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A podcast about what we gain by keeping the past, present

  1. Central American Art and Resistance in 1980’s LA

    9 DEC

    Central American Art and Resistance in 1980’s LA

    In this episode, we go back to 1980s Los Angeles, when civil wars in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Nicaragua sent hundreds of thousands of people north and helped turn LA into “Little Central America.” With professor and longtime participant Rubén Martínez as our guide—someone who lived through this moment firsthand—we follow the Sanctuary Movement as churches quietly, and then publicly, open their doors to refugees the U.S. refused to recognize. Sanctuary meant food and a place to sleep, but it also meant music, theater, poetry, and posters that challenged U.S. policy while helping people process their grief. From there, we step inside Echo Park United Methodist Church, where artist and performer Elia Arce and a circle of Central American poets, musicians, and organizers transform the basement into a cultural home. We also sit with Rev. David Farley, pastor emeritus of Echo Park United Methodist, who was there to witness it all. Upstairs, families try to stay invisible on classroom floors; downstairs, performances inspired by banned writers, songs from back home, and handmade banners turn fear and exile into shared story. Our last stop is the Getty Research Institute, where archivist Jasmine Magaña—a Salvadoran Angeleno herself—is helping build a new, expansive record of this era.  Through in-depth oral histories with artists and organizers, she and her colleagues work to preserve stories that were never formally recorded but continue to shape Los Angeles today. Together, Rubén, Elia, and Jasmine show how the art around the Sanctuary Movement didn’t just document a moment—it held people together, reshaped Los Angeles, and still offers a blueprint for solidarity in our own tense times. Special thanks to Rubén Martínez, Elia Arce, and Jasmine Magaña. Deep gratitude to Lindsey Gant and Diana Carroll for their generous support in publishing and creating the web pages and Gina White for her work on rights and clearances.

    26 min
  2. Roses & Pixels

    4 NOV

    Roses & Pixels

    Jaime Roque follows the life of a familiar image across LA, beginning with the 2001 backlash to Alma López’s digital artwork Our Lady. What looked like a small museum fight opens a bigger story about who gets to remake a figure many people call sacred—and why that matters in everyday neighborhoods, not just in galleries. Jaime meets the people keeping the image alive in different ways. In downtown, Manuel treats the classic print like family and warns against changing it. In Boyle Heights, artist Nico Aviña rolls out a seven-foot plywood Guadalupe holding an eviction notice, a moving reminder of how families and their stories are being pushed out. Online, Oscar Rodríguez—known as @lavirgencita—photographs and maps murals before they’re painted over, building a simple record so the glow doesn’t disappear. Even at a ball game, a tiny pin on a cap feels like a small altar, proof that the image still travels with us. The episode also looks back to the figure’s early roots on Tepeyac Hill—a mix of Indigenous and Spanish worlds that helps explain why she carries both faith and culture. Through these voices and places, Jaime and his guests ask straight questions with real stakes: Who gets to redraw her? When is it devotion, and when is it pride or protest? Recurrent lands in that middle space—where street corners, shop walls, and phone screens can teach, comfort, and push back all at once—inviting listeners to see how a shared picture can hold a community together even as the city changes. This episode was inspired by the Visualizing the Virgin Mary exhibition. Special thanks to Alma Lopez, Nico Avina, Oscar Rodriguez, Melissa Casas, and Alejandro Jaramillo. Additional music provided by Splice. Rights and Clearances by Gina White.

    28 min

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