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14 FEB

S18EP07 - The Big Takeaway

This week, the queens split into pairs to create “for” and “against” campaign ads for wildly gay-coded propositions. On the runway, the category was “I Can See Right Through Her,” serving sheer fabrics, illusion panels, and transparent fantasy. Mikey Meeks won the challenge. Juicy Love Dion and Vita Von Teese Star landed in the bottom two. After lip syncing to “Houdini” by Dua Lipa, Juicy Love Dion stayed, and Vita Von Teese Star sashayed away. In this episode of The Big Takeaway, Joe and Lauri break down whether the right queen won, whether the right queens were in the bottom, and whether the correct queen went home. They discuss: Whether Mikey’s win felt earned or overdue Why several of the performances felt technically fine but emotionally safe The growing sense that no single queen is dominating the season How playing it safe might be affecting the energy of the competition Whether adaptability — not just talent — is what separates queens in lip sync showdowns Joe explores the idea that some contestants may be holding back out of fear of producer edits or fandom backlash, leading to polished but predictable television. Lauri questions whether this cast has produced a true frontrunner yet — and whether that’s making the season feel even, but less electric. They also break down the Juicy vs. Vita lip sync and what ultimately made the difference on stage. Join us each week as we give our immediate reactions, gut takes, and first impressions of every new episode of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 18. Support the show at patreon.com/afterthoughtmedia or subscribe on Apple Podcasts for early access and bonus content. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

14 feb

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43 min
01/12/2025

S2EP08 - Titans: Supervillains!

In this week’s episode, the monsters are tasked with creating and presenting a comic-book-style supervillain complete with a signature power. Eva Destruction takes the win, leaving the rest of the Top 5 to face the Ghostly Gallows. Cynthia Doll and Jaharia fall into the Pit of Oblivion, while JK and Abhora advance to the finale. In the Hellbound Showdown, Blackberry and Sigourney Beaver battle it out—Sigourney emerges victorious, earning a chance at returning to the competition. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

01/12/2025

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52 min
15/12/2025

S2EP10 - Dragula Titans: The Grand Finale

Joe Betance and Lauri Roggenkamp close out Dragula Titans Season 2 with a full breakdown of the finale episode, reflecting on the season as a whole, revisiting their wildly inaccurate preseason predictions, and unpacking the Boulet Brothers’ final decision. From the Four Horsemen floor show to Eva Destruction’s controversial win, the ghouls leave no gravestone unturned. Joe and Lauri revisit their Meet the Monsters predictions—and discover just how spectacularly wrong they both were. A breakdown of why Priscilla Chambers, Loris, and Frankie Doom didn’t match the season’s actual trajectory. Discussion of which monsters were underestimated (Jaharia) and which were overestimated. Analysis of whether the Boulets truly “changed things up” this season—or simply polished the same formula. A candid conversation about self-sabotage, execution vs. concept, and what Dragula actually rewards. Joe and Lauri reflect on whether Dragula winners tend to disappear after taking the crown—and what that means for Titans. The final four monsters were tasked with creating and presenting four looks inspired by the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, incorporating horror, filth, and glamour. Joe and Lauri discuss: Which looks felt inspired versus overly literal Execution gaps between concept and performance Why swinging for the fences sometimes pays off—and sometimes doesn’t How technical excellence ultimately outweighed ambition in the final judgment Eva Destruction is crowned the winner of Dragula Titans Season 2—but not without debate. Joe and Lauri weigh Eva’s consistency against Jaharia’s ideas and Abhora’s ambition. A deep dive into the cemetery crowning scene, including pacing, visuals, and whether the finale landed emotionally. A larger discussion about Dragula’s relationship with its winners—and why victory can sometimes feel like an ending rather than a beginning. As Titans Season 2 comes to a close, Joe and Lauri reflect on what worked, what didn’t, and what they hope to see when Dragula returns. While the season delivered strong television, the finale raises lingering questions about risk, creativity, and whether Dragula truly rewards innovation—or simply mastery of its existing rules. Subscribe to Hello Uglies wherever you listen to podcasts Join the Afterthought Media Patreon for bonus episodes, including Just Between Us Ghouls Follow Joe Betance and Lauri Roggenkamp for ongoing Dragula coverage and future seasons Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

15/12/2025

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51 min
17 GEN

The Big Takeaway: Season 18. Episode 3.

Joe and Lauri are back with their immediate, no-filter reactions to RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 18, Episode 3. In this first-response episode of Big Takeaway, they break down a divisive RDR Live challenge, debate the judging, and ask the uncomfortable question: does this challenge even work anymore? Joe and Lauri assess whether the right queens landed in the top and bottom, and whether the correct winner and eliminated queen were chosen A spirited debate over Jane Don’t vs. Juicy Love Dion, including how expectations, nerves, and runway presentation factor into the judges’ decisions Frustration with the overall quality of the sketches, with comparisons to Saturday Night Live that do the queens no favors A larger critique of the RDR Live challenge itself, including whether it’s fair—or even viable—for the current generation of queens Thoughts on performance anxiety, especially from queens expected to excel in comedy A breakdown of the lip sync, including whether track record ultimately determined the outcome Growing concern about what this episode signals for the upcoming Snatch Game Joe argues that RDR Live may be a fundamentally flawed challenge—one that asks queens to succeed at a format that even seasoned professionals struggle to execute well. Lauri agrees, pointing out that without proper rehearsal, writing support, or clear comedic direction, the challenge sets many contestants up to fail. Together, they question whether Drag Race should retire the format altogether—or radically rethink how it’s produced. “At a certain point, you’re not judging talent—you’re judging who failed the least.” The full, moment-by-moment Drag Race Recap—with deeper analysis, runway discussion, and extended commentary—lives exclusively on Patreon and Apple Podcasts Subscriptions throughout the season. Ad-free full recaps every week Access to the Afterthought Media archive Bonus shows at higher tiers Search Drag Race Recap on Patreon or subscribe directly via Apple Podcasts. Joe and Lauri return next week with another Big Takeaway, sharing their immediate reactions as Season 18 continues—and with Snatch Game looming, the pressure is officially on. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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43 min
10 GEN

S18EP02 - The Big Takeaway

🎤 Big TakeawayRuPaul’s Drag Race Season 18, Episode 2 — “Q-Pop Girl Groups” Joe and Lauri Roggenkamp are back with their immediate, unfiltered reactions to Episode 2 of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 18. Recorded right after watching the episode, Big Takeaway breaks down who won, who flopped, who went home—and what the judges may not have said out loud. The duo dives into the girl-group challenge and tackles the episode’s biggest questions: Did Jane Don't deserve the win? Were Mandy Mango and D. D. Fuego the correct bottom two? And did the right queen get the chop? Joe and Lauri debate performance vs. runway, question the judges’ priorities, and unpack why some queens vanished into the background while others dominated—intentionally or not. A spirited debate over whether Mia Starr was robbed—and how much the runway should matter in a performance challenge Why the “leftovers” group never quite came together, despite strong individual résumés A brutal assessment of the lip sync and why effort—not just stunts—matters Joe revisits his ongoing critique of D. D. Fuego, expanding on themes of privilege, presentation, and perception Lauri raises questions about genre authenticity: punk, disco, pop—and why none of it quite landed as promised Joe’s central takeaway this week centers on age and perception—and whether unspoken ageism influenced team selection, critiques, and group dynamics. As the season continues, both hosts note how often “experience” and “being old” are framed as liabilities rather than strengths, even in a cast filled with seasoned performers. Big Takeaway is just the beginning. The full, moment-by-moment Drag Race Recap runs exclusively on Patreon and Apple Podcasts Subscriptions throughout the season Paid members get ad-free episodes, weekly deep dives, and access to the Afterthought Media archive January special: 40% off your first month on Patreon Premium & Executive tiers (Patreon only) However you subscribe, your support keeps the mics on and the takes hot. New episodes of Big Takeaway drop weekly with immediate reactions to every episode of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 18. Until next time—Sashay away. 💋 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

10 gen

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41 min
15/04/2020

Season 1. Episode 1.

In this conversation, Joe, Lori, and Jay discuss various topics including the UFC, Dana White, and the challenges of using technology. They also touch on movies like Maleficent and their preferences for older actresses. The conversation is light-hearted and filled with humor. In this conversation, Joe, Jay, and Laurie discuss various topics, including dreams, meeting partners on dating apps, and their preferences in physical attributes. They also share funny anecdotes and experiences. The conversation is light-hearted and humorous. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Tea Talk 02:49 Dana White's Controversial Decision 10:06 The Challenges of Using Technology 13:10 Appreciating Older Actresses 26:35 Exploring Dreams and Their Meanings 33:19 Funny Dream Experiences 37:07 Physical Attractiveness and Preferences 45:40 Meeting Partners on Dating Apps 53:20 Wrap Up and Plugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

15/04/2020

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56 min
28/08/2024

Bonus Ep 4: Lauri calls a baby ugly and then starts a fire in a bathroom

In this part of the conversation, Joe, Lauri, and Jay discuss Jay's ongoing legal battle with Sergio and the challenges of serving him with court papers. They also discuss therapy sessions and the dynamics of their relationships. Overall, the conversation covers topics related to scandal, legal proceedings, and personal growth. Later in the conversation, the hosts discuss various topics including arguments, gift cards, and a boy band concert. They also mention comedian Jay Mohr and his reputation, as well as the process server serving papers to Sergio. The conversation jumps between different stories and tangents, creating a rambling and comedic atmosphere. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss Lauri's friend Lucy, who is a listener of the show. Joe and Lauri talk about their interactions with Lucy and how she became friends with Lauri. They also mention Lucy's connection to Chicago. The conversation then shifts to a garden party that Lauri attended, where she had a funny incident with a candle. They also discuss a frustrating conversation Lauri had with her Aunt Kathy, where there was a miscommunication. The hosts also touch on Joe's curiosity about someone he looked up on TikTok and his revelation about his preferences in pornography. In this final part of the conversation, the hosts discuss a personal incident involving a car accident and the return of a diagnostic tool. They also reflect on the importance of breaking patterns and improving self-worth. The hosts share humorous anecdotes and express their excitement for future episodes. Jay and Lauri provide their social media handles for listeners to connect with them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

28/08/2024

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1 h 36 min
23/04/2020

Season 1. Episode 2.

In this episode of The Tea, the hosts discuss various topics including the impact of COVID-19, the attention given to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, and the cancellation of the live finale of Ink Master. They also touch on the FDA changing regulations for gay blood donations and share their favorite and least favorite La Croix flavors. In this conversation, Joe Betance, Jay Ellis, and Lauri Roggenkamp share funny and outrageous stories, discuss topics like being on the down low and the public's fascination with celebrities, and explore the concept of sympathy for those who are still in the closet. They also touch on the importance of ignoring individuals like Aaron Shocke to prevent them from gaining attention. The conversation ends with a discussion about potential sign-offs for the podcast. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and COVID-19 Impact 05:44 Attention Given to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 21:56 Disappointment Over the Cancellation of Ink Master Finale 27:02 Favorite and Least Favorite La Croix Flavors 27:31 Funny and Outrageous Stories 29:26 Exploring the Concept of Being on the Down Low 31:41 The Public's Fascination with Celebrities 32:39 Sympathy for Closeted Individuals: A Complex Discussion 35:29 Ignoring Aaron Shock: Preventing Attention and Harmful Behavior 52:44 Choosing the Perfect Sign-Off for a Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

23/04/2020

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56 min
08/12/2025

S2EP09 - Titans: Reunion

In this week’s episode, Joe and Lauri sit down to unpack the Dragula Titans Season 2 reunion—well… eventually. The reunion itself gets about ten minutes of focused airtime; the rest is pure Joe-and-Lauri chaos: bathroom disasters, awkward restaurant cats, questionable comedians, First Amendment weirdos, and one very dramatic microphone collapse. If you come for the Dragula analysis, stay for the unhinged tangent festival that only these two can deliver. Joe and Lauri agree that this reunion is better than most Dragula reunions… but still mostly a retread of old drama. The Dollya vs. the Cast confrontation sparks most of the meaningful discussion—though the Boulets’ editing muddies the waters and leaves major context unexplained. The show revisits the Loris bathtub incident, but the evidence shown doesn’t match the accusations levied against Dollya. Lauri notes the frustration of Dollya apologizing while the show cuts away to a separate conversation, leaving viewers without clarity. Eva’s “I’ll support you but from very far away” energy prompts a bigger conversation about loyalty and self-preservation among the cast. Cynthia vs. Blackberry gets rehashed, with Lauri pointing out Cynthia’s selective outrage and how the logic of gameplay gets conveniently ignored. Joe observes that drag, an inherently solitary art form, doesn’t always translate well to group competition—and the reunion makes that painfully clear. Consensus: great drag queens, complicated people, and a reunion that proves almost no one has changed their position since filming. A good hour of the episode is not about Dragula at all—and it’s glorious. Lauri recounts accidentally blocking a mobility-impaired woman from the accessible stall, panicking, fleeing, and hiding in another restroom for ten minutes so she wouldn’t have to face her. Joe immediately relates with his own “handicap seat anxiety” from the Alamo Drafthouse era. Joe updates Lauri on the search for a Christmas party venue that won’t unleash a stray cat upon her.Spoiler: every promising venue apparently comes with two cats. Lauri suggests she’d rather dine among “roaming homeless men” than roaming cats. The two dig into a viral clip of a woman confronting a man over racist online comments. Lauri, horrified and impressed, wonders what possesses people to act with such intense malice online. Joe walks Lauri through the bizarre world of people who film grocery store entrances to provoke strangers into reacting on camera. A long reminiscence on: Comedians who police other comedians’ material Possums falling from trees Robin Williams’ unconscious joke absorption Why Lauri hates hanging out after shows A petty-cash scandal that once destroyed one of Joe’s friendships Joe’s microphone literally detaches mid-episode. Lauri vamped so hard she nearly passed out trying to fill dead air. The video may one day see the light of day. (No runway this week — no Ghost Host segment for reunion episodes.) Ultimately, the reunion offered: Some clarifications Some contradictions And a whole lot of cast members who still don’t like each other But the real heart of the episode is Joe and Lauri spiraling into stories, ethics debates, comedy war stories, possum trauma, and moral hypotheticals about whether Lauri would turn Joe in for a crime (answer: immediately). Email: hellouglies@afterthought.mediaInstagram: @afterthoughtmediaSupport the shows: patreon.com/afterthoughtmedia Hosted by Joe Betance & Lauri Kay RoggenkampProduced and edited by Afterthought Media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

08/12/2025

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1 h 11 min
31/07/2024

Bonus Ep 2: Lauri scares a baby

In this conversation, the hosts discuss various topics including the Olympics, personal anecdotes, and planning for the future. They touch on the Simone Biles controversy, the upcoming trial of the killer of Jay's friend, and the importance of having a plan for after death. They also share humorous stories and jokes throughout the conversation. Lauri is preparing to go to Chicago to see her nephew for the first time. She will be staying for a week and plans to help out with groceries, medicine, and assembling a crib. Joe and Jay discuss their feelings about babies and toddlers. They also talk about their experiences being apart from their partners and the challenges of traveling. Joe shares a story about his parents' multiple bathroom breaks during a car trip, and Lauri and Joe discuss the annoyance of political text messages and phone calls. Joe also shares a story about selling posters and dealing with a demanding customer. In this conversation, Joe shares his frustrating experience with the postal service losing a package. The discussion also touches on collecting Funko Pops and the phenomenon of waiting in line for limited edition items. They wrap up with some favorite quotes from reality TV shows. Laurie mentions her upcoming trip to Chicago. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

31/07/2024

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1 h 7 min

Join Joe Betance and a rotating panel of co-hosts as they recap the latest episodes of RuPaul's Drag Race. Irreverent, smart and hilarious, Drag Race Recap will satisfy your craving to eavesdrop on gay friends as they critique their favorite reality show.

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