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Welcome to the inside track of cybersecurity entrepreneurship. We bring you the best founders, operators, and investors building the future of cybersecurity.

  1. Rob Lee: Building Dragos into a multi-billion-dollar mission-driven cybersecurity company

    2 gg fa

    Rob Lee: Building Dragos into a multi-billion-dollar mission-driven cybersecurity company

    Our guest in this episode is Rob Lee, co-founder and CEO of Dragos. Two weeks ago, Accenture agreed to acquire a majority stake in Dragos as part of the massive, over $4 billion transaction that also included the acquisitions of runZero and NetRise. As luck would have it, we recorded this conversation just a few weeks before the announcement. Massive congratulations to Rob and to the entire teams of Dragos, runZero, and NetRise! ​ When Rob started Dragos, most investors didn't believe critical infrastructure security was a venture-scale opportunity. Despite getting more than 100 rejections from investors, Rob stayed committed to his mission. Today, Dragos protects critical infrastructure around the world and has become one of the defining companies in industrial cybersecurity. ​ This episode isn't simply about building a unicorn or leading a company to a massive exit. It's about building a company around a mission. Rob explains why Dragos exists to "safeguard civilization," why protecting critical infrastructure is fundamentally different from protecting enterprise IT, and why cybersecurity in operational technology is ultimately a public safety problem, not just a business problem. ​ Throughout the conversation, Rob shares candid lessons from building Dragos over the past ten years. We discuss choosing investors, surviving VC rejections, scaling from three founders to more than 600 employees, building a founder-led culture, making difficult executive hiring decisions, expanding internationally, and why Rob believes founders should optimize for long-term mission rather than short-term valuation. ​ We also dive deep into the future of critical infrastructure security. Rob explains how AI is changing operational technology, why cyber warfare is increasingly targeting civilian infrastructure, what keeps him awake at night as geopolitical tensions continue to rise, and why he believes the next generation of cybersecurity founders should pay far more attention to industrial systems than they do today. ​ It’s a fascinating story about a founder who decided to build a mission-driven company instead of trying to optimize for an exit or the next funding round. By doing that, not only has he succeeded in building something lasting, but he also achieved a massive financial outcome.

    1h 2m
  2. Mike Fey: From Symantec to Island and building a $5B category leader

    9 giu

    Mike Fey: From Symantec to Island and building a $5B category leader

    Our guest in this episode is Mike Fey, co-founder and CEO of Island, one of the fastest-growing cybersecurity companies. Founded just five years ago, Island has raised over $700 million in funding, crossed $5 billion valuation, and helped create an entirely new category: the Enterprise Browser. Mike has scaled massive cybersecurity businesses. Over the course of his career, he has served as CTO of Intel Security and President of both Blue Coat and Symantec. Mike played a key role in some of the largest transactions in cybersecurity history, including Intel's $7.7 billion acquisition of McAfee, Symantec's $4.7 billion acquisition of Blue Coat, and Broadcom's $10.7 billion acquisition of Symantec's enterprise business. After decades of leading some of the industry's largest security companies, Mike could have easily become an investor, advisor, or board member. Instead, he decided to start over from scratch. Together with co-founder Dan Amiga, he set out to challenge one of the most entrenched pieces of enterprise software: the browser. At first glance, building a browser company sounded like a terrible startup idea: enterprises already had Chrome, Edge, Safari, and countless security products protecting them. Yet Mike and the Island team believed that the browser was evolving into the primary workspace for modern employees and that whoever controlled the browser could fundamentally rethink security, productivity, and the future of work. On Inside the Network, Mike shares the story behind Island's creation, why he initially rejected the idea before becoming convinced it could become a generational company, and how the team navigated the challenge of convincing enterprises to replace one of the most widely used pieces of software in the world. We discuss category creation, the Innovator's Dilemma, building go-to-market organizations from scratch, fundraising strategy, and the lessons Mike learned from scaling businesses through more than $20 billion worth of acquisitions. He explains why founders often underestimate sales and go-to-market execution, how startups can use incumbents' strengths against them, and why market timing matters more than many entrepreneurs realize. We also dive into the impact of AI on enterprise software and cybersecurity, how AI is reshaping the role of the browser, and why Mike believes the browser will become the front door through which enterprises adopt and operationalize AI.

    1h 6m
  3. Mark McClain: Winning as an incumbent at SailPoint in the age of AI

    12 mag

    Mark McClain: Winning as an incumbent at SailPoint in the age of AI

    This episode of Inside the Network is unique because it is our very first show recorded live on the RSAC 2026 stage in front of security leaders, startup founders, and identity experts. For this episode, we had the privilege of sitting down with one of the most accomplished founders in cybersecurity, founder and CEO of SailPoint, Mark McClain. Cybersecurity is not an easy market to take a company public, and only the most successful founders have the opportunity to take a company public just once. Mark on the other hand has taken the same company public twice. He created the identity governance category from scratch, grew the company into a global identity security leader with more than $1 billion in ARR, over 3,000 employees, and customers across nearly half of the Fortune 500, took it public in 2017, private again with Thoma Bravo in a multi-billion-dollar transaction, and then back to the public markets in 2025. This episode explores one of the biggest questions in cybersecurity today: how do incumbents survive and win in the age of AI?  Mark shares how large cybersecurity companies think about innovation, disruption, and adaptation in a world that’s changing faster than ever before. We discuss whether incumbents can turn scale, distribution, and customer trust into long-term advantages, or whether AI creates the perfect opening for a new generation of startups to challenge established leaders.  Throughout the conversation, Mark reflects on the evolution of identity security from compliance tooling into one of the most critical security control planes in the enterprise. We dive into the rise of non-human and agentic identities, why traditional governance models are breaking under the speed of AI, and how companies like SailPoint are adapting to a world where identities can be ephemeral, autonomous, and operating at machine speed. We also talk about building startups in Austin versus Silicon Valley, lessons from taking the same company public twice, the realities of operating as both a public-company CEO and a founder, and what early-stage founders continue to underestimate about enterprise cybersecurity markets.  In closing, Mark shares candid advice for founders building in cybersecurity today: where startups still have a real edge, what markets are ripe for disruption, and why listening to customers remains the ultimate competitive advantage. You can watch the full video recording of this conversation on-stage at the RSAC 2026 Conference here: Inside the Network Live: Winning as an Incumbent in the Age of AI.

    52 min
  4. Christina Cacioppo: From Y Combinator to redefining trust in cybersecurity with Vanta

    8 apr

    Christina Cacioppo: From Y Combinator to redefining trust in cybersecurity with Vanta

    In this episode of Inside the Network, we sit down with Christina Cacioppo, Co-Founder and CEO of Vanta, the company that defined what is now known as trust management. What began as a scrappy effort to make SOC 2 less painful, has grown into one of the most important platforms in security and compliance.  Christina’s path into cybersecurity was anything but conventional. She started her career in venture capital, and then worked as a product manager at Dropbox, where a frustrating encounter with compliance requirements revealed just how broken security audits were for fast-moving product teams. In our conversation, Christina shares how that painful Dropbox experience led to Vanta, why the company’s earliest product was essentially a spreadsheet rather than software, and how doing things manually helped her team find product-market fit faster. She talks about her process of ideation before landing on the idea, the decision to let word of mouth drive the business forward, what Vanta got out of joining Y Combinator, and why it intentionally avoided raising large rounds of venture capital in the early years.  Christina offers a refreshingly honest look at leadership and scale. She discusses the hard lessons of hiring executives, the importance of defining company principles through real mistakes rather than corporate platitudes, and the challenge of moving upmarket without abandoning the startups that made Vanta successful in the first place. Christina explains how competition changed her perspective on storytelling, why founders cannot let others define their narrative, and how much of company-building is really about learning on real people in real time. This episode is full of hard-earned lessons on conviction, clarity, and the long game of building a multi-billion-dollar company.

    52 min
  5. Sanjay Beri: Playing the long game and building Netskope into a public cybersecurity powerhouse

    2 mar

    Sanjay Beri: Playing the long game and building Netskope into a public cybersecurity powerhouse

    In this episode of Inside the Network, we sit down with Sanjay Beri, Founder and CEO of Netskope, a company that sits at the intersection of AI, data security, and global edge networking. Over thirteen years, Sanjay scaled Netskope to 4,000+ customers (including 30% of the Fortune 100), 3,000+ employees across 30 countries, and ultimately took the company public in September 2025 in one of the year’s standout cybersecurity IPOs. Sanjay’s journey is a masterclass in playing the long game. From growing up in Canada selling door-to-door with his mom, where he learned grit and resilience, to working at Microsoft during the early internet era, to becoming one of Juniper’s youngest VPs running a large business, Sanjay built the rare blend of product, go-to-market, and leadership muscle it takes to build at scale. We talk about the origins of Netskope, why it was never “just a CASB,” how Sanjay recruited world-class early engineers and built a high-trust culture, and what product-market fit looked like in the first chapter of the company. He also breaks down some of Netskope’s biggest bets, including building its own edge cloud instead of relying on public cloud networks, and launching AI Labs years before today’s GenAI wave. Whether you’re building a cyber startup, scaling into the enterprise, or studying what it takes to go from zero to IPO, this episode is packed with hard-earned lessons on conviction, the importance of building a winning culture, and endurance.

    53 min
  6. Dino Boukouris & Sam Bronstein: How AI, identity, and cloud security defined 2025 and what 2026 holds for founders

    14 gen

    Dino Boukouris & Sam Bronstein: How AI, identity, and cloud security defined 2025 and what 2026 holds for founders

    In this special year-end episode of Inside the Network, we’re joined by two of the most trusted strategic advisors in cybersecurity - Dino Boukouris, Managing Partner at Altitude Cyber, and Sam Bronstein, Partner at AXOM Partners. Between them, they’ve worked on billions of dollars in cybersecurity M&A, helped founders navigate exits to the world’s largest tech companies, and advised the CEOs behind some of the biggest public and private deals in the industry.  In this episode, which also happens to be the 20th episode of Inside the Network, we break down what really happened across the cybersecurity landscape in 2025, from customer buying patterns and budget constraints to the $96B in M&A deal volume. Dino and Sam share insights on what’s driving consolidation, how buyers think about valuation and timing, and what defines a hot company in 2026 (hint: it’s not just growth).  We talk about how mega-deals like Wiz and CyberArk are reshaping competitive dynamics in the industry, why SASE, identity, and security for AI have been the most active M&A themes, and what founders need to understand about building relationships with buyers long before they’re ready to exit. Sam and Dino explain that founders who achieve the best outcomes usually build relationships with potential acquirers over many years, and break down why many late-stage founders are likely to choose acquisition over IPO in the coming cycle. We close with tactical advice for founders heading into 2026: how to think about your board and investors, what metrics you’ll be judged on, and how to align your capital strategy with your long-term goals. And yes, we also talk about race cars, zero interest rates, outcome-based pricing, and what Palo Alto Networks might buy next.

    1h 3m
  7. Dean Sysman: Betting on a boring problem and scaling Axonius past $100M ARR

    27/11/2025

    Dean Sysman: Betting on a boring problem and scaling Axonius past $100M ARR

    In this episode of Inside the Network, we sit down with Dean Sysman, co-founder and CEO of Axonius, one of the fastest-growing cybersecurity companies in the world. From struggling with his first startup to building a category-defining unicorn valued at $2.6 billion, Dean’s journey is a raw, insightful, and unfiltered look into what it really takes to build in security. Before founding Axonius, Dean co-founded Cymmetria, a Y Combinator-backed deception startup that despite all the efforts, didn’t end up leading to a successful outcome. That experience didn’t stop him; it made him more grounded, more strategic, and more deliberate. Dean 2.0 didn’t enter a hot market. Instead, he went after a boring but foundational problem everyone had, but no one wanted to touch - cyber asset visibility. In just under five years, Axonius surpassed $100M in ARR and raised over $600 million to fund growth and acquisitions. Dean’s path has been unconventional from the start. He taught himself to code at 12, won an international robotics competition at 15, and led a team in Unit 8200 by 21. In the military, he learned responsibility the hard way: “If you fail, no one else is coming to help.” That mindset became the core of his entrepreneurial approach. In this conversation, Dean opens up about what most people get wrong about Unit 8200, why the army’s bureaucracy actually helped him understand enterprise sales, and how he turned a failed venture into the insight that led to Axonius. We talk about the early days of building Axonius, the decision to go deep into a “Toyota Camry” problem, and how he convinced two close friends from Unit 8200 to bet on a boring idea that became a unicorn. Dean breaks down the evolution of cyber asset management, what it took to define a new category, and why timing and value communication matter more than tech novelty. He also shares lessons from Axonius’ first acquisition, Cynerio, and what founders need to understand about getting M&A right: culture, timing, and strategic alignment matter far more than valuation spreadsheets.

    1h 16m
  8. Tomer Weingarten: From cyber outsider to building SentinelOne into a $1B ARR category leader

    21/10/2025

    Tomer Weingarten: From cyber outsider to building SentinelOne into a $1B ARR category leader

    In this episode of Inside the Network, we sit down with Tomer Weingarten, Co-Founder and CEO of SentinelOne, one of the fastest-growing cybersecurity companies. From writing code and designing the company’s first UI himself, to taking SentinelOne public and crossing $1 billion ARR, Tomer’s journey is a rare combination of technical excellence, grit, and long-term conviction. Tomer didn’t grow up surrounded by startup founders or Silicon Valley mentors. He was raised in a small Israeli town with few resources and found computers as a creative escape. He met his SentinelOne co-founder, Almog Cohen, in second grade, began hacking games as a teenager, and exited his first startup at just 24 making millions of dollars. Then, in an unusual move, he spent all the money to reset, stay grounded and hungry to build something big. That big ambition would become SentinelOne. When SentinelOne launched in 2013, most endpoint vendors were still focusing on signature-based antivirus, and the idea of autonomous, behavior-based prevention powered by AI sounded like science fiction. Tomer wanted to reimagine cyber defense from the ground up. The company’s early traction didn’t come easy, and it took several years of heads-down engineering effort to get to the point when the company signed its first customer and investors stopped being skeptical. Tomer believed the problem wasn’t being solved deeply enough, and he stayed patient while the market caught up. Tomer shares how he navigated the “wartime CEO” moments like fighting off rivals with 10 times the budget, managing internal politics, and surviving near-death moments during fundraising. He reflects on how leadership styles evolve under pressure, and how the discipline of writing down decisions helped him become a better CEO. He also breaks down how founders confuse early ARR with true product-market fit, and why most security companies today are in his opinion workflow wrappers, not tech companies. We also explore Tomer’s views on the LLM hype cycle and why he believes most of the AI noise in cybersecurity today is more marketing than the actual deep tech. Tomer believes that true moat lies in foundational models trained on real, curated telemetry, and in solving hard tech problems, not just ChatGPT integration. This episode is a deeply personal look at what it takes to build enduring companies in cybersecurity. This is one of our most honest, unfiltered founder conversations, and if you care about the art of company-building, you won’t want to miss it.

    1h 11m
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Welcome to the inside track of cybersecurity entrepreneurship. We bring you the best founders, operators, and investors building the future of cybersecurity.

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  • Creatore
    Inside the Network Pod
  • Anni di attività
    2024 - 2026
  • Puntate
    25
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    Inside the Network

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