A note for listeners: This episode discusses a real, publicly documented Department of Justice case (United States ex rel. Sullivan v. Informatica Corp.) that resulted in a settlement. Some claims in the recording about individual executives' knowledge or motives, and about political influence on the case, reflect the guest's personal opinions and interpretation, not facts verified by Healthy Mind by Avik™ Everyone loves talking about solving problems, efficiency, the perfect system. What gets talked about far less is what happens when the system itself becomes the problem, and someone inside has to decide whether to stay quiet or speak up. Sana sits down with Bill Sullivan, a nearly three-decade enterprise technology executive, to talk about discovering serious pricing fraud at a former employer, choosing to report it, and what that decision actually cost him. Bill walks through his path across IBM, PeopleSoft, SAP, and other major tech companies, what it felt like to have a company attorney confirm a practice was illegal, and why he built his book around lessons for others rather than a victim narrative. About the Guest: William "Bill" Sullivan is a nearly 30-year enterprise technology sales and turnaround executive who held senior public sector leadership roles at IBM, PeopleSoft, SAP, Lockheed Martin, Cloudera, Informatica, Inovalon, and AWS, generating over a billion dollars in sales across his career. He is the whistleblower in United States ex rel. Sullivan v. Informatica Corp., a Department of Justice False Claims Act case that resulted in a $21.57 million settlement in 2019 over Informatica's government pricing disclosures. He is the author of It Used to Be Fun: A Software Executive's Experience as a Federal Whistleblower. Key Takeaways: Reporting serious wrongdoing can carry a real professional cost even when you're proven right, in Bill's case it made it harder to get hired at each subsequent job while the underlying case stayed under seal for yearsIf your company's own legal counsel confirms a practice is illegal, that removes the ambiguity, the decision becomes about compliance, not a personal judgment callBuilding integrity into a company process, like detailed compliance checklists for government contracts, can make ethical behavior feel routine rather than exceptionalIf you're facing a potential ethics issue at work, most companies have an internal ethics hotline, raising the issue doesn't have to be accusatory, it gives the company a chance to fix the problemA whistleblower case can remain under seal for years, meaning you may not be able to discuss it with family, friends, or future employers during that period, which adds a distinct kind of personal strain Connect With the Guest: Book: It Used to Be Fun: A Software Executive's Experience as a Federal Whistleblower (available on Amazon, Goodreads, Barnes & Noble, and Kindle) Episode Chapters: [00:00] When the System Itself Becomes the Problem [01:56] Meet Bill Sullivan, Three Decades in Enterprise Tech [02:21] From Mainframes to Turnarounds: Building a Career at IBM, PeopleSoft, and SAP [16:55] Discovering the Pricing Issue, and Why He Couldn't Stay Silent [24:39] Does Tech Culture Engineer Its Way Around Ethics? 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