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What happens after the experiences of true crime survivors have been shared with the world? Does the media truly capture all it entails to survive such tragedy in the public eye? What comes after the convictions are in, the cameras stop rolling, and the court of public opinion has spoken? Can sharing our stories lead to justice, and is there ever really justice?

These questions and many more are discussed on the new true crime docuseries podcast brought to you by Broken Cycle Media (https://www.brokencyclemedia.com/) .

What Came Next (http://www.instagram.com/whatcamenext_podcast) is co-created and produced by Something Was Wrong (http://www.somethingwaswrong.com) ’s Tiffany Reese and host, award-winning writer, victim advocate and true crime survivor Amy B. Chesler (http://www.amybchesler.com) .

On What Came Next (http://www.instagram.com/whatcamenext_podcast) , you’ll hear firsthand accounts from those impacted, with behind the scenes insights about what came next for survivors after their stories were shared with the world, and how the media impacts crime victims and their loved ones.

What Came Next Broken Cycle Media

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What happens after the experiences of true crime survivors have been shared with the world? Does the media truly capture all it entails to survive such tragedy in the public eye? What comes after the convictions are in, the cameras stop rolling, and the court of public opinion has spoken? Can sharing our stories lead to justice, and is there ever really justice?

These questions and many more are discussed on the new true crime docuseries podcast brought to you by Broken Cycle Media (https://www.brokencyclemedia.com/) .

What Came Next (http://www.instagram.com/whatcamenext_podcast) is co-created and produced by Something Was Wrong (http://www.somethingwaswrong.com) ’s Tiffany Reese and host, award-winning writer, victim advocate and true crime survivor Amy B. Chesler (http://www.amybchesler.com) .

On What Came Next (http://www.instagram.com/whatcamenext_podcast) , you’ll hear firsthand accounts from those impacted, with behind the scenes insights about what came next for survivors after their stories were shared with the world, and how the media impacts crime victims and their loved ones.

    [Matt Cohn] The Human Cost Is Too High // Part 2

    [Matt Cohn] The Human Cost Is Too High // Part 2

    Content warning: suicidal ideation, suicide, substance abuse, substance use disorder, violence, brutality, institutional abuse, child abuse, physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse, cults, kidnapping, and the troubled teen industry.

    As shared in Part 1 of his story, Matt Cohn is a business professional and musician from Los Angeles, California. His personal history with What Came Next host, Amy, begins in the early 2000s when they were connected through mutual friends. At the time, Matt had just been released from the troubled teen industry, and shared very little of his experiences of abuse. In fact, it wasn't until he watched the 2024 Netflix documentary, The Program: Cons, Cults, and Kidnapping, that he was confronted with the extent of all of the horrors he had seen and faced. Admittedly, it was a validating, eye opening experience for him to watch the documentary. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for his candidness today, as well as all of his efforts he's making to change the troubled teen industry.

    The Program: Cons, Cults, & Kidnapping:
    https://www.netflix.com/title/81579761

    The Public Health Post on the TTI:
    https://publichealthpost.org/mental-behavioral-health/troubled-teen-industry/

    Research & Articles on the TTI via Unsilenced:
    https://www.unsilenced.org/research/

    National Youth Rights Association on the TTI:
    https://www.youthrights.org/issues/medical-autonomy/the-troubled-teen-industry/

    Government Accountability Office on 'Residential Programs:'
    https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-08-713t

    American Bar Association: Five Facts About TTI
    https://www.americanbar.org/groups/litigation/resources/newsletters/childrens-rights/five-facts-about-troubled-teen-industry/

    Senate Hearing on TTI:
    https://imprintnews.org/top-stories/senate-investigation-slams-residential-treatment-centers-for-children-as-warehouses-of-neglect/250056

    For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

    Thank you again to Babbel for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget about our special limited time deal for our listeners: that's 55% off your Babbel subscription, but only for listeners - at babbel.com/WCN - Rules and restrictions might apply. 

    • 43 min
    [Matt Cohn] Thrilled to See the Stars // Part 1

    [Matt Cohn] Thrilled to See the Stars // Part 1

    Content warning: violence, brutality, institutional abuse, child abuse, physical, emotional, mental, and sexual abuse, cults, kidnapping, and the troubled teen industry.

    Matt Cohn is a business professional and musician from Los Angeles, California. His personal history with What Came Next host, Amy, begins in the early 2000s when they were connected through mutual friends. At the time, Matt had just been released from the troubled teen industry, and shared very little of his experiences of abuse. In fact, it wasn't until he watched the  2024 Netflix documentary, The Program: Cons, Cults, and Kidnapping, that he was confronted with the extent of all of the horrors he had seen and faced. Admittedly, it was a validating, eye opening experience for him to watch the documentary. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for his candidness today, as well as all of his efforts he's making to change the troubled teen industry.

    The Program: Cons, Cults, & Kidnapping:
    https://www.netflix.com/title/81579761

    The Public Health Post on the TTI:
    https://publichealthpost.org/mental-behavioral-health/troubled-teen-industry/

    Research & Articles on the TTI via Unsilenced:
    https://www.unsilenced.org/research/

    National Youth Rights Association on the TTI:
    https://www.youthrights.org/issues/medical-autonomy/the-troubled-teen-industry/

    For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

    • 26 min
    [Andrea Dunlop] Stories That Need to be Told

    [Andrea Dunlop] Stories That Need to be Told

    Content warning: child abuse, sexual assault, medical abuse, factitious disorder, factitious disorder imposed on another, and munchausen by proxy.

    Andrea Dunlop is an author, podcaster, and victim advocate from Seattle, Washington. Although her career began in the fictional literary world, Andrea found herself compelled to share her family's experiences, adjacent to the novel she was writing that discussed the disorder Munchausen by proxy. Andrea also chose to share her story via her podcast, Nobody Should Believe Me, which has gone on to spawn four powerful seasons surrounding the often misrepresented topic, Factitious disorder imposed on another. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly grateful that Andrea is joining us to share her knowledge, expertise, and about her own personal journey.

    Andrea's website:
    https://www.andreadunlop.net/

    Andrea's books:
    https://www.andreadunlop.net/books

    Nobody Should Believe Me podcast:
    https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/

    Munchausen Support website:
    https://www.munchausensupport.com/

    Marc Feldman's books:
    https://www.munchausen.com/books/

    For a list of related resources and non-profit organizations, please visit: somethingwaswrong.com/resources

    • 33 min
    [Eric Johnson] This Isn't the End of His Story // Part 2

    [Eric Johnson] This Isn't the End of His Story // Part 2

    Content warning: mental illness, animal abuse, animal cruelty, violence, domestic violence, and murder.

    As shared in Part 1 of his story, Eric Johnson is a security professional, author, co-victim of murder, and victim advocate from Michigan. He launched himself towards a career designed to protect and serve the safety of consumers at a very young age. However, his career in victim advocacy would begin after losing his father Bill and Bill’s beloved dog to domestic violence in 2021. What came next in terms of the legal system and in terms of his healing is a testament to Eric’s strength and fortitude, and the Broken cycle Media team is immensely grateful he was willing to share his time and perspective with us this week.

    This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Bill Johnson.

    Eric's Linktree:
    https://linktr.ee/ericjauthor

    Eric's Book, My Father's Story: The Murder of the Best Man I've Ever Known:
    https://amzn.to/3K4z26P

    Eric’s Instagram:
    https://www.instagram.com/ericjauthor1

    Mark Manson's Author Page:
    https://www.amazon.com/stores/Mark-Manson/author/B00BIJOMOC

    For a list of related non-profit organizations & resources, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

    Thank you again to Miracle Made for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made. Go to try miracle.com/wcn and use the code 'WCN' to claim your free three piece towel set and save over 40%. Again, that's TryMiracle.com/WCN to treat yourself!

    • 33 min
    [Eric Johnson] Time Stood Still // Part 1

    [Eric Johnson] Time Stood Still // Part 1

    Content warning: mental illness, animal abuse, animal cruelty, violence, domestic violence, and murder.

    Eric Johnson is a security professional, author, co-victim of murder, and victim advocate from Michigan. He launched himself towards a career designed to protect and serve the safety of consumers at a very young age. However, his career in victim advocacy would begin after losing his father Bill (and Bill’s beloved dog) to domestic violence in 2021. What came next in terms of the legal system and in terms of his healing is a testament to Eric’s immense strength and fortitude, and the Broken cycle Media team is immensely grateful he was willing to share his time and perspective with us this week.

    This episode is dedicated in loving memory of Bill Johnson.

    Eric's Linktree:
    https://linktr.ee/ericjauthor

    Eric's Book, My Father's Story: The Murder of the Best Man I've Ever Known:
    https://amzn.to/3K4z26P

    Eric’s Instagram:
    https://www.instagram.com/ericjauthor1

    For a list of related non-profit organizations & resources, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

    Thank you again to Detective Perspective podcast and to Babbel for sponsoring this episode. Don't forget to subscribe to Detective Perspective Podcast and listen every Monday on podcasting platforms and Tuesday on YouTube! Also, don't forget about our special limited time Babbel deal for our listeners. Right now, you can get 55% off your subscription - but only for our listeners - at babbel.com/WCN (rules and restrictions may apply).

    • 29 min
    [Tabatha Ross-Brown] Believed Instead of Blamed

    [Tabatha Ross-Brown] Believed Instead of Blamed

    Content warning: domestic violence, domestic abuse, physical, verbal, mental, and emotional abuse, child-to-parent violence, child-to-family violence, sibling abuse, elder abuse, intrafamilial abuse, murder, and familicide.

    Tabatha Ross-Brown is a Michigan familywoman, certified mental health support specialist, victim advocate, and founder of the non-profit organization Parent Real Talk. After providing her services to parents-in-need, Tabatha came to realize that America severely lacked awareness and available resources for families experiencing violence or abuse by a child-age perpetrator. She set out on a mission geared towards awareness, treatment, and prevention of child-to-family - and more specifically child-to-caregiver - violence. Her efforts have included the establishment of the very first American-based child-to-parent violence Awareness Day in several counties in Michigan, and her goal is to establish a nationwide awareness day. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful for this advocate interview with Tabatha, as well as all of her time, expertise, and related work.

    Sources:

    United Kingdom Law: United Kingdom Domestic Abuse Statutory Guidance

    Florida 2017 Legislation: Support for Parental Victims of Child Domestic Violence

    Danger assessment: https://www.dangerassessment.org/uploads/DA_NewScoring_2019.pdf (CPVA adult and minor child danger assessment attached)

    Roundtable Discussion YouTube video: https://youtu.be/p6DAO2wAztA?si=jSTxydjz8ImRZDbl

    Breakaway Videos: Escape From Clothing Grab, Escape From A Bear Hug, Defense Against Punches, Safety Stance

    Resources:

    Parent Real Talk nonprofit organization: https://www.parentrealtalk.com/

    PEGS: Parent Education Growth Support: https://www.pegsupport.co.uk/join-in-cpa-awareness-day

    Roundtable Discussion Informational Booklet w/ Michigan Commissioner's Recognition: https://www.parentrealtalk.com/cpva2023

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LetsGetRealwithParentTalk

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lets_get_real_with_parent_talk/

    Trauma Resource Institute: https://www.traumaresourceinstitute.com/crm

    iCHILL Wellness App: https://www.ichillapp.com/

    • 40 min

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