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Since 1914, the New Mexico Wildlife Federation has been protecting our state’s wildlife, habitat and public lands for all to enjoy. Now the federation is kicking off a new chapter, launching the Ahi Va Podcast to present information to inform and inspire New Mexicans to conserve our resources for future generations. Stay connected to learn about important issues and ways to take action.

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    Ep. 57: NOT FOR SALE: A Conversation on Conservation with Senator Heinrich

    From the roughest, driest deserts, to our towering, high-alpine peaks, Senator Martin Heinrich has explored the most remote public lands in New Mexico. As an avid hunter, angler, birder and forager, New Mexico's Senior United States Senator cherishes every opportunity to spend time outdoors. Sen. Heinrich is not shy about expressing his tremendous love for the state he proudly chooses to call home. His unwavering love for New Mexico and its wild places is always on clear display as he tenaciously represents the interests of all public land lovers while he carries out critical work in Washington, D.C. Conservationists from around the country and on both sides of the political aisle have come to recognize Sen. Heinrich as "America's Conservation Champion."  In this episode, host Jesse Deubel is joined by Sen. Heinrich as well as two other hunting, fishing and conservation partners. Jeremy Vesbach and Jeremy Romero have both been on the show before. This is their first appearance together. Jeremy Vesbach is a former NM State Game Commissioner and the former executive director of the New Mexico Wildlife Federation. Currently he serves as the Western Lands Director at Western Resource Advocates. Jeremy Romero is also a former staff member of the New Mexico Wildlife Federation. Currently he works as the Wildlife Connectivity Manager at the National Wildlife Federation. In conservation circles these two Jeremy's are affectionately referred to as "Jeremy Squared." All four of these professional conservationists have the fortune of sharing time in the field on occasion. After a day of glassing for elk, calling to turkeys or drifting flies down a remote stream for trout, this team of advocates relaxes around a campfire discussing issues surrounding public lands, waters and wildlife.  The conversation featured on this show provides listeners an opportunity to eavesdrop on one of these fireside-type chats. Their musings range from Capitol Hill to the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness and from the Gila to the Tongass National Forests. Enjoy the listen!    For more info:  NMWF Website

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    Ep. 56: Keeping NM Wild

    The New Mexico Wilderness Alliance [DBA: NM Wild] is a nonprofit 501(c)(3) grassroots organization dedicated to the protection, restoration, and continued enjoyment of New Mexico’s wildlands and wilderness areas. Founded in 1997, they achieve our mission through administrative protection, federal wilderness designation, and ongoing stewardship. NM Wild has a membership of individuals from all corners of New Mexico and across the nation. Their organizing efforts span the state and involve many diverse groups, including ranchers, sportsmen, land grants, acequia communities, tribal and religious leaders, scientists, youth, and community leaders. They have a proven track record of building diverse coalitions to protect our public lands. In this episode of the show, Jesse Deubel sits down with Mark Allison who has served as NM Wild's executive director for the past 13 years. For about half of that time, Jesse and Mark have worked very closely together on many shared conservation priorities. During this conversation these two conservation leaders reflect on many of their shared successes. They also outline current threats and the need to remain vigilant when it comes to protecting our public lands and access to them. Included in that defense strategy is the public's need to continue to communicate their love and support for public lands to elected officials. This duo of conservation leaders outlines the plan for this year's "Camo at the Capitol" event. The event will take place on February 6th, 2026 from 2:00pm - 4:00pm at New Mexico's State Capitol Building, The Roundhouse. All people who use and appreciate public land are invited to attend. If you're a hunter, wear your favorite camo gear to represent the hunting community and to make it known that we hunt, we vote and we matter. Regardless of what you wear, just make sure to be there. This episode will provide you with more information about that event, more information about NM Wild and a fireside-type chat between two friends who, as it turns out, have a lot in common. Enjoy the listen!     For more info:  NM Wild Website NMWF Website

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    Ep. 55: Conservation Musings with Brandon Butler

    For this 55th episode of the show, it seemed appropriate to bring on the man responsible for starting the Ahi Va Podcast. In February of 2021 Brandon Butler was in New Mexico hunting over-the-counter barbary sheep with NMWF's executive director Jesse Deubel. As the two men drove to and from hunting spots they intermittently listened to a variety of hunting/conservation podcasts. As the owner of Driftwood Outdoors, Brandon was no stranger to podcasting. In fact, following a successful hunt Brandon and Jesse actually recorded an episode of the Driftwood Outdoors Podcast.If you're interested in listening to that episode it's episode #78: The Man in the Arena: Jesse Deubel. After recording the show, Brandon suggested that the New Mexico Wildlife Federation should have its own podcast and Jesse should be the host. After some reluctance, Jesse agreed and the show was born. The New Mexico Wildlife Federation owes a huge debt of gratitude to the Driftwood Outdoors team, specifically Nathan "Shags" McLeod and Brandon Butler for professionally producing the show each month. We've featured some interesting topics and spoken with some incredible people. We're happy that Brandon Butler's name is now added to that list of special guests. In this conversation Jesse and Brandon discuss a variety of conservation issues from corner crossing to chronic wasting disease and PFAS-forever chemicals. It's a great show with lots of twists and turns, a few laughs and plenty of wisdom being shared. Enjoy the Listen!   For more info:  Driftwod Outdoors YouTube Driftwod Outdoors Website Driftwod Outdoors FB Driftwod Outdoors Instagram

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    Ep. 54: A Shooting Range for Everyone

    The New Mexico Wildlife Federation is proud to announce our recently formed partnership with Legacy Ranch, a shooting range for everyone. At Legacy Ranch, their mission is to provide an exceptional experience for every customer and member while committing to quality across all aspects of their operation. Their focus remains on professionalism, safety, and innovation, ensuring that each venture enhances rather than compromises the overall experience. They strive to build a welcoming community where everyone feels a sense of belonging. By supporting local churches, non-profit organizations, and youth programs, they aim to give back and make a positive impact beyond the range. Legacy Ranch is more than just a shooting facility—it’s a destination where lasting memories and meaningful connections are made.  Legacy Ranch is more than just a venue. Their 500 acres of breathtaking landscapes, majestic trees, and untouched wilderness create the perfect backdrop for the New Mexico Wildlife Federation's upcoming Outdoor Festival and Skills Competition. This location will serve as an exceptional facility to host our competitions which will include sporting clays, pistol shooting, 3D archery and much more. All of this will be taking place on this serene landscape where nature’s beauty takes center stage. The date of this event is February 28th, 2026 so put it on your calendar.  On this episode of the Ahi Va Podcast Jesse Deubel sits down with Matthew Fuentes-Tanuz, one of the owners of Legacy Ranch to talk about the range, the upcoming NMWF event and a whole host of interesting and entertaining topics. We'll see you out at Legacy Ranch, but until then...enjoy the listen!  For more info: NMWF Legacy Ranch Instagram Legacy Ranch FB Legacy Ranch YouTube Legacy Ranch Website

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    Ep. 53: NM Desert Bighorn Sheep

    Less than 1% of hunters in the United States will ever harvest a bighorn sheep ram. One of the guests on this episode of the Ahi Va podcast talks about the disbelief he felt when he learned that he drew a very coveted tag for a Desert Bighorn Sheep in New Mexico's Fra Cristobal Range. Garett Hayes joins the show to talk about his recent experience and share the story of the hunt and the harvest with our listeners. Accompanying Garett on that hunt and on this episode is his good friend and hunting partner TJ Montoya. Our host, Jesse Deubel sits down with Garett and TJ to talk about all things wild sheep. Included in the discussion are thoughts regarding the recovery of this iconic North American species as well as threats to its future. In addition to recalling the details of the hunt, our guests share their thoughts on public versus private land conservation, the importance of helping new hunters and taking full advantage of our youthful abilities. There are some words of special appreciation for Blackhorn Guide Services, the owners of which are friends of the show and appeared on episode 18 of the Ahi Va Podcast. This is a fun and thoughtful conversation that will be appreciated by the 99+% of hunters who have never pursued a bighorn ram as much as it will appeal to those lucky enough to be in the 1% club. Congratulations on your induction to this prestigious group Garett Hayes! To everyone else, enjoy the listen!    For more info:  NMWF Website

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    Ep. 52: Forest and Farm with Chrissy Streit

    When Chrissy Streit met and later married an avid hunter she made it clear that she was never, ever going to hunt. As a very conscientious eater of animal protein, her opinions about hunting shifted over time. When the young couple began a family and the thought of both the origin and the content of the food they would feed their children came into play, Chrissy really began to experience a change of perspective. Now, a very accomplished hunter, gardener, forager and cook, Chrissy shares her journey with others online through her various "Forest and Farm" platforms.  In this episode, Jesse Deubel and Chrissy Streit talk about Chrissy's transition from being accepting of hunting to becoming a hunter herself. She shares heartfelt stories about the experiences she's had and how it has helped shape her view of life, death and food. From hunting grouse to elk and growing and harvesting species from rabbits to lettuce this episode covers four natural food procurement options that minimize our dependence on the local grocery market. Hunting, fishing, gardening and foraging are all covered in this entertaining and educational conversation. At the root of it all is a reminder about the importance of understanding that all living organisms on this planet are connected. The consequences of humans becoming increasingly distanced from the natural world are real. Being in nature helps our minds and our souls and the [real] food it provides feeds our bodies. Hopefully when you finish listening to this one you'll want to get outside, get your hands dirty and touch grass. Until then, enjoy the listen!   For more info: Forest and Farm FB Forest and Farm Instagram NMWF Website

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    Ep. 51: Andy McLaughlin - A Life Lived Outside

    Andy McLaughlin joins the show from a remote island in Alaska where he lives off the land enjoying a true subsistence lifestyle. Having grown up with grandparents who were passionate about the outdoors, Andy became interested in nature at a very young age. Spending much of his childhood on farms in the Midwest, his early connections to the land ranged from farming to hunting, fishing and foraging.  Well respected for his culinary skills and creativity in utilizing wild game in the kitchen, Jesse Deubel first met Andy on the “Hunt, Gather, Cook” Facebook page. This page was created by and is run by famed wild game chef and author Hank Shaw. After years of communicating and sharing recipes, Andy traveled to New Mexico to hunt javelina with Jesse in 2024. The two hunted an area that Hank Shaw would also visit as he did research for his newest book, “Borderlands.” “Borderlands” highlights recipes and stories from the Rio Grande to the Pacific. It’s a must have for every kitchen.  In spring of 2025 Jesse traveled to Indiana to hunt and fish with Andy on his family farm. In this casual conversation Andy and Jesse recall these experiences as they discuss the critical importance of healthy habitat for sustainable wildlife populations. They also dive into the role hunting plays in effectively managing wildlife. No topic is off limits as they delve into the challenges of climate change and the current threats to public lands. Andy is an incredible outdoorsman with a background in wildlife management. His knowledge and experience are sure to both educate and entertain. Enjoy the listen!  For more info: NMWF Website

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    Ep. 50: NM State Rep. Dayan Hochman-Vigil

    On this very special episode of the Ahi Va Podcast listeners will have the opportunity to meet District 15; State Representative Dayan Hochman-Vigil. Having served as the Chair of the House Transportation, Public Works & Capital Improvements Committee, Rep. Hochman-Vigil was instrumental in helping New Mexico become the very first state ever to develop a statewide Wildlife Corridors Action Plan. Now serving as the House Majority Whip, Rep. Hochman-Vigil continues to leverage her leadership and influence to advance New Mexico's conservation priorities. Joined by Judy Calman from Audubon Southwest, Rep. Hochman-Vigil and podcast host Jesse Deubel all discuss the behind the scenes action that went into passing Senate Bill 5, The Wildlife Heritage Act. Understanding the intricacies of how things work at the New Mexico State Legislature is crucial to finding success each session. Take this opportunity to hear all about it from one of our elected champions inside the Roundhouse. Huge thanks to Rep. Hochman-Vigil for all her work at the Capitol and for taking the time to talk with the New Mexico Wildlife Federation and Audubon Southwest about it. Enjoy the listen!   For more info: NMWF Website

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Since 1914, the New Mexico Wildlife Federation has been protecting our state’s wildlife, habitat and public lands for all to enjoy. Now the federation is kicking off a new chapter, launching the Ahi Va Podcast to present information to inform and inspire New Mexicans to conserve our resources for future generations. Stay connected to learn about important issues and ways to take action.

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