Buyers and Builders

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The Buyers and Builders podcast with PrivateEquityGuy is a place where you can find meaningful conversations about holding companies, buying and building businesses, entrepreneurship, investing, and more. Be sure to follow the podcast, so you never miss an episode!

  1. 9 Add-Ons in 24 Months | Dan Lifshits of Dwelly Interview

    2 DAYS AGO

    9 Add-Ons in 24 Months | Dan Lifshits of Dwelly Interview

    Dan Lifshits, co-founder of Dwelly, explains how he is building an AI-enabled roll-up in the UK lettings market by acquiring independent agencies and modernizing them with software. Dwelly has completed 9 acquisitions in just 24 months, combining a buy-and-build strategy with a technology-first operating model designed to improve service for landlords and tenants while making agency operations far more efficient. In this episode, we go deep on why lettings is such an attractive category for consolidation, why organic growth is limited in this market, and why Dan believes acquisitions are the fastest way to build a modern property management platform. We cover: • Why lettings agencies are such attractive recurring-revenue businesses • Why organic growth is structurally difficult in property management • How Dwelly uses acquisitions to scale faster than traditional operators • Why the business was hard for investors to categorize as either VC or private equity • What actually changes after Dwelly acquires an agency • How software and AI can improve visibility, communication, and efficiency • What makes an ideal acquisition target in the lettings market • Lessons from raising capital for a new kind of roll-up Dan also shares the real story of Dwelly’s fundraising journey, including why so many investors passed at first and what it takes to keep going when the vision is unconventional. If you are interested in roll-ups, vertical software, AI, private equity, or building a modern services business through acquisition, this episode is full of insight. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro: Dan Lifshits and Dwelly’s AI-enabled lettings rollup 1:34 The real fundraising story 2:02 Why the founders chose lettings after Uber and operational marketplace experience 5:06 Why acquisitions beat organic growth in property management 7:00 Why Dwelly was hard for investors to categorize as VC or private equity 10:01 How the founders evaluate industries and opportunities 11:45 Buying customers vs winning customers organically 16:26 Where rollups fail and why AI rollups are even harder 18:40 What actually happens after an acquisition and how integration works 25:34 Dwelly’s ideal acquisition target: size, recurring lettings revenue, and succession 32:18 Dan’s advice for founders struggling to raise capital Sponsor: https://capitalpad.com/ - A deal-by-deal private equity investing platform This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

    34 min
  2. How We Built IDUN Industrier: 20 Acquisitions and 60x+ P/E Ratio

    6 DAYS AGO

    How We Built IDUN Industrier: 20 Acquisitions and 60x+ P/E Ratio

    In this episode, we break down IDUN Industrier, a Swedish serial acquirer that has completed 20 acquisitions to date and now trades at roughly a 65x P/E multiple — an extraordinary valuation for an industrial holding company. What makes IDUN so interesting is that it is not simply buying businesses for scale. It is building a portfolio of niche leaders: small, often overlooked companies with high market share, strong customer dependence, and positions that are difficult to replicate. We explore how IDUN creates value through disciplined acquisitions, decentralized operations, co-ownership, and long-term capital allocation — and why investors may be willing to pay such a premium for that model. Timestamps: 0:00 Why IDUN Industrier deserves attention 1:19 The power of dominating tiny niche markets 3:13 Why the market gives IDUN a premium valuation 4:32 Buy relevance, not scale 5:54 Meet the niche leaders inside IDUN’s portfolio 7:44 How IDUN actually creates value 9:42 Why portfolio design matters 10:40 M&A discipline over deal volume 12:20 Why IDUN resembles the best serial acquirers 13:44 Lessons for investors, buyers, and operators 15:32 The biggest risks in the model 17:45 Final takeaway: a blueprint for durable compounding Sponsor: https://capitalpad.com/ - A deal-by-deal private equity investing platform This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. #IDUNIndustrier #SerialAcquirer #HoldCo #PrivateEquity #CapitalAllocation #EntrepreneurshipThroughAcquisition #LongTermInvesting #BusinessAcquisition #MandA #Compounders

    20 min
  3. What 100+ Investments Taught Me About Great Acquirers | Lacey Wismer Interview

    21 MAR

    What 100+ Investments Taught Me About Great Acquirers | Lacey Wismer Interview

    Mike Markus ( ⁠https://x.com/PrivatEquityGuy ) talks with Lacey Wismer of Hunter Search Capital ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/laceywismer/ ) about her journey from a family business background into investing in more than 100 search funds, backing operators, and building a platform around long-term business ownership. Timestamps 0:00 Introduction: Lacey Wismer on permanent capital and long-term holds 0:30 Entrepreneurial upbringing: luck, simplicity, cash flow, and leverage 2:54 What changes when you buy to own for 30 years 5:26 Studying enduring businesses instead of trends 6:49 The anatomy of a 100x deal 8:40 Diamond Brands and the power of adjacent acquisitions 10:59 From family business buying to search fund investing 11:58 How ETA changed from 2010 to 2026 14:58 Why the entrepreneur matters more than the business 18:03 What Lacey looks for in founders 19:50 Unconsolidated niches and the “right to win” 23:21 Biggest mistakes: wrong partners, overpaying, overleverage 27:40 The upside and downside of permanent holds 30:37 Capital allocation without a planned exit 33:20 Raising permanent capital with patient investors 35:29 Finding operators for indefinite-hold businesses 39:12 What frugality looks like inside a company 42:01 U.S. vs Europe: fragmentation and entry multiples 45:13 How Hunter Search Capital wins without overpaying 51:33 Women in ETA and relationship-driven investing Sponsor: https://capitalpad.com/ - A deal-by-deal private equity investing platform This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

    58 min

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