EXALT Podcast

EXALT Initiative

Resource extraction impacts our daily lives and has helped push the climate to the brink, but there are people around the world living and fighting for alternative ways forward. Join hosts Christopher Chagnon and Sophia Hagolani-Albov and their guests on the last Friday of each month for a discussion of the impacts of extractivisms, alternative ways forward, and stories from people living the struggle every day. If you are someone interested in how our environment and societies have come to their current state or learning about different ways we can move forward, this is the podcast for you.

  1. 30 GEN

    Vivian Price - How can film help give labor a greater voice for a just energy transition?

    This month we were delighted to have a conversation with Vivian Price, a visiting researcher at the University of Helsinki. Presently she is working with Janette Kotivirta, Doctoral researcher in World Politics at University of Helsinki, on a video dialogue project on just transitions. Vivian comes to Helsinki from California State University Dominguez Hills, where she is a Professor in Interdisciplinary, Environmental and Women's Studies. Vivian shares insight with us about her blue-collar work history and long-term experience working to strengthen labour and environmental standards. Prior to earning her doctorate as a non-traditional student, Vivian worked in restaurants, offices, and as a union member in factories, refineries, and construction sites, which served to develop and deepen her understanding of working-class struggles. She has also been an apprenticeship instructor and officer in the International Brother (& Sister) -hood of Electrical Workers, and once a professor, became an officer in the California Faculty Association. Vivian looks at climate justice through the lens of the worker, with the hope of connecting unions, scientists, communities, and environmentalists. This is a fresh perspective and allows us to explore new spaces in the discussion on the impacts of extractivism.  Vivian wishes to share a message of solidarity with our brothers and sisters in the US resisting ICE. We support this message and also stand in solidarity. If you would like to learn more about Vivian’s work, please check out the links below.  Vivian’s University Profile https://www.csudh.edu/labor-studies/faculty/vivian-price  Feature-length documentaries Hammering It Out (2000, 56 min) Distributor, Women Make Movies Description here  Transnational Tradeswomen (2006, 56 min) Distributor, Women Make Movies Description here Harvest of Loneliness (2010, 56 min) Distributor, Film Media Group. Description here Shorts on Just Transition Talking Union Talking Climate (2023, 15 mins) Three oil workers (a Nigerian, a Norwegian and a Californian) have a conversation about what it's like to be a unionist, how their companies view unions, how their companies distribute profits, and their views on climate change and the future of the oil industry. Based on research with the WAGE team at the University of Oslo and OsloMet. Voices from the green transition (2025, 14 mins) How are workers and communities experiencing the transition away from coal in South Africa and the extraction of lithium in Chile? This short film highlighting the ideas of marginalized groups is based on research from the Just Transition: action, concepts, debates and strategies research project at the University of Leeds.Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7GOu9hUsF4

    53 min
  2. 26/12/2025

    Tom Royer - How do the earth and space exist in a continuum of sustainability (or unsustainability)?

    This month we were delighted to be joined by Tom Royer who is a Visiting Researcher at the Arctic Centre and a Doctoral Researcher at the Faculty of Law at University of Lapland. Tom’s work revolves around commercial space ports in the arctic from a more-than-human perspective. This work combines critical legal studies, multispecies justice, and extractivism. These space ports are hubs where commercial spacecraft are stored, worked on, launched, and re-entered (sometimes whole, sometimes not). The Arctic is not a new venue for commercial space activities, with some ports having a more than 50-year history. This is partially because satellites orbiting the poles can circle the globe in a single day. Tom opens a whole world to us in relation to commercial space ports and gives us a lot of food for thought in terms of impacts of these operations.  Tom would like to make sure listeners are aware that everything he says during the episode is his own critical interpretations rather than simple factual statements. While his arguments map onto existing critical literature, they are still his own interpretation of his and, therefore, stand as supported analytical claims.  Want to learn more about Tom’s work? Check out his university profile https://research.ulapland.fi/en/persons/tom-royer/  Check out High North News https://www.highnorthnews.com/en  Check out Barents Observer https://www.thebarentsobserver.com/  Check out Keeptrack.space https://keeptrack.space/

    53 min
  3. 28/11/2025

    Sabaheta Ramcilović-Suominen - How can radical intraconnectedness help address the global polycrisis?

    This month we are delighted to have a conversation with Sabaheta Ramcilović-Suominen, who is an Associate Professor in International Forest Policy and Governance at the Natural Resources Institute, Finland (LUKE). Saba talks to us about her contributions to the recently published, open access book, Socioecological Transformations: Linking Ontologies with Structures, Personal with Collective Change. Sabaheta has a dual role in this book, as a chapter contributor and as the editor. We start the conversation with some insights into Sabaheta’s personal journey into research and how she got to be interested in concepts like non-duality and inner change in the context of working toward sustainability.  This episode particularly covers the concept of separation, as a root cause of socioecological distress and alienation, and radical intraconnectedness, as a lens that tackles the illusion of separation and how that informs the wider literature on socioecological transformations. Sabaheta also gives us a sneak peek into the five or six opening chapters, and some of the topics and concepts tackled there. Thus, many of the important contributions and chapters are not introduced or discussed. If you are interested to learn more about the book, please check it out here https://library.oapen.org/viewer/web/viewer.html?file=/bitstream/handle/20.500.12657/104337/9781040406724.pdf?sequence=1&isA.  In addition, if you would like to hear more, there is a digital Book Launch on 9.12.2025, which will spotlight many of the chapters not covered in this episode. More information on the book launch here: https://justglobeproject.com/book-launch-socioecological-transformations-linking-ontologies-with-structures-personal-with-collective-change-part-ii/. If you would like to learn more about Sabaheta’s work, please check out her latest project website https://justglobeproject.com/ and her research profile  https://www.luke.fi/en/experts/sabaheta-ramciloviksuominen.

    50 min
  4. 31/10/2025

    Georgia de Leeuw - How can psychoanalysis explain the Seductiveness of Extractivism and Techno-solutionism?

    This month we are honored to be joined by Georgia de Leeuw who is a post-doctoral researcher in Human Rights Studies at Lund University. Georgia’s research has focused on Swedish mining and steel transition, in which steel is produced with hydrogen instead of coal. We start the conversation talking about Swedish exceptionalism and what this means in relation to mining. This opens into a more general discussion of the colonial project and how it has played out in the Nordic context. Within the Nordic context, while colonialism did not often include crossing an ocean, there has still been intense colonial activity in the north and continuing violations of Indigenous rights. We then continue into discussing the role of techno optimism and how extractivism is framed by industry as a positive project, something that is required for development and survival. Georgia looks at advocates and resistance to mining and green steel through the lens of psychoanalysis. Join us for this amazing conversation! Would you like to learn more about Georgia’s work? https://portal.research.lu.se/en/persons/georgia-de-leeuw Artists and other resources mentioned in the show: Reindeer herder and co-author of forthcoming article: Rickard Länta, leading figure in the Sami resistance against mining in Jåhkågasska reindeer herding community Authors: Elin Anna Labba, Ann-Helén Laestadius Movies: Stolen (2024) accessible on Neflix, based on the book by Ann-Helen Laestadius Let the River Flow (2023) Artists: Anders Sunna, Timimie Märak and Maxida Märak, Sofia Jannok

    51 min
  5. 29/08/2025

    Nikolai Siimes - How do microbes view the world?

    This week we had the pleasure to be joined by Nikolai Siimes, who is a more than human geographer at Waipapa Taumata Rau/The University of Auckland. In addition to his academic research, he has worked for almost a decade in the wine sector in different capacities. He describes his PhD as an ethnography of wine, which uses wine as a case to follow microbes and human–microbe relations in agriculture. He uses “sensory and embodied ethnographic methods to examine microbial agency, agricultural governance, and the sensory-material politics of food and drink.” Nikolai starts our conversation by reminding us that microbes are everywhere and make up everything. Nikolai brings us to the microbial level and helps us think through their worlds and worldings and how our actions affect the microbial realm, for example with the use of pesticides in vineyards. This work takes microbes seriously as cultural agents within the world, rejecting simple accounts of microbes as inert and mechanistic.  If you want to learn more about Nikolai’s work, check out the links below: University Profile https://profiles.auckland.ac.nz/nikolai-siimes  If you want to read some of Nikolai’s publications: Having a drink with awkward Brett: Brettanomyces, taste(s) and wine/markets - An article on Awkward Brettanomyces https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nzg.12368 Making Time with Microbes - A recent book chapter discussing microbial temporalities and sensory ways of relating to wine microbes http://doi.org/10.4324/9781032632995-11

    51 min
  6. 25/07/2025

    Alexander Dunlap - How do we recognize the political occupation facilitating extractivism?

    We are delighted to welcome Alexander Dunlap back to the EXALT podcast for a conversation about his latest work. Xander has been looking at rare earth element mining, lithium mining, and solar panel lifecycles in the United States. Right now, he is writing up the research on the disposal and decommissioning of solar panels, which is where our conversation kicks off. Xander found that even in highly regulated states it is more economically efficient to just landfill them rather than recycle them (even if they would be technically recyclable). Low carbon technologies are being used in a lot of insidious ways in industrial and capitalist societies. We need to really reflect on what renewability really means and we need to think hard as researchers before we blindly engage with public relations words (i.e. sustainability, renewability).  Check out the Justice in Renewable Energy Supply Chains projects investigating the life cycle of solar panels on the ground, where you can find more information, articles and policy briefs: https://www.bu.edu/igs/research/projects/justice-in-renewable-energy-supply-chains/  If you would like to check out Xander’s other episodes, here are the direct links: How is this system killing us and what can we do? https://podcasts.apple.com/fi/podcast/xander-dunlap-how-is-this-system-killing-us-and-what-can-we-do/id1499621252?i=1000650809357  Until You Become Ungovernable, Why Would Anyone Listen to You? https://podcasts.apple.com/fi/podcast/alexander-dunlap-until-you-become-ungovernable-why/id1499621252?i=1000587449856  Is "green energy" really that green (and is it better called "fossil fuel plus")? https://podcasts.apple.com/fi/podcast/alexander-dunlap-is-green-energy-really-that-green/id1499621252?i=1000506999251   Check out Xander’s upcoming talk (26 Aug. 2025, 14:00-16:00) at University of Copenhagen https://cape.ku.dk/eng/calendar/2025/exploring-the-life-of-solar-panels/   Want to learn more about Xander’s work? Check out his research profiles here:  https://www.bu.edu/igs/profile/alexander-dunlap/ https://researchportal.helsinki.fi/en/persons/alexander-dunlap https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alexander-Dunlap?ev=hdr_xprf

    1 h 4 min

Descrizione

Resource extraction impacts our daily lives and has helped push the climate to the brink, but there are people around the world living and fighting for alternative ways forward. Join hosts Christopher Chagnon and Sophia Hagolani-Albov and their guests on the last Friday of each month for a discussion of the impacts of extractivisms, alternative ways forward, and stories from people living the struggle every day. If you are someone interested in how our environment and societies have come to their current state or learning about different ways we can move forward, this is the podcast for you.