The Hogans

Elle Hogan and Cameron Hogan
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People watching with a point. Married co-founders Elle and Cam Hogan unpack pop culture, your favorite TV shows, and the strange little ways humans behave when we want to be loved. Come for the hot take. Stay because somewhere along the way, you finally understand why that one friend who’s the total package still can’t keep a relationship alive. thehoganshow.substack.com

  1. 8 Jun

    Why Success Triggers Envy (And How to Handle It)

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit thehoganshow.substack.com Our massage therapist focused heavily on Cam's head and face during the session. Afterward she told him one word had kept coming through the whole time, over and over. Envy. "I don't believe it's yours. It's someone towards you." Cam's answer was: story of my life. We recorded this the next day, on purpose, while it was still alive. Most people describe this period years later, once it's safely behind them. We're in it right now, in the gap between the plane building speed on the runway and the plane actually leaving the ground. That gap is what this episode is about. What happens to you when you become increasingly visible and increasingly less accessible at the same time, and the strange, sticky things that start happening around you because of it. Three of the things we get into: - The 1 a.m. text I got about a month after meeting Cam, from a man who had surveyed "seven out of seven people" on the walk - The one sentence men say to Cam's face more than any other, which I have watched happen in front of my own eyeballs more times than I can count - What happened this week when we found out someone in Austin started a walk identical to ours We don't tie any of it up. This is the two of us in the middle of the thing, saying the parts most people wait until it's safe to say. For the ongoing version of these conversations, explore The Board: https://www.theboardwalks.com/the-board

    Why Success Triggers Envy (And How to Handle It)

  2. 18 May

    Coming Out of the Spiritual Closet

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit thehoganshow.substack.com There's a version of this episode where we say "okay, we're spiritual" and move on with the day. This is not that one. Cam almost didn't go to Phoenix. He didn't want to travel, we were in the busiest season of our lives, and the whole thing was a hard no, right up until it became a very clear yes. So he rented a Corvette (a dramatic departure from our decade-old dented Kia Soul, who has never once failed us) and flew out to a workshop with eleven strangers, most of them Phoenix real estate people twenty years older than him. What happened in that room is the story he tells here. He cries telling it. He almost never does that. We get into: - Muscle testing: what it is, how his chiropractor father used it on him as a kid with a bag of cheese, and how a room of high performers used it to locate the exact event underneath a lifelong block - Why a release can take two minutes instead of two years, and what has to be true for that to actually work - Why we have never said the words out loud, even though our entire life is the practice And then the part I've been chewing on for months: what it costs you to keep the most alive part of yourself in the shadows, and who never finds you while you're busy doing it. Consider this our lovingly passed-along call-out. For the ongoing version of these conversations, explore The Board: https://www.theboardwalks.com/the-board

    Coming Out of the Spiritual Closet

  3. 30 Mar

    What Is Self-Love? (Hint: Boundaries)

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit thehoganshow.substack.com Someone on the walk was asked what self-love means to him. His answer: volunteering. Helping the church, helping the homeless, getting out of his own head. Beautiful things, all of them. But is that self-love, or is it the most socially acceptable way to never sit with yourself? That question opens the whole episode. We came back from a two-week hiatus mid-upgrade, shedding skins, and this is the conversation that wanted to happen. Not the bubble-bath version of self-love. The version where you notice you cannot pour from a cup that's empty, and that what festers in the depletion isn't generosity. It's resentment, martyrdom, and a very tired face you can spot in a Best Buy. Some of what we get into: - The two kinds of selfishness, and why the light one buys back your entire calendar - Why we've attended roughly ten events in four years, and why no one who walks with us owes us anything - The relaxation crisis: how doing nothing became a skill you have to build tolerance for We talk about the obligations so quiet you'd never flag them, the ones decided in microseconds. We talk about your head as an old MacBook with the fan going like a lawnmower, and what we'd do for the laptop that we won't do for ourselves. Elle shares a practice she learned in Sedona in 2021 involving tapping, gratitude, and moving energy out of the head and back into the belly. We end in one minute of silence. Actual silence. Bring your shoulders down for it. For the ongoing version of these conversations, explore The Board: https://www.theboardwalks.com/the-board

    What Is Self-Love? (Hint: Boundaries)

  4. 9 Mar

    Ready For My Wife: The Miracle Story of How We Met

    Two years ago to the hour, Cam was mile eight into a half marathon he had not trained a single day for, standing at a literal fork in the road where he could have quietly stepped off the course and gone home. He had moved to Austin from Bali six weeks earlier knowing nothing about the city except barbecue, football, and Joe Rogan. He was sleeping on a mattress on the floor. He had eaten two Domino's pizzas on Super Bowl Sunday and taken a photo of himself doing it, which he still has. What happened between mile eight and the finish line is the part he had never told publicly. What happened later that night, in a bathtub too small for him, is the part he almost left out of this recording entirely (I had to remind him). Then, less than twenty four hours later, a voice told him to close his laptop and walk ten minutes down the street. Right now. He listened. We recorded this on our two year anniversary, on the exact date and at nearly the exact time. In this one: - The twenty seconds at the fork in the road, and what he said to himself to keep going - The four words he repeated for five straight miles, and the pace they bought him - Why walking slowly may get you to the same place as running 13.1 miles untrained, and how I found that out this week It's a love story, but the love story is almost the smaller half of it. For the ongoing version of these conversations, explore The Board: https://www.theboardwalks.com/the-board This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thehoganshow.substack.com/subscribe

    Ready For My Wife: The Miracle Story of How We Met

  5. 2 Mar

    Going “No Contact” with People You Love (Here's Why)

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit thehoganshow.substack.com Cam went on YouTube one afternoon and every thumbnail he saw was a version of the same video: why I went no contact with my family. That observation sat between us for two weeks before we sat back down on the couches to actually pull it apart. What we found underneath it was not drama. It was obligation. The Sunday Zoom call somebody set up out of love that quietly curdled into dread. The parent who cries "why are you trying to leave me" and means it. The crab pulled back down into the bucket by people who genuinely think they are helping. We also went somewhere I did not expect: that this whole wave is only possible because a generation finally got what their parents said they wanted for them. You raise a child to stand on their own two feet, and then they may use those feet to walk away. Nobody planned for that part. In this one: - Why cutting someone off is almost always easier than telling them the truth, and what the one honest sentence actually sounds like - The flashlight analogy, and why consequences are a form of teaching rather than punishment - The friend I finally told the truth to four years ago, what I said, and the response I never got We land somewhere neither of us expected, on whose job it actually is to ask the question when someone starts drifting. My answer changed while I was saying it out loud. For the ongoing version of these conversations, explore The Board: https://www.theboardwalks.com/the-board

    Going “No Contact” with People You Love (Here's Why)

  6. 23 Feb

    You Are Enough: A Reminder For High Achievers

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit thehoganshow.substack.com Cam finished a genuinely huge day and told me he hadn't done enough. Not as a joke. He meant it, the way he has meant it since he was a kid. So we sat down and pulled the thread while it was still raw, because he is right in the middle of the shift and I wanted to capture it before it smoothed over into a lesson. He narrates the voice as it sounded when he was a teenager, and you can hear his breath change while he does it. He talks about living in Bali with some of the best sunsets in the world and never letting himself fully see one, because sunsets did not count as productive. He talks about what changed when he started lying down in the middle of the afternoon and building no story around it. Then the conversation turned toward me, and toward a version of myself I do not usually bring up. In this one: - The difference between his wound (impatience: let's not waste time) and mine (urgency: one typo and the world is ending) - Why the "let me try a new morning routine" hamster wheel is a symptom, not a fix, and what he replaced it with - A friend in college who slow faded from me, what she said before she went, and the four years it took me to understand it The last twenty minutes got emotional in a way neither of us planned. I said things about who I used to be that I have not said out loud before. For the ongoing version of these conversations, explore The Board: https://www.theboardwalks.com/the-board

    You Are Enough: A Reminder For High Achievers

  7. 16 Feb

    What Living in Your Purpose Actually Looks Like

    A month into dating, Cam gave me an envelope of twenty dollar bills with instructions to give them away. I had a great salary at Meta and money invested every month, and the idea of handing one to a stranger physically tightened my chest. That gap between what my bank account said and what my body believed is where this whole conversation starts. We recorded this in big shirts with no plan. We meditated for a few minutes first, and Cam came out of it saying he wanted to talk about purpose. What came out was less philosophy than receipts: the specific decisions that put us on these couches instead of somewhere else. He tells the dinner in Las Vegas where a room of very wealthy men promised him he could be them in twenty years, and what he saw on their faces that made him quit the next morning. I tell the seven years at Meta, the coup I quietly staged to change roles, and the fifty percent of my energy that came back overnight. In this one: - The moment his heart physically sank in a financial aid office, and the two week notice he refused to give - Why the word "should" is the tell, and the call I almost took out of politeness - Eight people at the first walk, and the four weeks where quitting would have made complete sense We also make the case that purpose is a verb, not a sentence, and that you cannot think your way to it. You can only give something a season. For the ongoing version of these conversations, explore The Board: https://www.theboardwalks.com/the-board This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thehoganshow.substack.com/subscribe

    What Living in Your Purpose Actually Looks Like

  8. 9 Feb

    We Cranked for 30 Days Straight (Most Productive Month Ever)

    My mom texted me after the last batch of episodes asking if I was okay. I had cried on camera, mid sentence, more than once, including one recording where the audio was rough and I insisted we publish it anyway. Then I went quiet for a month and had the most productive stretch of my life. This one is the report back. Cam has a theory that I emote more in front of the microphone than I do the other ninety seven percent of our week, which neither of us has fully cracked. He also names the trap he keeps catching himself in: get one plate spinning, and the mind immediately says do ten, which is how you end up dropping the one. He did it with a weekly newsletter. He did it again with a workout plan that went from zero to five days a week overnight. I talk about the four days I put my phone down, and what I saw on the other side of that. In this one: - The word "cranking," what it means in this house, and why the whole month ran on it - His half-ass insurance policy, and the reason he says presence is the only metric he keeps now - What a text from my own mother made me want to say out loud about crying in public Somewhere in here is a newsletter thousands of people subscribed to for two and a half years that did not exist. I finally made it. That story is small and it is also the whole thing. For the ongoing version of these conversations, explore The Board: https://www.theboardwalks.com/the-board This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thehoganshow.substack.com/subscribe

    We Cranked for 30 Days Straight (Most Productive Month Ever)
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People watching with a point. Married co-founders Elle and Cam Hogan unpack pop culture, your favorite TV shows, and the strange little ways humans behave when we want to be loved. Come for the hot take. Stay because somewhere along the way, you finally understand why that one friend who’s the total package still can’t keep a relationship alive. thehoganshow.substack.com

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  • Creator
    Elle Hogan and Cameron Hogan
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    59
  • Rating
    Clean
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