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Is it okay to ask your coworker how much they make? Is Gen Z set up for failure in the workplace? Should you really bring your whole self to work? Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew's resident career experts Kaila and Kyle—whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit, and startup sectors—debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them.

  1. 3 days ago

    BONUS: The Career Advice We Wish We Knew in Our 20s (Live)

    In this special bonus episode, Kaila and Kyle tape their very first live episode at Verizon HQ in Basking Ridge, New Jersey. Listen to hear Kaila and Kyle share what they learned from their own early career experiences with Verizon’s intern class (aka VTerns), as well as hear professional insights and advice from Christina Schelling, Verizon’s own SVP of Human Resources (whose early career experiences include working for the CIA). 00:00 Intro 03:08 Kaila’s internship experience at Goldman Sachs 04:19 Kyle’s first career experiences 08:57 On figuring out what you want to do with your career 11:41 The 30-60-90 Framework 16:41 On learning from your bosses 17:47 Using naivete to your advantage 19:59 SVP of Human Resources, Christina Schelling 22:02 Christina’s experience at the CIA 26:41 The unexpected skills that are becoming more valuable today 30:25 The areas that young professionals should focus on developing in the first 5 years 35:33 The cost of perfectionism in your career 39:37 The questions young professionals should ask in interviews This episode was sponsored by Verizon. Visit mycareer.verizon.com to apply to open roles and learn more about working at Verizon today. Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

    BONUS: The Career Advice We Wish We Knew in Our 20s (Live)

  2. 6 days ago

    Why “Good Enough” Is Better for Your Career

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss why perfectionism is actually a negative at work (and in life), and how to overcome it. And as a self-proclaimed recovering perfectionist, Kaila offers some excellent tactics and tips.  00:00 Intro 01:48 The misconception about perfectionism 06:16 The impacts of perfectionism 14:38 On whether we overrate intelligence 16:22 Measuring the delta between time and output 19:31 100 rejections in 100 days Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

    Why “Good Enough” Is Better for Your Career

  3. 10 Aug

    The Most Overrated Work Perks (And the Ones You're Ignoring)

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle dig into and debate the most overrated and underrated work perks, and how to make the most of the ones you’re probably overlooking. Summer Fridays? Education credits? Unlimited PTO? You might be surprised by some of their controversial takes.  00:00 Intro 00:14 Reviewing the Morning Brew company party 05:09 Kaila’s party strength vs. Kyle’s party strength 06:53 Are company parties a good work perk? 08:42 Underrated work perk #1  10:28 Underrated work perk #2  11:37 Underrated work perk #3  14:15 Underrated work perk #4  15:04 Underrated work perk #5  16:18 Overrated work perk #1  18:35 Overrated work perk #2  21:57 Overrated work perk #3  24:45 Overrated work perk #4 Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

    The Most Overrated Work Perks (And the Ones You're Ignoring)

  4. 6 Jul

    Does a Real Vacation Even Exist Anymore?

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle debate whether or not taking a real vacation even exists anymore, and provide tactics for how to protect your off time. Can you ever really fully log off in a world with flexible working conditions? And how can we reclaim PTO? 00:00 Intro 02:20 How we got to the state of the working “vacation” 06:59 The real vs imagined expectations of your employer 11:08 Setting clear expectations with your team 14:32 Flexibility’s pros and cons 21:27 The other reason we can’t fully log off anymore 25:20 Other tactics for getting your vacation time back Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

    Does a Real Vacation Even Exist Anymore?

  5. 29 Jun

    The Career Advice You Need at 25, 35, and 45

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Cherry Miao, CFO of Hightouch, who gets into the art of conducting an effective job interview, how she susses out a job candidate’s mindset, and what she thinks should be changed about the job interview process in general. She also breaks down the skills that are most important to hone in each stage of your career—from your first entry-level job all the way to the C-Suite.  00:00 Intro 01:06 The art of the interview, and how Cherry identifies top talent in interviews 07:27 The blameless retro 09:26 Mindset vs skillset 11:05 What Cherry would like to see changed about the hiring process 13:25 The anti-sell interview 15:29 The most important skill to develop as an early career professional 18:41 Advice for the transition into mid-career 23:37 What C-suite level professionals should be focused on Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

    The Career Advice You Need at 25, 35, and 45

  6. 15 Jun

    The Surprising Power of Constraints at Work (with David Epstein)

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by author David Epstein to discuss the topic of his latest book, Inside the Box: How Constraints Make Us Better. Listen to hear why constraints increase both productivity and creativity, and how to implement them on your own to help you in work and life. 00:00 Intro 02:05 The story of General Magic 06:02 Additive bias 09:14 Brooks’s Law 12:34 How Bell Labs is an example of useful constraints 14:48 Can removing constraints ever be beneficial? 19:31 How do we build a constraint to prevent distraction? 23:49 David’s observations on AI’s impact on human productivity  27:30 Creativity and the Green Eggs and Ham Effect 31:07 What is the relationship between creativity, expertise, and constraints? 35:08 Is having unlimited professional options actually good career advice? 39:28 Decision-making and Fredkin’s Paradox  41:00 How David’s two books Range and Inside the Box tie into one another Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

    The Surprising Power of Constraints at Work (with David Epstein)

  7. 1 Jun

    The Rise of the Career Generalist (and Why It Matters More Than Ever)

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle are joined by Milly Tamati, the founder of generalist.world, to talk about the benefits of being a career generalist (vs. a specialist), what people get wrong about generalists, and how to start building a portfolio career.  00:00 Intro  01:29 Defining what a “generalist” is 02:27 What does a long-term generalist career look like? 04:42 What people get wrong about specialists vs generalists 07:39 How do you figure out your strengths and fit as a generalist? 14:52 What is a “portfolio career”? 21:16 Are there certain personalities that are best suited for a portfolio career? 23:06 How Milly is thinking about AI 27:03 Is it more beneficial in the long run to be a generalist given the AI boom? 31:57 Per My Last Policy Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

    The Rise of the Career Generalist (and Why It Matters More Than Ever)

  8. 25 May

    Retirement Has Changed—Here’s How to Plan For What It’s Really Like

    In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss all things retirement—how the concept of retirement has changed, how they’re financially planning for their own retirements, and what their ideal retirement looks like.  00:00 Intro 01:33 What does retirement look like right now? 08:48 How Kaila and Kyle approach the financial element of retirement 12:58 Thinking about the non-financial aspects of retirement 22:30 Mini retirements 25:45 Where Kaila and Kyle plan to retire 31:13 Per My Last Policy This episode was sponsored by Granola. Head to granola.ai/brew to try Granola for free. That’s granola.ai/brew to try it today for FREE.  Find Granola-generated notes on this episode here: https://notes.granola.ai/t/a9006ea5-1bbd-41d5-855f-b456a44d2822-009c2hma Want to get all of Kaila & Kyle’s career resources? Subscribe to Per My Last Email: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/  Watch Per My Last Email on YouTube:   @PerMYLastEmailShow Follow Per My Last Email Instagram: @permylastemailshow TikTok: @permylastemailshow Twitter: @permylast_email Have a question for us? Send us an email or voice note to permylastemail@morningbrew.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!

    Retirement Has Changed—Here’s How to Plan For What It’s Really Like
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Is it okay to ask your coworker how much they make? Is Gen Z set up for failure in the workplace? Should you really bring your whole self to work? Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew's resident career experts Kaila and Kyle—whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit, and startup sectors—debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them.

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