Unchained

Laura Shin
Unchained

Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world. Disclosure: I'm a nocoiner.

  1. 23 HR. AGO

    How New Stablecoin Startup Bridge Got Acquired by Stripe for $1.1 Billion

    In October, the crypto industry saw a jaw-dropping acquisition: Bridge, a stablecoin-focused company, was bought by Web2 payments giant Stripe for $1.1 billion. Now, three months later, Bridge co-founder Zach Abrams opens up about the wild journey that led to this moment, from navigating collapses like Terra’s UST and USDC’s depegging, to securing compliance and fraud prevention as core priorities. Zach also delves into his vision for the future of stablecoins, whether the U.S. dollar will continue to dominate, and why global financial infrastructure needs an upgrade. Plus, he recounts how timing and resilience helped Bridge stand out amidst massive industry challenges. Show highlights: 01:49The problems of the payments system and how stablecoins could solve them 13:35 What Bridge is, how it works and what types of consumers it serves 19:33 What significant inconveniences Bridge found throughout its journey 25:56 How Zach’s background in Coinbase influenced the launch of Bridge 30:20 Whether there will be multiple stablecoins or just a couple of winners 33:49 How Bridge worked with their customers to improve its product 39:35 The story of how Bridge was acquired by Stripe for $1.1 billion 46:37 Whether its dependence on banks is a problem for Bridge 53:02 How Bridge deals with fraud and compliance  59:50 What Zach thinks about the competition in the stablecoin landscape 1:04:37 Why Zach believes that the fiat infrastructure landscape is still Bridge’s main competitor 1:10:08 Whether the U.S. dollar will remain the overwhelmingly predominant currency in stablecoins Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Stellar Build Better Polkadot Guest: Zach Abrams, Co-founder of Bridge Links Recent coverage of Unchained on stablecoins: How This Stablecoin Business in Africa Is Taking on SWIFT and Big Banks Why Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev Is Betting Big on Crypto, Stablecoins, and Prediction Markets CNBC: Stripe's $1.1 billion deal for crypto firm Bridge marks much-needed win for VCs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 16m
  2. 5 DAYS AGO

    Why Travis Kling Thinks Not Looking at AI Agents Would Be 'a Big Mistake'

    It’s been a tough week for the markets, with bitcoin gyrating from $102,400 to $92,000.  Travis Kling, CIO of Ikigai Asset Management, shares his thoughts on the selloff, whether this market dip is a cause for alarm, and how macro factors like the Fed’s rate policy and ETF dynamics are shaping the landscape.  Plus, he dives into the explosive growth of AI agents and why crypto investors should start paying attention to this new frontier. Could AI agents revolutionize crypto, or are we witnessing another bubble? Show highlights: 01:49 Why Travis believes this market selloff was “abnormal” 04:31 Whether he thinks the DOJ will sell Silk Road’s $6 billion worth of BTC from Silk Road 07:36 Why Travis is supportive of a US bitcoin strategic reserve 17:15 Why inflation and policy shifts might keep Fed rates steady 22:30 What explains the significant outflows from bitcoin spot ETFs on Wednesday 24:37 Whether Travis thinks the AI agent rise is a bubble  Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Stellar Build Better Polkadot Guest Travis Kling, Chief Investment Officer of Ikigai Asset Management Previous appearances on Unchained:  With Rate Cuts and Upcoming Elections, What’s the Best Play in Crypto? With the Merge, Will Ethereum Take Over Bitcoin’s Title as Digital Gold Links Previous coverage of Unchained on AI agents: 2025 Will Be a Year of Crypto Competition. Can Ethereum Make a Comeback? With AI Agents Now Trading Crypto, What Does Their Future Look Like? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    45 min
  3. 5 DAYS AGO

    The Chopping Block: Debanking Drama, Crowdsales, and the Future of Crypto Regulation

    Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. In this episode, the crew dives deep into the FDIC’s alleged vendetta against crypto, whistleblower revelations, and the evolving dynamics of token distribution on platforms like Echo. Plus, we analyze the rise of crowdsales, explore the intersection of policy and crypto innovation, and reflect on our 2024 podcast stats with some friendly competition.  Show highlights 🔹 FDIC Scandal Unveiled: The panel discusses the whistleblower claims against the FDIC, allegations of a vendetta against the crypto industry, and the fallout from newly unredacted FOIA documents. 🔹 Echo Crowdsale Platform: A deep dive into Echo’s rise as a preferred crowdsale platform, its competition with CoinList, and its innovative token distribution model. 🔹 Regulators Under Scrutiny: Insights into systemic issues within regulatory agencies like the FDIC and parallels drawn with other organizations like the FTC. 🔹 VC Sentiment and Crowdsales: The crew explores the tension between venture capitalists and crowdsale platforms, examining fairness, community building, and strategic distribution. 🔹 KOL Rounds vs. Community Fairness: A comparison of KOL rounds and Echo’s syndicate model in balancing fairness and hype in token distribution. 🔹 Token Distribution Dynamics: Analysis of how platforms like Echo incentivize participation and create new avenues for community engagement. 🔹 2024 Podcast Stats Recap: Fun insights into which hosts spoke the most, used the most filler words, and referenced Ethereum, Solana, or Bitcoin the most in 2024. 🔹 Predictions in Review: Early check-ins on 2025 predictions and how trends like DeSci and crowdsales are already shaping the year. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    45 min
  4. 6 DAYS AGO

    Bits + Bips: Trump Will Soon Be President. Where Will Bitcoin and Crypto Prices Go?

    Bitcoin crossed the $100,000 mark, only to slump back down on Tuesday, sparking debates about what’s next for the crypto markets. In this episode, James Seyffart and Alex Kruger are joined by Charles Edwards of quant fund Capriole Investments to break down the macro trends shaping Bitcoin’s trajectory. From Trump’s inauguration to the Fed’s looming decisions on quantitative tightening, they analyze the key factors influencing risk assets. Plus, they unpack the premium on MicroStrategy’s BTC holdings, the future of AI agents in crypto and whether AI agent swarms might someday hire humans, and their bold predictions —supercycle? SOL ETFs?—for 2025. Show highlights: 01:54 Why bitcoin broke the $100K level again 07:28 How the markets will react to the inauguration of Donald Trump as President 19:09 What factors will affect the Fed’s next decision on rates 26:38 What the premium of MSTR to its BTC holdings should be 34:37 Why they all hate the current version of AI agents 43:19 Why Charles likes Ethena and ENA 45:49 Alex’s and Charles’ thoughts on what to expect in 2025: supercycle incoming? 50:01 Alex’s analysis on the market corrections and what they teach us 57:34 Whether James believes the spot Solana ETF will be approved this year Hosts: James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard Guest: Charles Edwards, founder of Capriole Investments  Links Capriole Investments | Update #58 MicroStrategy just bought another $100m in Bitcoin on path to $2bn spree – DL News With AI Agents Now Trading Crypto, What Does Their Future Look Like? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 2m
  5. JAN 7

    2025 Will Be a Year of Crypto Competition. Can Ethereum Make a Comeback?

    Ethereum, once the undisputed leader in the smart contract ecosystem, is facing intense competition from Solana, which has outpaced Ethereum on key metrics such as developer growth. Meanwhile, debates rage within Ethereum’s community over governance, scalability, and the Ethereum Foundation’s leadership. Adding to the disruption, AI agents are rapidly reshaping DeFi and token launches, reducing barriers to entry and creating new opportunities—and risks—for founders and investors. Is this the next big leap for crypto or just the latest bubble? In this episode, Marc Zeller of Aave Chan Initiative and Kain Warwick of Infinex discuss Ethereum’s future, the role of AI in DeFi, and whether Solana’s momentum will continue. They also share bold predictions for crypto in 2025 and debate whether Ethereum’s fragmented ecosystem can still deliver on its promise. Show highlights: 03:35 Why 2024 became a turning point for the crypto ecosystem 07:02 How AI agents could reshape onchain innovation and public discourse in 2025 14:47 Whether AI agents might soon compete with VCs 22:10 Why fundamentals-driven crypto projects will gradually dominate the market, according to Marc 26:05 Whether Solana will continue to steal Ethereum’s thunder 37:56 Is Base cannibalistic to Ethereum? Can Base or Ethereum compete with Solana? 42:53 Where the ETH ecosystem is headed and whether it can overcome issues of fragmentation, lack or interoperability, so many L2 tokens detracting from the ETH price 52:30 Whether Coinbase's deep commitment to Ethereum is causing it to discriminate against Solana 1:00:10 How Ethereum's reputation rises and falls with its price action, not its fundamentals, per Kain 1:08:43 What the purpose is of the Ethereum Foundation and whether it should change its approach 1:24:57 Why Kain doesn’t think the native rollups proposal is tenable  1:31:12 Whether Ethena is depressing the price of ETH 1:34:00 What Kain and Marc think about crypto-specific phones, especially the Solana Seeker 1:42:07 Kain’s and Marc’s predictions for 2025 Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Stellar Build Better  Robinhood & Arbitrum Kelp DAO Polkadot Guests: Marc Zeller, founder of Aave Chan Initiative Kain Warwick, founder of Infinex Links Unchained: Why Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev Is Betting Big on Crypto and Stablecoins Unchained: 2024 Was Solana's Best Year Yet. Can It Sustain the Momentum in 2025? Unchained: What's the Best Way for Ethereum to Grow? Two Ethereans Debate The Block: Long-running Ethereum newsletter shutting down, cites lack of funding Unchained: How Solana Beat Out Ethereum to Nab New Crypto Developers in 2024 Evan Van Ness’ tweet on the newsletter shutdown  EF’s Josh Stark’s reply to Van Ness Unchained: Vitalik Has Gone 'Founder Mode.' Is This Just What Ethereum Needs? Marc’s proposal about the EF  0xMawuko’s tweet on ETH governance  Unchained: Are Layer 2s Failing Ethereum? A New Proposal Advocates for Native L2s Ben Lilly’s tweet on Ethena possibly suppressing the price of ETH Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 49m
  6. JAN 4

    The Chopping Block: Scarcity vs. Abundance, AI’s Crypto Role, and Virtuals

    Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. In this episode, the crew is joined by special guest Jansen, co-founder of Virtuals, the leading AI agent launchpad. Together, they dive into the $5 billion Virtuals craze, explore the explosive rise of tokenized AI agents like AIXBT, and debate how AI is reshaping DeFi and blockchain. From the clash between scarcity and abundance to the emergence of agentic societies and decentralized economies, this episode unpacks the key trends driving the next phase of crypto innovation. Show highlights 🔹 AI and Crypto Convergence: The panel explores how AI agents are revolutionizing blockchain, tokenomics, and decentralized finance (DeFi). 🔹 Virtuals AI Launchpad: Jansen discusses Virtuals, a platform for tokenizing and crowdfunding AI-driven blockchain agents. 🔹 Autonomous AI Evolution: The rise of AI agents from basic chatbots to self-improving tools for crypto and DeFi applications. 🔹 Tokenized AI Agents: How agents like AIXBT generate revenue through trading, attention, and blockchain commerce. 🔹 Managing AI Risks: Insights into policy-based wallets and infrastructure to mitigate risks in autonomous crypto agents. 🔹 Decentralized Agent Societies: A vision for specialized AI agents collaborating in blockchain ecosystems. 🔹 Scarcity vs. Abundance in Crypto: Contrasting crypto’s scarcity-driven models with AI’s abundance and economic disruption. 🔹 AI Agent Backlash: Predictions of anti-AI sentiment as agents dominate Crypto Twitter and online communities. 🔹 Blockchain Verifiability: The role of cryptographic proofs in ensuring trust and security in AI-driven tokenized economies. 🔹 Future of AI in Crypto: Debates on sustainable applications for AI agents in trading, DeFi, and digital economies. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly  ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures Special Guest ⭐️Jansen Teng, Co-Founder and CEO of Virtuals Protocol Disclosures Timestamps  00:00 Intro 02:19 What Are AI Agents? 07:23 AI Agents in Crypto 13:04 AI-Driven Societies Emerge 15:53 Challenges of AI Agents 24:47 Tokenizing AI Revenue Models 35:13 AI Crypto Predictions 43:26 AI Influencers and Trust 53:54 Perception of AI Content 01:04:44 Humans vs. AI Roles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 7m
  7. JAN 3

    With AI Agents Now Trading Crypto, What Does Their Future Look Like?

    In this episode, Shaw Walters, founder of Eliza Labs, takes us through his journey of launching ai16z, a decentralized AI-driven investment DAO, and the explosive growth of the Eliza open-source framework. Shaw explains how AI agents are evolving beyond "reply bots" to serve as powerful tools for financial autonomy, community investment, and user empowerment. He shares the challenges of building trust between humans and AI, the possibilities of agents trading across multiple blockchains, and his vision of a world where financial freedom drives human progress. Show highlights: Why Shaw decided to launch ai16z What he believes AI agents are useful for  What the Eliza framework is and the role it plays being an open-source project Whether AI agents can be good at trading Why the Eliza framework works on every chain, even though there’s a focus on Solana How and why the AI version of Marc Andreessen was launched Whether ai16z will launch its own layer 1 and the details on the future launchpad How agents on social media could be really useful instead of being “reply bots” What Shaw thinks overall of the AI space and how it’ll impact human society Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Kelp DAO Guest Shaw Walters, Founder of Eliza Labs Links Unchained:  The Backstory of How 3 AI Agents Led to the Rise of the Hottest Memecoin, GOAT AI Meme Tokens Like FARTCOIN Dominate Crypto Markets, Suggesting Powerful 2025 Trend The Block: AI agent platform ai16z considers tokenomics overhaul and launching Layer 1 blockchain Chain of Thought: Ai16z: The Bazaar of Agents Cygaar: How the Eliza Framework works Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 03:01 Shaw’s inspiration for launching ai16z 08:45 How AI agents are evolving beyond simple tasks 10:28 The Eliza framework and its open-source impact 13:22 Can AI agents excel at trading? 21:19 Why Eliza works seamlessly across multiple blockchains 24:08 The story behind launching Marc Andreessen as an AI character 35:18 Plans for ai16z’s layer 1 and its future launchpad 40:23 Transforming AI agents into more than just “reply bots” 43:26 Shaw’s vision for AI’s role in shaping human society 49:26 Crypto News Recap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1 hr
  8. 12/31/2024

    2024 Was Full of Fascinating Crypto News. Here Are Its Top Moments

    2024 was nothing short of transformative for the crypto world. From bitcoin’s relentless climb amidst macroeconomic shifts to Solana’s continued rise amidst meme coin mania, this year saw narratives unfold that no one could have predicted.  In this special episode that has become a tradition at Unchained, Laura revisits the biggest moments of the year, featuring insightful clips from the standout guests who joined Unchained and Bits + Bips in 2024. Whether it was further institutional adoption, debates over decentralization, the victory over Gary Genser’s regulation by enforcement strategy, or the taking off of AI agents, this year marked a turning point for crypto. Tune in for a reflective journey through the year that was—and a glimpse of what lies ahead in 2025. Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Robinhood & Arbitrum Highlights and Timestamps: 03:15 | Matt Hougan on the significance of spot bitcoin ETFs 04:31 | Jesse Pollak explains the impact of Ethereum’s Dencun upgrade 05:43 | Eric Balchunas on the rapid adoption of bitcoin ETFs 07:53 | Kyle Davies reflects on 3AC’s collapse 10:11 | Carlos Domingo discusses BlackRock’s BUIDL fund 11:13 | Sam Enzer on the reasoning behind SBF’s sentencing 13:04 | Arthur Hayes debates the potential of a bitcoin supercycle 15:44 | Ansem breaks down the memecoin craze 16:42 | Eric Balchunas and Matt Hougan on ether ETF approval 18:18 | James Seyffart on SEC politics and ETF decisions 19:51 | Laura Brookover on the end of the Ethereum 2.0 probe 21:08 | Bryan Pellegrino on tackling Sybil attacks with LayerZero 23:42 | Iggy Azalea on her fascination with memecoins 24:31 | Joe McCann on how the assassination attempt influenced Trump’s win 25:47 | Ro Khanna on the democratic party’s stance on crypto 26:44 | George Selgin critiques a U.S. bitcoin reserve proposal 28:35 | Nick Tomaino on the truth-finding power of prediction markets 29:50 | Jack Booth on TON’s viral growth strategies 31:58 | Jeff Dorman on why the ETH sell-off was a buying opportunity 32:29 | Caitlin Long and Michelle Kallen on their lawsuit against the Fed 33:52 | Justin Bons on why layer 2s might be parasitic to Ethereum 35:13 | Taylor Monahan on how North Koreans infiltrated crypto companies 36:42 | Taylor Monahan recounts a failed North Korean job interview 39:13 | Teng Yan on how truth terminal redefined AI and crypto 40:36 | Ryan Salame on DOJ dealings and his guilty plea 42:40 | Alex Kruger on Trump’s election and its crypto impact 43:44 | Jeff Park on Uniswap and Solana’s post-election gains 44:57 | Faryar Shirzad on the success of the FairShake PAC 46:15 | Eric Balchunas on the importance of bitcoin ETF options 47:26 | Cody Carbone on Paul Atkins’ nomination as SEC chair 48:19 | Mike Selig on David Sacks as crypto and AI czar 49:27 | French Hill on token standards under FIT21 50:33 | Maria Shen on Solana’s rise in new developer activity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    53 min

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Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world. Disclosure: I'm a nocoiner.

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