The How Things Grow Podcast

Shamanth Rao

How Things Grow is a podcast about, well, how things grow.Each episode features an interview with one of the leading growth practitioners, entrepreneurs, experts or historians in the world today. Host Shamanth Rao talks to these amazing people about the growth trajectories of some of the companies, trends or economic systems that absolutely took off - either in recent times or way back in the past.

  1. 03/02/2020

    The rise of remote work – with Liam Martin (Co-Founder of TimeDoctor & Co-Organizer at Running Remote)

    My guest today is Liam Martin - and this is a conversation about a topic that is near & dear to my heart - remote work. Liam is one of the world’s foremost experts on remote work, having started a remote-only company more than a decade before it became cool to do so. He founded Time Doctor and Staff.com, doing some tremendously impactful work around productivity for remote work before founding the Running Remote conference, a real-life, non-remote conference about remote work. Liam has seen remote work up close from its earliest days - and has also seen nearly everything there is to be seen around remote work - be it culture, tracking, productivity and growth - and this is a conversation that I’m very excited to have. Key Highlights: How remote work was referred to 15 years ago - and how it’s changing.Why Liam chose remote work as a model for his business - and how he solved problems that are currently solved by tools like Zoom and Slack.What Liam recommends as the first step for a small company that is considering going remote - and the resources he recommends. Why measurement is crucial for a remote company.How Liam recommends setting up a remote culture for a team that is new to itHow Liam recommends approaching hiring in a remote context - and what he screens and filters for.How a remote team’s infrastructure & processes have to change as a team grows.The HR process that Liam’s team has built to ensure retention. The different compensation policies that are available to remote companies.What inspired the Running Remote conference - and how Liam attracted speakers and attendees for its first edition. Check out the full transcript and show notes here: https://howthingsgrow.co/the-rise-of-remote-work-with-liam-martin-co-founder-of-timedoctor-co-organizer-in-running-remote/ ** Get more goodies here: http://MobileUserAcquisitionShow.com http://RocketShipHQ.com http://RocketShipHQ.com/blog

    48 min
  2. 02/01/2020

    How to trigger massive career shifts by following your curiosity - with Hila Qu(former VP of Growth at Acorns)

    My guest today is Hila Qu. Hila is the former VP of growth at Acorns - and there are very many reasons I’ve so admired her work. Hila had a background in biology - and with nothing in her background that was relevant to growth, she started work at GrowthHackers, where she not only picked up the methodology of growth from Sean Ellis but also became very very proficient at experiment-driven growth. She wrote the series of articles ‘A growth practitioner’s 90 day plan’, which she herself used for her job search after GrowthHackers. She began working on experiments and retention at Acorns - and in a few years grew to be the VP of growth. In this interview, Hila talks not only about the pivotal moments in her career but also breaks down how she’s followed her curiosity and sought out challenges - and how this has always helped her break into spaces or positions where she’s started off being almost an outsider. KEY HIGHLIGHTS What inspired Hila to start working at GrowthHackers.com – and what they saw in her.Some of the things Hila learnt about growth that were essentially life principles. How Hila developed a mental model for career growth from working with Sean Ellis. What inspired Hila’s article “A growth practitioner’s first 90-day plan.”How Hila evaluated Acorns to see if they would be open to growth ideas and processes even though they didn’t have any.How Hila started introducing her ideas – and went after early wins. The two directions Hila recommends thinking around for getting early wins. What Hila’s learning plan looked like.What Hila’s day is structured like – at GrowthHackers and Acorns.How Hila accessed leadership positions at Acorns. How Hila learnt the ’science’ of leadership.How Hila picked KPIs around her personal OKR of being 20% tougher.Check out the full transcript and show notes here: https://howthingsgrow.co/how-to-trigger-massive-career-shifts-by-following-your-curiosity-with-hila-quformer-vp-of-growth-at-acorns/ ** Get more goodies here: http://MobileUserAcquisitionShow.com http://RocketShipHQ.com http://RocketShipHQ.com/blog

    1 hr
  3. 12/12/2019

    How to launch a long-form journalism publication in an era of diminishing attention spans - with Noah Rosenberg (CEO at Narratively)

    My guest today is Noah Rosenberg, the founder and CEO of Narratively. Narratively is a publication that I’ve both written for - and have been very very impressed by for some of the pioneering work they’ve done. Narratively very much defined a niche for themselves in pioneering long-form human interest journalism in an age of diminishing attention spans. They not only continued to bring out original long-form stories - but also developed a unique monetization model of a content studio that has helped them thrive in an age when many journalism outlets are facing existential challenges. In this interview we dive into Noah’s journey from being a journalist to a journalism platform creator, talk about how he validated and launched Narratively, what drives audience growth for long-form articles, how Narratively’s unique monetization model has helped both keep it ad-free and allowed its writers to make good money. This interview presents lessons that apply for far beyond long-form journalism - and I’m excited to share this with you today. KEY HIGHLIGHTS Noah’s early career as a journalist – and how he was drawn to larger human interest stories & underreported themes during his work in Queens and in South Africa.The sort of market research that Noah did to validate his idea of a human interest publication – and the response they got to Narratively on Kickstarter.How Narratively transitioned from being a New York focused publication to being global.How Narratively planned to use the $53k that it had raised in its Kickstarter campaign.Why Narratively didn’t adopt the subscription model or an ad supported model.How Narratively’s partnership with Warner Brothers materialized.How Narratively thinks about the relationship between its branded content side and its editorial side.How stories on Narratively.com get traffic.Why Narratively had challenges raising funding.Check out the full transcript and show notes here: https://howthingsgrow.co/how-to-launch-a-long-form-journalism-publication-in-an-era-of-diminishing-attention-spans-with-noah-rosenberg-ceo-at-narratively/ ** Get more goodies here: http://MobileUserAcquisitionShow.com http://RocketShipHQ.com http://RocketShipHQ.com/blog

    52 min
  4. 27/11/2019

    How to blow up a party - with Jabari Johnson (Founder at COLORS Worldwide)

    My guest today is Jabari Johnson, the founder of COLORS Worldwide, a live events company that produces parties and music events across 45 cities in the United States. This is a fascinating conversation - both for Jabari’s personal story as well as for his insights on scaling a live event and filling up rooms and halls - at scale. From his earliest days when he hustled to interview stars like Nicki Minaj and Justin Bieber before they became famous to how he thoughtfully considers pricing and marketing decisions for COLORS and R&B Only, Jabari’s work provides a fascinating window into how it’s absolutely possible to run top-notch fun events - at scale. KEY HIGHLIGHTS How Jabari’s Youtube videos got him his first job.How Jabari would spread the word about his Youtube videos on his college campus, and how he made some of these videos viral.How Jabari’s experiences on the road led to his first business COLORS – and what his first parties were like.How Jabari filled up the room with 200-300 people by using TwitPic to build social proof for their event’s pics.Why Jabari wasn’t charging money for his early events.How it became evident to Jabari that these parties and events could be a scaled business – and how he learned to delegate & grow his team.Check out the full transcript and show notes here: https://howthingsgrow.co/how-to-blow-up-a-party-with-jabari-johnson-founder-at-colors-worldwide/ ** Get more goodies here: http://MobileUserAcquisitionShow.com http://RocketShipHQ.com http://RocketShipHQ.com/blog

    52 min
  5. 11/11/2019

    How hypercasual games took over the appstores - with Jon Hook(CRO at Homa Games).

    My guest today is Jon Hook, the CRO of Homa Games, the publishers behind hit hypercasual games like Tower Color, Tiny Cars, Balls vs. Lasers - and more. Jon has held a myriad of roles in mobile marketing before Homa - including being a co-founder of the mobile marketing agency Odyssey Mobile, the Head of Mobile & Digital Investment at MediaCom - and VP EMEA for Brand and Agencies at AdColony.  In today’s interview, we dive into the fascinating world of hypercasual games. If you’ve even casually followed the appstores over the last few years, you’ll have seen seemingly simplistic games like Helix Jump, Tiny Cars - and others at the top of the appstore charts. What is as astounding as these games’ ascent is their staying power. In this interview, Jon talks about the rise of the hypercasual phenomenon, the drivers & forces powering it, what lies ahead - and offers some fascinating insights into one of the more unexpected occupants of the appstores today. KEY HIGHLIGHTS What are some of the characteristics of hyper-casual and what the hit recipe for hyper-casual games is.What factors have accelerated the emergence of hyper-casual games in recent years.How Jon started paying attention to the hypercasual space – and when he realized this wasn’t a fad.Why user acquisition and monetization are run by the same teams in hyper-casual games.What some of the common mistakes made by hypercasual developers are – and what some of the easy fixes are.What some of the challenges with using programmatic for hyper-casual games are.Why hypercasual can be a mass marketing channel. Check out the full transcript and show notes here: https://howthingsgrow.co/how-hyper-casual-games-took-over-the-app-stores-with-jon-hookcro-at-homa-games/ ** Get more goodies here: http://MobileUserAcquisitionShow.com http://RocketShipHQ.com http://RocketShipHQ.com/blog

    55 min
  6. 28/10/2019

    How to grow a growth education business - with Brian Balfour(CEO at Reforge)

    My guest today is Brian Balfour - and there could be no one better than Brian to kick off the third season of How Things Grow.  Brian is seen as one of the most influential people in growth today - he has to his credit some truly astounding accomplishments in growth. He started his career building a social networking site for college students. He then founded a digital goods company & subsequently an ed-tech company. After this, he became the VP of Growth at Hubspot, overseeing & systematizing some tremendous growth that had been driven, astonishingly, by content. It was during this phase that he started writing his very popular blog. He started what was then a side project called ‘Silicon Valley Business Review’ with Andrew Chen. The Silicon Valley Business Review has since grown into Reforge, which is now a definitive source of education around growth for experienced professionals. In this fascinating conversation, Brian not only talks about his own experiences but also dives into how Reforge is changing how education around growth is imparted today, and is redefining many traditional paradigms of executive education. What I find truly astounding is how Brian applies growth frameworks and loops to Reforge’s business. He breaks down how these growth loops are applicable to Reforge - in a section that I find very very instructive.  This is very much a masterclass on growth - one taught by the very best in the business. KEY HIGHLIGHTS Why getting an external unbiased coach was the most important thing that Brian did in his career.What Brian’s experience was as a founder of an early social network – and subsequently as a founder of a digital goods company & then of an ed-tech company.Why Brian began to write – and the benefits he got from his own writingHow Hubspot’s content strategy was one of the key drivers behind their IPOThe gap that Brian noticed when doing 1:1s for his team and having to look up recommendations for professional development – and the side project it inspired – the ’Silicon Valley Business Review’.Is Reforge a ’service’ company or a ‘product’ company? Are its live experiences antithetical to scale?How Reforge selects people for ‘fit’, even if it means saying no to short term revenue.How growth loops apply to Reforge’s business. Check out the full transcript and show notes here: https://howthingsgrow.co/how-to-grow-a-growth-education-business-with-brian-balfour/ ** Get more goodies here: http://MobileUserAcquisitionShow.com http://RocketShipHQ.com http://RocketShipHQ.com/blog

    57 min
  7. 25/10/2019

    Season 3 of How Things Grow is coming soon!

    I’m very excited to present to you the third season of How Things Grow! Thank you so much for the kind words, ratings and reviews for the episodes so far. As you perhaps know, each episode is a labor of love - and every rating and review matters a ton. If you’re new here, How Things Grow tells the stories of the people who help companies, technologies and economic systems take off.  Each episode features an interview with one of the leading growth practitioners, entrepreneurs, or experts or historians in the world.    In this season, you’ll hear the story of how this growth leader applied growth principles to advanced career education, the story of how a company hosting parties grew dramatically, about how hyper casual games are taking over our phone screens, how a long form journalism startup carved out a niche for itself in an age of diminishing attention spans - and so many other stories that are coming up in the new season of How Things Grow.  If you get any joy and pleasure from these episodes, please subscribe to How Things Grow on iTunes, Stitcher, Overcast - or wherever else you get your podcast fix. Please also consider leaving a review, for this is very much a labor of love. I hope you enjoy listening to the show as much as I’ve enjoyed putting it together. I look forward to presenting to you the first episode of the coming season of How Things Grow next Monday!  ** Get more goodies here: http://MobileUserAcquisitionShow.com http://RocketShipHQ.com http://RocketShipHQ.com/blog

    2 min

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How Things Grow is a podcast about, well, how things grow.Each episode features an interview with one of the leading growth practitioners, entrepreneurs, experts or historians in the world today. Host Shamanth Rao talks to these amazing people about the growth trajectories of some of the companies, trends or economic systems that absolutely took off - either in recent times or way back in the past.