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Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes
  • 4.6 (24)
  • HEALTH & FITNESS
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Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.

  1. 3D AGO · BONUS • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    February Bonus: The Diet Creeps Who Say Air Is Food

    Do humans need food to survive? The answer won't surprise you! This month, Mike walks Aubrey through the dark history of self-proclaimed "breatharians" from the US, Australia and India.

    1h 3m

  2. FEB 12

    The Diet Crimes of Metabolife

    The rags-to-riches tale of how an illegal methamphetamine manufacturer became a legal methamphetamine manufacturer. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other podcastGet Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and moreLinks! How the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 Weakened the FDAMad About MetabolifeStimulant Propels Diet EmpireThe dangers of the herb ephedra - Harvard Health An Historical Review of Steps and Missteps in the Discovery of Anti-Obesity Drugs Weight Loss the Herbal Way: No All-Natural Silver BulletOver-the-Counter-Strategy - The Washington Post Anxious Pill-Maker Puts ABC Interview on the WebA 'Neutral' Comment, a Company's Tough ReactionMetabolife Intern., Inc. v. Wornick (S.D. Cal. 1999) Ephedra hearings in the US House of Representatives Expert Panel Finds Flaws In Diet Pill Safety StudyLetter Urging a Criminal Investigation of Metabolife - Public Citizen Perspective; Regulation of Dietary Drugs Is Long OverdueNo Limit, for Now, on a Dieting SupplementU.S. Bans Dietary Supplement Linked to Number of DeathsThanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support the show

    57 min

  3. JAN 30 · BONUS • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    January Bonus: New Year, New Food Pyramid

    While the Trump administration continues to set new personal bests for monstrosity, RFK Jr sets a new personal best for nonsense. This month, we're digging in on his latest drop, the TOTALLY NEW food pyramid.

    1h 2m

  4. 12/31/2025 · BONUS • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    The 2025 Grifties!

    Just in time for the griftiest season (new year, new you!!), it's THE 2025 GRIFTIES! Your resident grifter sifters are digging in on SkinnyTok, smart toilets and smaller portions for women and short kings. This episode is NOT end-to-end encrypted.

    1h 10m

  5. 12/15/2025 · BONUS • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    November Bonus: Diet Scams!

    Diets are often grifts, but some are straight up scams. This month, Mike and Aubrey are digging in on a few majorly gutsy diet cons: VISION DIETER GLASSES, THE iPANT, and THE KIMKINS DIET. We're so sorry this one has been delayed! Aubrey has been out dealing with a death in the family. Thank you all once again for being so kind & gracious.

    49 min

  6. 11/13/2025

    Raw Milk

    Once widely banned, raw milk consumption is on the rise and states are repealing their bans. No one’s happier about that than the far right. How did we get here? NOTE: In the retelling of Pasteur’s early pasteurization, Aubrey misspoke! The culprit wasn’t lactic yeast, it was lactic acid bacteria. Sorry for the slip up! Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other podcastGet Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and moreLinks! Milk!: A 10,000 Year Food FracasU.S. Consumer surveyThe Effects of Pasteurization on VitaminsLingering Heat over Pasteurized MilkHow pasteurization improves safetySwill-Milk and Infant MortalityAlta Dena (Court case 1, Court case 2, Alta Dena's raw milk history)A Raw Milk Magnate Has Spent Years Fighting Public Health AgenciesShould This Milk Be Legal?The Amish farmer who ignited outrage over raw milkWhy Are People Promoting Raw Milk? The Quest for Raw MilkSome Raw Truths About Raw MilkRight Wing Commentators Are Pushing MisinformationHow Raw Milk Went From Hippie to MAGA Here's why raw milk drinkers need to be concerned about bird fluInfluencers promote raw milk Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support the show

    1h 6m

  7. 10/30/2025 · BONUS • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    October Bonus: Happy Birthday, Us!

    We're five! To celebrate we opened the mailbag to look back on how wellness (and we) have changed since we launched this show in October of 2020.

    48 min

  8. 09/29/2025 · BONUS • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    September Bonus: Checking in on MAHA, Kratom and Jillian Michaels

    This month we're walking through some recent news stories! RFK Jr. is making kids healthy again (we recorded this before the "Tylenol causes autism" madness so we'll have to cover that next roundup); Kratom is in a weird semi-regulated grey area; and Jillian Michaels is branching out from abusing fat people to abusing Americans' understanding of history.

    56 min
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Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.

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  • Creator
    Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2026
  • Episodes
    146
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Maintenance Phase
  • Show Website
    Maintenance Phase
  • Provider
    Positive Moves LLC

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