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Di Edwards and Nicola Dale have been best friends for close to four decades & they actually share a ‘back fence’ in Sydney! They share a love of life, a passion for people, and have discovered a simple conversation over the back fence, can change a life and give a sense of belonging .  “We’re not neuroscientists, psychologists, doctors or monks - we just love people - and know with age comes wisdom."

  1. 4 DAYS AGO

    Kerri Pottharst OAM: The Champion Mindset 

    This week Nicola and Di chat with the inspiring Olympian Kerri Pottharst OAM. Kerri delivered one of Australia's most iconic sporting moments, when she won Gold with her partner Natalie Cook in beach volleyball, playing in front of 10,000 fans on the sands of Bondi beach at the Sydney 2000 Olympics. However, there’s more to Kerri than just the medals. Beyond being an elite athlete, she’s also a talented speaker, an author, a mindset coach, a commentator and a mum and we loved getting to hear her story in this episode.We chatted to Kerri about how she got started in beach volleyball, which is a remarkable story of turning a rock bottom moment into one of the most incredible chapters of her life. After injuring herself in indoor volleyball, she decided to give beach volleyball a go, despite the fact that she doesn’t even like sand - and the rest is history!  Kerri shares so many incredible mindset tips, including how she turned things around after a terrible injury, got clear on her goals, wrote them down, visualised them every day, got the right group of people around her and worked towards achieving her dream. There’s so much we can all learn from Kerri around creating a winning mindset and going after what we want in life!  We also chatted about Kerri’s choice to really challenge herself as she got older and compete on SAS Australia - one of the most physically grueling things you can do. She shared how it was important to her to inspire older women and show them that we can still challenge ourselves and try new things as we age.  Kerri also opens up about finding love again, and the beautiful way she met her partner while on holiday in Hawaii - it’s a great story you’ll want to hear!  This was such an inspiring conversation with Kerri and we were so thrilled to have her with us in the studio. We laughed a lot and felt completely uplifted after talking to her - we hope you do too.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer.  We'd love you to join us for our Backfence Disco on Friday, May 29th at Positive Energy in Sydney. It's going to be such a fun night and we can't wait to dance the night away with you in person! Buy your tickets here: https://events.humanitix.com/over-the-back-fence-disco Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Kerri on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/kerripottharst/ Find out more about Kerri and her work her - https://www.kerripottharst.com/ Buy Kerri’s book The Business of Being an Athlete here - https://www.kerripottharst.com/the-business-of-being-an-athlete Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts   Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    1hr 3min

  2. 13 MAY

    Over The Money Fence: Why everything still feels so uncertain right now – and what it means for your money

    This week Nicola and Di are back with Over The Money Fence with Roger Montgomery.   This series aims to help you take control of your finances with clarity and confidence. Roger is the Founder and Chairman of Montgomery Investment Management, has over 30 years’ investing experience and is a highly respected financial commentator featuring on various ABC programs, as well as his popular column in The Australian newspaper. He is also the author of best-selling investment guidebook Value.able.   In this episode, Roger reassures us that despite everything that’s going on globally, it’s not all doom and gloom when it comes to the economy and markets.  Are we in a recession? We discuss why the cost-of-living crisis and how this is changing our spending habits, plus the latest pricing tricks used by supermarkets and airlines.  We also talk about property and why Roger believes that people who are predicting that property prices in Australia will fall by 40% are wrong.   He goes through all of the reasons why this isn’t likely to happen and explains the 2 major drivers of property prices.   He also shares his thoughts on negative gearing and capital gains tax, and what they mean for investors – very timely given this week’s Budget announcement.  Is now a good time to spend or save? Roger gives us an excellent and practical tool for how we can build up our savings when the cost of living is high.   Roger also shares his insights about where we should be investing now and goes through the difference between various private credit funds and the importance of investing in quality.   As always, we loved having this conversation with Roger in the studio. He always makes us feel more calm and confident about our financial decisions. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.   This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com  Find out more about Montgomery Investment Management here - https://montinvest.com  Find out more about Montgomery private credit funds here -    https://www.montinvest.com/privatecredit  Read Roger’s Whitepaper on private credit funds here -    https://rogermontgomery.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Whitepaper-_-cutting-through-the-noise-why-australian-private-credit-stands-apart.pdf Learn more about Roger and read his articles here - https://rogermontgomery.com  Buy Roger's book Value.able here - https://rogermontgomery.com/valueable-book/  Follow Roger on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/rogerjmontgomery/  Follow Roger’s YouTube channel here  - https://www.youtube.com/user/rogerjmontgomery Follow Roger on X here - https://x.com/rjmontgomery  Follow Roger on Facebook here - https://www.facebook.com/montgomeryroger/ Follow Roger on LinkedIn here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogermontgomery/  Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/  Follow Nicola and Di on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    45 min

  3. 10 MAY

    Johann Hari: Anxiety, Shame & Finding Meaning, The Truth About Ozempic

    This week Nicola and Di chat with New York Times Best-Selling Author, Johann Hari. Johann is an award-winning journalist and the author of 5 books that have sold millions of copies across the world and been translated into 40 languages. He has spent many years pulling at threads most of us don’t even realise we’re tangled in. From addiction to attention spans and depression, the invisible forces shaping how we live, Johann’s insightful words have spread all over the world, through not only his books, but his TED talks that have been viewed more than 93 million times and his appearances on some of the world’s leading podcasts and shows.  In this episode, Johann opens up about his early childhood and gives us an insight into what life was like for him as a young boy. He talks about the difficult situations and challenges he’s been through, which gave him the personal motivation to start asking questions to understand more about some of the biggest problems of the modern world - addiction, anxiety, depression, loneliness, focus, and weight gain.  We talk about the 9 causes of anxiety and depression, and that the Western world’s focus on treating anxiety and depression through medication alone, has missed the mark by not taking the time to address the underlying causes. Johann talks about broadening the menu of options and treatments available to people, and the importance of understanding what is causing your anxiety or depression, so you can find the appropriate treatment. He shares some incredible stories and examples of social prescribing, and the way that working together, building community and leaning into connection are some of the most powerful antidepressants in the world.    We also talk to Johann about his latest book, The Magic Pill, which goes through everything you need to know about GLP-1 weight loss drugs. Johann shares about his personal journey with Ozempic, the pros and the cons, and how despite getting everything he thought he wanted - losing weight and looking good, he didn’t actually feel better.  We had so much fun chatting with Johann. Even though the topics we cover in this episode are quite serious, Johann is an exceptional story teller with a wonderful sense of humour and we laughed a lot. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did! This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer.  We'd love you to join us for our Backfence Disco on Friday, May 29th at Positive Energy in Sydney. It's going to be such a fun night and we can't wait to dance the night away with you in person! Buy your tickets here: https://events.humanitix.com/over-the-back-fence-disco Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Johann on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/johann.hari/ Find out more about Johann’s books here - https://johannhari.com/ Buy Johann’s book Lost Connections here - https://thelostconnections.com/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    1hr 5min

  4. 3 MAY

    Barry Hoffner: Belonging to the World - 193 Countries: From Grief to Connection

    This week Nicola and Di chat with wanderlust traveler Barry Hoffner. Barry is the author of Amazon’s number 1 adventure travel book, Belonging To The World. In 2017, Barry’s whole world changed when his wife Jackie was in a tragic accident involving an elephant while volunteering in Africa with WildAid. After she passed away, Barry had to remain strong for his 2 sons, yet through his own healing journey, he discovered so much about life, kindness, and connection and it opened his eyes to a new world. Rather than bury his grief, which Barry says can mute the possibility of feeling joy again, his healing journey inspired him to travel to 193 countries - that’s every country on earth!   In this episode we hear how Barry’s love of travel was first ignited with a chance back-packing trip to Europe after high school. From that moment, Barry knew he wanted to see the world. He tells us about his career in investment banking, which allowed him to live and work in cities such as Buenos Aires, Paris, Tokyo, Singapore, London, Zurich, Mexico City and Moscow.  We also hear the beautiful story of how Barry met his late wife Jackie, and the moment they declared their love for each other outside the Taj Mahal. They went on to have 2 sons and raise a beautiful family, and were just about to enjoy their first trip as empty nesters when tragedy struck and Jackie was killed on a volunteering trip in Africa. Barry describes the moment that he found out, and how his life would never be the same again. Barry’s journey from grief to connection over the last 8 years has been remarkable and he shares so many incredible stories of the amazing moments he’s had in countries so many of us will only dream of visiting. He shares the moment that made his heart beat the most, and we also ask for some of his best travel tips, including where he had the best coffee - you’ll never guess where it was!  We also talk to Barry about the empowering charity he set up in 2010 called Caravan to Class. What started as a personal project to help build a school for his 50th birthday in Timbuktu, led to Barry creating a charity that continues to build schools and offer scholarships, in Jackie’s honour, to educate women in West Africa. What’s even more incredible is that 100% of the proceeds from the sales of Barry’s book go to Caravan to Class to continue this important work.  We are lucky enough to call Barry a good friend and we were so thrilled to be able to have this conversation with him. He’s such a good storyteller and has so much wisdom to share about what he’s learnt on his travels. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer.  We'd love you to join us for our Backfence Disco on Friday, May 29th at Positive Energy in Sydney. It's going to be such a fun night and we can't wait to dance the night away with you in person! Buy your tickets here: https://events.humanitix.com/over-the-back-fence-disco Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Barry on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/barryh99/ Find out more about Barry and his book Belonging To The World here - https://belongingtotheworld.com/  Buy Barry’s book Belonging To The World here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1964721415 Learn more about Barry’s charity Caravan to Class here - https://caravantoclass.org/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    1hr 1min

  5. 26 APR

    Jasmin Tarasin & Maeve Dermody: Hidden Signs of Coercive Control - A New Way Forward - Film: Life Could Be A Dream

    This week Nicola and Di chat with talented filmmaker Jasmin Tarasin and lead actress Maeve Dermody about their new film Life Could Be A Dream. Jasmin is an award-winning filmmaker and artist who creates emotionally charged heartfelt stories driven by humanity and honesty. She is passionate about creating change in gender equality through storytelling in every part of her work. Maeve is an accomplished actress who starred in her first film at the age of 5 and has been acting ever since in television, theatre and films in both Australia and Britain. Every so often a story comes along that really sticks with you and sparks a bigger conversation. Life Could Be A Dream, already winning Best Independent Film at the Montreal Film Festival, is one of those films. It’s a powerful, intimate film that uses storytelling to shine a light on coercive control, financial abuse and those quieter patterns that can sit underneath relationships. It’s also a story of hope and resilience about how we can start to see things more clearly and make different choices moving forward.  In this episode we chat to Jasmin about her work leading up to this film and what inspired her to tell a story about coercive control. We talk about what coercive control actually is, how you can recognise the subtle patterns or signs of it, and importantly, we also go through some of the very practical steps you can take to regain your own financial agency.  We talk to Maeve about what it was like making the film, the beautiful cinematography, the powerful story and how we both felt when we watched it. It’s a film that really moved us, and even though it tackles a heavy topic, it does so in such a thoughtful and gentle way. As Jasmin says in this chat, she sees the film as a story of hope, family and resilience and as a love song to young men.  Life Could Be A Dream is in cinemas in Australia from May 14th and a percentage of the ticket sales will go to The Man Cave, a preventative mental health charity for boys and young men. We loved having both Jasmin and Maeve in the studio with us and we hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer.  We'd love you to join us for our Backfence Disco on Friday, May 29th at Positive Energy in Sydney. It's going to be such a fun night and we can't wait to dance the night away with you in person! Buy your tickets here: https://events.humanitix.com/over-the-back-fence-disco Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Jasmin on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/jasmintarasin/ Follow Life Could Be a Dream on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/lifecouldbeadreamofficial/ Find out more about the film and watch the trailer here - https://lifecouldbeadream.com.au/ Find out more about The Man Cave, a preventative mental health charity who will receive a portion of the ticket price - https://themancave.life/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    34 min

  6. 19 APR

    John Fejo: Sharks, Drones and First Nations Wisdom in the Age of AI

    This week Nicola and Di chat with inspiring storyteller John Fuje. John is a First Nations man with a deep connection to storytelling culture and country. He works in environmental services as a senior coordinator, and is an AI and drone technology specialist, using these tools in practical ways to help track sharks, turtles and other marine life along the coastline. The amazing thing about John is the way he blends thousands of years of indigenous wisdom about country and Mother Nature, with the most modern AI tools to find new ways of looking after our planet. John is also a devoted husband, father and grandfather with so much love for his family.  Nicola and Di were introduced to John when he was brought in to spot sharks on Sydney’s Northern Beaches. After inviting him for what they thought would be a 20 minute coffee, which turned into 2 hours, they decided that everyone needed to hear John’s stories.  In this episode we hear the incredible story of how John was able to combine his deep knowledge of country with drone technology that would help him track the movements of sharks and other marine life. We ask him about the recent increase in shark attacks along Sydney’s coastline, and whether there are more sharks in the water - John’s answer may surprise you! We talk about the power of Mother Nature in grounding us and reminding us how connected we all are. The way John talks about his connection with nature is mesmerising and we were captivated by his stories.  We loved having John in the studio with us and it was so wonderful to hear the beautiful and refreshing perspective that he shares. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer. We'd love you to join us for our Backfence Disco on Friday, May 29th at Positive Energy in Sydney. It's going to be such a fun night and we can't wait to dance the night away with you in person! Buy your tickets here: https://events.humanitix.com/over-the-back-fence-disco Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow John on LinkedIn here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-fejo-690434255/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    49 min

  7. 12 APR

    Dr. Shefali Tsabary Gets Real About The Stories We Hide Behind - And How To Break Them

    This week Nicola and Di chat with the wise and insightful Dr. Shefali. Dr. Shefali is a world-renowned clinical psychologist, international parenting expert, and a New York Times bestselling author of 7 books including The Conscious Parent, The Parenting Map and A Radical Awakening among others. She’s also the host of the Parenting & You podcast, founder of the Conscious Parenting movement and has been a guest several times on Super Soul with Oprah.  In this episode we talk to Dr. Shefali about what it means to be a conscious parent and how you can become aware of your patterns and belief systems by recognising that your child is a mirror to your unresolved issues. It’s not only our children, we talk about the powerful way that all relationships are like mirrors that show us where we still have places to heal and lessons to learn. Dr. Shefali shares some great examples from her own life as a parent, and how we can practically begin to break down our patterns and not project our expectations onto our children. She helps us understand that there’s no such thing as a perfect parent or a perfect human - we are all learning and evolving.  Dr. Shefali shares about her childhood in India and how she always knew she wanted to leave because of the inequalities she witnessed there. At the age of 21 she moved to the United States, where she studied at the California Institute of Integral Studies and Columbia University and began integrating Western psychology and Eastern philosophy in all of her work.  We also talk about her book A Radical Awakening, which helps women see how to break free from societal expectations and live authentic lives. Dr. Shefali talks about the choice we are sometimes faced with between being authentic to ourselves or authentic to the views of others, and that the greatest gift you can ultimately give others in your life is to choose to be authentically yourself.  This is such a beautiful and powerful episode, whether you’re a parent or not, because all of Dr. Shefali’s wisdom can be applied to any relationship in your life. We’re so grateful we had this time with Dr. Shefali, who joined us all the way from New York, and we hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer.  Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Dr. Shefali on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/doctorshefali/ 30-Day Free Access to the Conscious Circle Community - https://courses.drshefali.com/circle-giftpass Radical Awakening Bali Retreat - https://radicalawakeningbali.com/ - Use code AUSTRALIA500 for $500 off  Conscious Parenting & Life Coaching Institute - https://coaching.drshefali.com/ - Once your application is approved, use code AUSTRALIA for $500 off tuition. Watch Alicia Keys reading a poem from A Radical Awakening by Dr. Shefali here - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJjpHupvgUQ/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    53 min

  8. 5 APR

    Jane McCann: The Middle Age Goddess - Aging is an Upgrade, Nothing Changes Until You Do

    This week Nicola and Di chat with the delightful Middle Age Goddess, Jane McCann. Jane is a woman who’s turned midlife into a statement. She’s confident, stylish and completely unapologetic. Jane, known as the Middle Age Goddess, has built a loyal Instagram following by rejecting the idea that life slows down after a certain age and proving instead that it only gets better. From fashion, beauty, travel and reinvention, she represents a new kind of woman - one who isn’t interested in playing small, fading quietly or asking for permission. Whether she’s fronting curated experiences abroad or sharing her take on modern femininity, Jane embodies a life that is bold, visible and entirely self-defined. Midlife isn’t the end of the story for Jane, it’s the main event.  In this episode we chat to Jane about what life was like before she became the Middle Age Goddess, and what inspired her to share this chapter of her life online and create such a wonderful community. We talk about why people resonate so much with her message, which is really because of Jane’s honesty and authenticity.  Jane opens up about what it was like to be brought up by a mother who was suffering from bipolar and the way that affected her confidence and self-belief. Jane also shares about the painful loss of her sister a few years ago, and gives us some beautiful suggestions of the things that have helped her process her grief. We talk about the power of being in nature, going for a walk, calling a girlfriend and leaning into the simple things that make you feel good.  We also have fun talking about some of the topics Jane covers on her Instagram - from her middle age rage to her outfits du jour, it’s so entertaining following her story.  We absolutely loved chatting with Jane. It was so refreshing to talk about how life keeps getting better as we age and the ways we can keep reinventing ourselves and experiencing new things. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Jane aka The Middle Age Goddess on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/themiddleagedgoddess/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    49 min
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Di Edwards and Nicola Dale have been best friends for close to four decades & they actually share a ‘back fence’ in Sydney! They share a love of life, a passion for people, and have discovered a simple conversation over the back fence, can change a life and give a sense of belonging .  “We’re not neuroscientists, psychologists, doctors or monks - we just love people - and know with age comes wisdom."

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