stratechery: "Agents Over Bubbles" (01:01:08) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:06:35) - How to Lose the AI Arms Race (01:14:28) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:22:54) - Oscars Reactions (01:31:04) - Kevin Espiritu, founder and CEO of Epic Gardening, is a self-taught gardener who has built the world's most-followed gardening brand, offering educational content across multiple platforms and selling curated gardening products. In the conversation, he discusses breeding rare Costa Rican tree frogs, his journey from creating content to developing products, and the challenges of scaling his business, including hiring a president to manage operations. (01:57:34) - Paul Conyngham, an Australian tech entrepreneur and AI consultant, discusses his journey in developing a personalized mRNA vaccine to treat his dog Rosie's cancer. After traditional treatments failed, he utilized AI tools like ChatGPT and AlphaFold to analyze Rosie's DNA, identify mutations, and design a vaccine construct. Collaborating with researchers, he navigated ethical approvals and manufacturing challenges, ultimately administering the vaccine, which led to a significant reduction in Rosie's tumor size. (02:13:20) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (02:21:11) - Tony Zhao, CEO of Sunday Robotics, discusses the company's shift from demos to real-world deployments, focusing on household tasks like laundry and cleaning. He highlights their innovative data collection method using gloves that mirror the robot's hand movements, enabling diverse and high-quality data collection from users' homes. Additionally, Zhao mentions their recent $165 million Series B funding, emphasizing their commitment to advancing physical intelligence and expanding into various environments beyond homes. (02:30:54) - Drew Oetting, a founding partner at 8VC, focuses on investments across various stages and sectors, including vertical software, health delivery, and biomanufacturing. He discusses 8VC's early investment in Quince, highlighting the founder's impressive vision and the company's rapid growth, particularly post-COVID, achieving significant repeat ordering rates and cash generation. Oetting also explores the transformative impact of AI on direct-to-consumer retail, emphasizing its role in enhancing supply chain efficiency and operational margins, and reflects on the evolving startup landscape, noting the potential for high-margin businesses driven by AI advancements. (02:43:06) - Carina Hong, founder and CEO of Axiom Math, discusses her background in mathematics and physics from MIT, her company's mission to develop mathematical superintelligence as a pathway to verified superintelligence, and the integration of post-training reasoning with formal verification to achieve superior performance in mathematical competitions. (02:51:26) - Cameron Fink, co-founder and CEO of Aaru, leads a company specializing in predicting human behavior for various global businesses. In the conversation, he discusses how Aaru utilizes ground truth behavioral data—such as credit card purchase history and real election results—to forecast outcomes like election winners and marketing campaign effectiveness, emphasizing the limitations of traditional surveys due to biases and inaccuracies. Fink also highlights Aaru's ability to simulate behaviors of diverse audiences at scale, providing more accurate predictions than existing methods. (03:00:34) - Debra Birnbaum, an accomplished media strategist with over 25 years in news and entertainment, currently serves as Editor-in-Chief at Gold Derby, following her tenure as global head of awards for Amazon MGM Studios. In the conversation, she reflects on the Oscars, highlighting the success of "One Battle After Another" and Warner Brothers, praises Conan's hosting, and discusses the emotional impact of Michael B. Jordan's historic win. She also addresses the industry's cautious approach to AI, emphasizing the need to protect writers' rights while acknowledging AI's potential benefits in filmmaking. 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    3h 16m

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TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.

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