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Technology is changing fast. And it's changing our world even faster. Host Alix Dunn interviews visionaries, researchers, and technologists working in the public interest to help you keep up. Step outside the hype and explore the possibilities, problems, and politics of technology. We publish weekly.

  1. Puntata 134

    A Sneak Peek into The Maybe Collective

    We’re taking a short summer break and will be back on your feed in a couple of weeks. But we've got news before we go. Catch up on our most recent series: Computer Says Kill & REAL Resistance We're cooking up something new: a pilot membership community, launching this fall. Alix shares a little sneak peek at what we're building, and why we think its time to create a place where people can go deeper, find co-conspirators, and figure out what to do next. It's still early, and because we’re building this for you, we want to make sure it’s shaped by you. We want to hear from you: What would make a community like this worth showing up for?What kinds of conversations, connections, or activities would you want to be part of?What should we be thinking about as we build this?We’d love your thoughts in a quick survey here. You can also send us a note directly to pod@themaybe.org. Join The Maybe Collective to explore the politics of technology through fresh ideas that you won't hear anywhere else. Sign up for monthly insights, access to exclusive digital events, and real ways to get more involved on issues you care about. Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout

    A Sneak Peek into The Maybe Collective

  2. 24 lug

    The Colossus Crossroads: Fighting for the Future of Memphis w/ KeShaun Pearson

    In Memphis, companies don't come in to invest in the city. They come in to extract from its people and its land, no matter how high the human cost. That's exactly what xAI did when they decided to build one of the largest data centers in South Memphis, regardless of what it meant for the wellbeing of the people already living there. More like this: The Collective Fight for Our Humanity - REAL Resistance In this episode, KeShaun Pearson, Executive Director of Memphis Community Against Pollution (MCAP), connects this fight to a much longer history of disinvestment and oppression in South Memphis— one that existed long before xAI showed up and shaped what it actually means to become a "sacrifice zone." But KeShaun also knows that when you're fighting to take something down, you have to build something better in its place. He shares his vision for what co-governance could look like between communities, cities, and corporations, and what it would take for a company that says it's here to give something back to actually mean it. Further reading & resources: Livestream w/ Alix Dunn: The Battle for MemphisElon Musk’s Memphis AI empire is the epicenter of the data center backlash — CNBCxAI built an illegal power plant to power its data center — Southern Environmental Law CenterxAI in Memphis — What you need to know — Memphis Community Against PollutionJoin The Maybe Collective to explore the politics of technology through fresh ideas that you won't hear anywhere else. Sign up for monthly insights, access to exclusive digital events, and real ways to get more involved on issues you care about. Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout

    The Colossus Crossroads: Fighting for the Future of Memphis w/ KeShaun Pearson

  3. 17 lug

    The Gig is Up: How Uber Ruined Wage Labor with Veena Dubal

    In 2013, taxi drivers were beginning to notice something unusual: unmarked, black cars were cutting them off in taxi lines and picking up their passengers. Little did these drivers know that those black cars were the start of Uber — and it wasn’t just going to destroy the taxi industry, but wage labor as we knew it. More like this: REAL Resistance — Against Automated Governments In this episode, Alix Dunn sits down with Veena Dubal, one of the leading experts on gig labor and Professor of Law at the University of California, Irvine School of Law. Veena shares with us her firsthand account of the Uberization of everything from the beginning to now. She breaks down how this seemingly-innocuous ride sharing app would lead to algorithmic wage fixing around the world and the gamblification of workers’ lives. Further reading & resources: On Algorithmic Wage Discrimination — Veena DubalAI Shouldn’t Be Setting Prices or Wages. States Need to Push Back. — Veena Dubal, 2026How artificial intelligence uncouples hard work from fair wages through ‘surveillance pay’ practices—and how to fix it — Veena Dubal, Wilneida NegrónAlgorithms of Exploitation — Human Rights WatchJoin The Maybe Collective to explore the politics of technology through fresh ideas that you won't hear anywhere else. Sign up for monthly insights, access to exclusive digital events, and real ways to get more involved on issues you care about. Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout

    The Gig is Up: How Uber Ruined Wage Labor with Veena Dubal

  4. 10 lug

    The Collective Fight for Our Humanity - REAL Resistance

    Anna Bacciarelli and Shazeda Ahmed know more than anyone that there are only a handful of tech companies asserting dominance around the world by talking in high-level abstractions about what the future looks like. At REAL ML, they want to change that. More like this: REAL Resistance: Who's Behind Big Brother? This is REAL Resistance, a collection of conversations produced in collaboration with Real ML, featuring the experts and advocates who make up Real ML’s global network. In this final conversation, Real ML executive director Anna Bacciarelli and researcher Shazeda Ahmed discuss what it takes to knit together a global community that is working to resist the material harms of big tech: the powers that be want to keep any discussion about the future of AI as vague as possible — which is why the experts that attend Real ML workshops take the time to get specific about the issues. Further reading & resources: More about Real MLField-building and the epistemic culture of AI safety by Shazeda Ahmed et alA 2024 profile on Frantz Fanon — The GuardianComputer-vision research powers surveillance technology, by Abeba Birhane, Ria Kalluri, et al — Nature Magazine June 2025**Subscribe to our newsletter to get more stuff than just a podcast — we run events and do other work that you will definitely be interested in!** Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout

    The Collective Fight for Our Humanity - REAL Resistance

  5. 7 lug

    Who's Behind Big Brother? - REAL Resistance

    Mariel Garcia-Montes and Crofton Black share their stories and investigations that uncover the backdoor deals that allow the surveillance industry to thrive under the guise of ‘security’. If you have nothing to hide, you won’t mind if we spy, right? More like this: REAL Resistance: The Global Fight Against Technocolonialism This is REAL Resistance, a collection of conversations produced in collaboration with Real ML, featuring the experts and advocates who make up Real ML’s global network. In this conversation, two guests from the network take us on a guided tour of the global underground surveillance tech market: Mexico is the world’s biggest importer of surveillance tech, and has a rich history of spying on citizens. Mariel Garcia-Montes briefs us on that history and what it means for Mexico nowSurveillance technology represents a global industry that is mediated by exclusive conferences and backdoor deals; Crofton Black has spent years investigating this industry, the players, and the vulnerabilities they exploitFurther reading & resources: More about Mariel’s workSurveillance Secrets — Lighthouse Reports, 2025Ghost in the Network — Lighthouse Reports, 2023More on the Mexican Student Movement of 1968 — Eugenia Allier-Montano, 2022The Tierra Común Network, which Mariel invites any scholars and practitioners to joinJoin The Maybe Collective to explore the politics of technology through fresh ideas that you won't hear anywhere else. Sign up for monthly insights, access to exclusive digital events, and real ways to get more involved on issues you care about. Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout

    Who's Behind Big Brother? - REAL Resistance

  6. 3 lug

    The Global Fight Against Technocolonialism - REAL Resistance

    Paola Ricaurte Quijano, Fernanda Rodrigues, Angela Chukunzira, and Kauna Love Malgwi make it clear that colonial powers have never gone away. The people and technology powering them have just changed, and one of them is AI… More Like This: REAL Resistance: Against Automated Governments This is REAL Resistance, a collection of conversations produced in collaboration with Real ML, featuring the experts and advocates who make up Real ML’s global network. In this conversation, four guests from the network discuss how the business of AI continues legacies of colonialism in Brazil, Mexico, and Kenya: AI companies are taking land in Querétaro for data center expansion, and they’re doing it without asking first. Paola Ricaurte Quijano explains that these are the mechanisms of dispossession at play — and it’s nothing new.The government in Brazil are adopting a risk-based approach for AI regulation; Fernanda Rodrigues demonstrates the problems with this approach, and how they disproportionately harm Black people.African data workers suffer the worst mental health harms when compared to other localities. Angela Chukunzira and Kauna Love Malgwi have worked to build a resistance movement for oppressed workers, and a framework for decolonising mental health.Further reading & resources: A Mental Health Intervention for Data Workers — Kauna Ibrahim Malgwi"It's not drought, it's plunder" Querétaro, the valley of data centers — By Paola Ricaurte Quijano and Teresa Roldán Soria, July 2025Facial recognition surveillance in São Paulo could worsen racism — Al Jazeera, 2023The Feminist AI Research NetworkMore about the African Content Moderators UnionIris — The Institute for Research on Internet and SocietySiasa Place — a youth organisation that helped tech workers who had been dismissed**Subscribe to our newsletter to get more stuff than just a podcast — we run events and do other work that you will definitely be interested in!** Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout

    The Global Fight Against Technocolonialism - REAL Resistance

  7. 30 giu

    Against Automated Governments - REAL Resistance

    Maria Pilar Llorens, Divij Joshi, Gabriel Geiger, and Purity Mukami reveal how digitised welfare is not welfare — it’s just efficiency theatre. More like this: REAL Resistance: The AI Information Warp This is REAL Resistance, a collection of conversations produced in collaboration with Real ML, featuring the experts and advocates who make up Real ML’s global network. In this conversation, three guests from the network explore the rapid digitisation of public and judicial services around the world: Courts in LatAm countries are using ChatGPT to power through the case backlog. Maria Pilar Llorens explains that speed is not a virtue in judicial settingsKenya has adopted algorithmic proxy means-testing for healthcare — Gabriel Geiger & Purity Mukami reverse-engineered it to reveal its inequitiesDigitised public services kind of have a formula now: Divij Joshi’s work takes an aerial view of digitised payments, IDs, and consolidated data sets that govern the efficiency playbookFurther reading & resources: Artificial Intelligence and Human Rights Courts — Maria Pilar LlorensHiding Behind AI — Gabriel & Purity’s report on the new Kenyan healthcare systemSuspicion Machines — Gabriel Geiger et al, Lighthouse Reports March 2023How an algorithm denied food to thousands of poor in India’s Telangana — Divij Joshi, Tapasya, Kumar Sambhav, Al Jazeera January 2024AI governance in India – law, policy and political economy — Divij Joshi, 2024Use of Entity Resolution in India: Shining a light on how new forms of automation can deny people access to welfare — Amnesty International 2024Join The Maybe Collective to explore the politics of technology through fresh ideas that you won't hear anywhere else. Sign up for monthly insights, access to exclusive digital events, and real ways to get more involved on issues you care about. Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout

    Against Automated Governments - REAL Resistance

  8. 26 giu

    The AI Information Warp - REAL Resistance

    Klaudia Jaźwińska, Aliya Bhatia, and Yanick Kemayou come together to answer: What happens when a small collection of AI companies start colonising the truth? More like this: The Toxic Relationship Between AI & Journalism w/ Nic Dawes This is REAL Resistance, a collection of conversations produced in collaboration with Real ML, featuring the experts and advocates who make up Real ML’s global network. In this conversation, three guests from the network share all the ways in which AI is shaping our relationship with news, language, and learning: People are increasingly using AI for search and to get their news; but Klaudia Jaźwińska’s research finds that chatbots have a huge citation problemMany LLMs claim to be ‘multi-lingual’ — but also only tested in US English? Aliya Bhatia explains that porting outputs from English into all other languages in not gonna cut itHigher education in Africa is completely disconnected from local knowledge, which is why Yanick Kemayou founded Kabakoo: an alternative learning platform that leverages and preserves local knowledge with the use of technology, and without exploitationAs Yancik says in this episode, “openness without governance is extraction with extra steps”. Further reading & resources: AI Search has a Citation Problem — Klaudia Jaźwińska & Aisvarya ChandrasekarLost in Translation: Large Language Models in Non-English Content Analysis — Gabriel Nicholas, Aliya BhatiaMore on Kabakoo Academies, founded by Yanick KemayouThe SPUR Coalition — a UK org seeking to create standards and infrastructure for AI companies and news publishers to do businessThe State and Fate of Linguistic Diversity and Inclusion in the NLP World — by Pratik Joshi et al, 2020The #BenderRule: On Naming the Languages We Study and Why It Matters — Emily Bender, 2019The silicon gaze: A typology of biases and inequality in LLMs through the lens of place — Francisco W. Kerche et al, 2026Bamako AI FestivalJoin The Maybe Collective to explore the politics of technology through fresh ideas that you won't hear anywhere else. Sign up for monthly insights, access to exclusive digital events, and real ways to get more involved on issues you care about. Computer Says Maybe is produced by Georgia Iacovou, Kushal Dev, Marion Wellington, Sarah Myles, Van Newman, and Zoe Trout

    The AI Information Warp - REAL Resistance
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Technology is changing fast. And it's changing our world even faster. Host Alix Dunn interviews visionaries, researchers, and technologists working in the public interest to help you keep up. Step outside the hype and explore the possibilities, problems, and politics of technology. We publish weekly.

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  • Creatore
    Alix Dunn
  • Anni di attività
    2024 - 2026
  • Puntate
    133
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    © 2024
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    Computer Says Maybe

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