Build, Repeat. (A Paces Podcast)

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Deep discussions with those who are helping us build our way out of climate change. 

  1. 20 ago

    Coordinating the Decentralized Grid: Michael Grasso on GridRails and the Future of DER Orchestration

    Michael Grasso spent his career building some of the largest residential virtual power plants in the country — from Vistra Corp Solar to Sunrun to Sunnova — before founding GridRails, a software platform built for load-serving entities to bring distributed energy resources online, visualize them, control them, and settle the economics, all through a single system. James and Michael dig into why only about 20% of the demand-response market has been captured despite roughly 11 million Americans already enrolled, and why Michael sees this as a two-sided problem: utilities lacking the tools to build flexible programs, and consumers uninterested in the rigid offerings they've been given. They talk through how real-time price and demand signals — rather than fixed, regulator-bound programs — could unlock far more participation. The conversation turns to one of the fastest-moving trends in the industry: the rise of "edge" data centers sited on distribution networks rather than transmission, and what it means to orchestrate flexibility for facilities whose inference-driven load rises and falls throughout the day. They also cover the regulatory tailwinds coming out of FERC Order 2222, why 34 states now have some form of structured VPP program, and why Michael argues that simplifying those programs — not adding more structure — is the real path to scale. A candid, wide-ranging conversation about coordination, complexity, and what it will actually take to keep the grid working as electrification accelerates. Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    Coordinating the Decentralized Grid: Michael Grasso on GridRails and the Future of DER Orchestration

  2. 20 mag

    Quantify what you can, intuit the rest: Engie's distributed development playbook for 2026

    In this episode, James talks with Navya Gundeti, Director of Project Development at Engie North America, where she leads the distributed solar and storage development pipeline. Navya is operating in a market where five-year plans don't survive the year they were written. OBBBA, tariff whiplash, data center land competition, and reshuffled interconnection queues forced her team to rebuild its strategy in real time. Her case in this episode: rigorous quantification on what you can measure, honest intuition on what you can't, and a bet that the next real unlock for the industry is utilities and advanced computing finally meeting. Why distributed solar isn't a head-to-head competitor for data center load — but co-ops and munis facing first-time load growth are a real openingCompeting with hyperscalers offering landowners $25K–$100K+ per acre, and why landowner education (not price) is the distributed developer's advantageThe interconnection playbook shift: the right technology partners plus deep utility stakeholder relationships, not "submit and wait"Her hot take: the fusion of AI, quantum computing, and grid intelligence will flip the script.A must-listen for distributed solar and storage developers navigating the OBBBA aftermath, the data center wave, and the next phase of interconnection. Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    Quantify what you can, intuit the rest: Engie's distributed development playbook for 2026

  3. 14 apr

    Scaling Distributed Generation Beyond Community Solar with Bill Francis from New Energy Equity

    In this episode, James talks with Bill Francis, Vice President of Emerging Markets at New Energy Equity — a distributed solar developer that has spent over a decade building community solar programs across the country. Bill joined NEE at the end of 2025 after seven years at Engie, arriving right as the traditional community solar model is showing real strain. Programs are saturating. Development capital is tighter. The ITC safe harbor clock is ticking. His mandate: figure out what comes next — and build it. The case he makes in this episode is that the fundamentals for distributed energy are actually stronger than ever. The branding and program structure just need to change. Why community solar programs are hitting a wall — and the structures (feed-in tariffs, co-op PPAs, VPP tariffs) that could replace themThe ITC safe harbor cliff at end of 2027: why developers need a three-dimensional strategy on equipment timelines, permitting, and safe harbor right nowThe distributed storage opportunity: why half an acre beats 80 acres — and why electric co-ops are among the most motivated customers for standalone batteriesNEE's development DNA: why being judicious about when and how you de-risk assets matters more than ever when development capital is scarceA must-listen for distributed solar and storage developers thinking through market selection, capital discipline, and what the post-community solar era actually looks like. Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    Scaling Distributed Generation Beyond Community Solar with Bill Francis from New Energy Equity

  4. 31 mar

    A mile deep, not wide: NineDot's case for going all-in on one market with Sam McGarvey

    In this episode, James talks with Sam McGarvey, Director of Origination at NineDot Energy — a developer, owner, and operator of front-of-meter battery storage systems across New York City's five boroughs. NineDot made a deliberate bet: ignore every other market and go all-in on the single hardest place to build energy storage in the country. That focus has taken them from 3 employees to 84, and toward 400–500 megawatts of distributed storage across New York City by the end of the decade. Sam breaks down what it actually takes to develop in NYC — and why the lessons apply everywhere. Why NYC's complexity is a feature, not a bug, for a focused developerThe affordability story: 1.3 million NY utility customers behind on bills — and what storage can do about itWhy January 2026 was a turning point: the first time ConEd included distributed storage in its load forecastA must-listen for developers navigating dense markets, complex permitting, and the next phase of distributed storage. Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    A mile deep, not wide: NineDot's case for going all-in on one market with Sam McGarvey

  5. 18 mar

    How virtual power plants became a daily grid resource with Matt Plante

    In this episode, James talks with Matt Plante, President of Voltus, about what it actually takes to build a virtual power plant that grid operators call on every single day. Voltus aggregates distributed energy resources, including industrial loads, batteries, commercial buildings, and now residential assets, into virtual power plants that participate in wholesale electricity markets. Since April 2024, Voltus has been dispatched by a grid operator every single day, a milestone that signals demand flexibility has moved from emergency backup to standard operating procedure. Matt joins James to unpack how the company has grown 10x since their 2021 conversation, what finally made the battery cost curve work, and why the barriers to scale look nothing like the barriers to entry. James and Matt get into: Why the shift from no-load-growth to explosive load growth has changed what grid operators will consider, and how fastHow batteries went from not penciling to the fastest-growing DER segment in Voltus's portfolioWhat data centers actually want from demand flexibility programs, and why forcing them to participate would backfireWhy FERC 2222 hasn't delivered and what it actually takes to unlock new states for third-party demand responseThe grid's relationship to distributed resources has fundamentally changed, and this episode is a clear-eyed look at what made that shift happen and what comes next. Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    How virtual power plants became a daily grid resource with Matt Plante

  6. 3 mar

    Learning from the last grid build-out (and why VPPs are the answer) with Mark Dyson

    The grid has been here before. Between 1960 and 2000, US utilities grew demand 4–5x while cutting real electricity prices by 20%, and the lessons from that era are more relevant than ever. Mark Dyson is Managing Director of Electricity at RMI, where he's spent nearly two decades working on grid modernization, distributed energy resources, and the policy and market design that holds it all together. Before returning to RMI, he led analytics at Ascend Analytics, giving him a rare vantage point across both the technical and market sides of the energy transition. In this episode, Mark draws on that history to make the case that data center load growth isn't the crisis it's being framed as — it's a solvable problem, and virtual power plants are a big part of the solution. He breaks down why VPPs are 40–60% cheaper than gas peakers or batteries for meeting new peak demand, and what it actually takes to deploy them at scale. This episode covers: - The three lessons from last century's grid growth: embrace new technology, invest proactively in infrastructure, and make the most of existing capacity - Why virtual power plants are the fastest, most affordable tool for meeting data center demand growth - Why hyperscalers resist flexible load at the project level — and how paying others to curtail resolves that tension - Navigating permitting headwinds and the post-OBBBA policy environment If you're working on the energy transition, Mark's perspective on what history can actually teach us about today's challenges is essential listening. Learn more about RMI here.  Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    Learning from the last grid build-out (and why VPPs are the answer) with Mark Dyson

  7. 17 feb

    Why grid planning is the hardest problem in energy right now with Derek Stenclik

    In this episode, James talks with Derek Stenclik, Founding Partner at Telos Energy. Derek shares his path into the power sector, starting at GE where he spent nearly a decade working on grid planning, resource adequacy, and early studies on integrating wind and solar at scale, before co-founding Telos to tackle some of the grid’s most complex planning challenges. The conversation focuses on how utilities and grid operators are navigating an era of unprecedented uncertainty, driven by rapid load growth, shifting resource mixes, and long planning timelines. Derek shares how Telos approaches these challenges through advanced grid modeling, emphasizing the importance of scenario analysis, proactive planning, and better decision-making in the face of volatile forecasts and evolving market rules. Key topics include: Why grid modeling and scenario analysis are foundational to the energy transitionManaging explosive load growth from data centers and large new loadsThe evolving role of load flexibility, batteries, and behind-the-meter generationAffordability, cost allocation, and the risk of stranded infrastructureA must-listen for anyone thinking about how reliability, affordability, and speed intersect in today’s power system. Reach out to Telos Energy by visiting their website.  Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    Why grid planning is the hardest problem in energy right now with Derek Stenclik

  8. 21 gen

    Bridging the power gap: The fuel-flexible future for data centers with Craig Gordon

    In this episode, James talks with Craig Gordon, Head of Global Policy, Regulatory Affairs, and Business Development at Mainspring Energy. Craig brings deep experience in clean energy—from scaling Invenergy’s wind and solar projects to shaping U.S. energy policy with the American Clean Power Association. Today, he’s helping Mainspring redefine dispatchable generation for a rapidly electrifying world. They discuss how Mainspring’s linear generator technology offers a modular, dispatchable solution ideal for the growing energy demands of hyperscale data centers. Craig shares insights on the importance of fuel flexibility, how the Inflation Reduction Act has reshaped deployment dynamics, and the policy shifts enabling faster, cleaner energy integration behind the meter. How Mainspring’s linear generator bridges the gap between renewables and dispatchable generationThe role of fuel-flexibility (natural gas, hydrogen, ammonia) in enabling resilient sitingWhy data center load growth is stressing legacy regulatory frameworksHow recent FERC policy shifts are opening new doors for behind-the-meter innovationA must-listen for developers navigating grid constraints, data center energy needs, and next-gen dispatchable tech. Paces helps developers find and evaluate the sites most suitable for renewable development. Interested in a call with James, CEO @ Paces?

    Bridging the power gap: The fuel-flexible future for data centers with Craig Gordon
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Deep discussions with those who are helping us build our way out of climate change. 

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    Paces
  • Anni di attività
    2020 - 2026
  • Puntate
    159
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    Build, Repeat. (A Paces Podcast)

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