When Words Fail...Music Speaks

James Cox

"When Words Fail, Music Speaks" is your sonic sanctuary, a podcast dedicated to exploring the profound ways music shapes our lives, emotions, and connections. Join us as we dive deep into the melodies, rhythms, and harmonies that articulate what words simply cannot. This is more than just a music podcast; it's an exploration of the human experience through the universal language of music. Each episode features insightful conversations, captivating stories, and expert analysis, unraveling the power of music in all its forms. From classical compositions that stir the soul to contemporary anthems that define generations, we cover a wide spectrum of genres and artists. Discover how music influences everything from our mental well-being and cultural identities to our social movements and personal memories Whether you're a seasoned audiophile, a casual listener, or someone seeking solace and understanding, "When Words Fail, Music Speaks" offers something for everyone. Tune in to discover new artists, revisit old favorites, and gain a deeper appreciation for the art form that unites us all. Subscribe now and let the music speak to you. Join our community of music lovers as we explore the harmonies of life, one episode at a time. Because sometimes, when words fail, music speaks.

  1. Episode 476 - Unmasking Metal Myths: Kyle Thomas from ExHorder Discusses Honesty, Aggression, Healing in Songwriting

    1 DAY AGO

    Episode 476 - Unmasking Metal Myths: Kyle Thomas from ExHorder Discusses Honesty, Aggression, Healing in Songwriting

    Welcome back to When Words Fail, Music Speaks, the podcast where host James Cox explores how melody and rhythm become lifelines for those battling depression and anxiety. In today’s episode, James sits down with Kyle Thomas—the raw‑voiced frontman of New Orleans thrash legends ExHorder!! Together they journey from the gritty beginnings of the band in the mid‑80s through four pivotal albums, unpacking the evolution of Kyle’s lyrics—from teenage outrage at organized religion to today’s more nuanced, honest storytelling. A rapid‑fire “lightning round” reveals Kyle’s unexpected love for Depeche Mode and Duran Duran, his philosophy that metal should stay fun rather than take itself too seriously, and the crucial lesson that technical fireworks mean nothing without genuine connection. Listeners also get a behind‑the‑scenes glimpse of Pat O’Brien’s (Ex Cannibal Corpse) comeback with Exploder, the band’s shift toward streamlined songwriting, and Kyle’s personal ritual of turning pain into cathartic verses. As the conversation winds down, Kyle shares the one album that still pulls at his soul—Black Sabbath’s debut—reminding us that even the darkest riffs can hold a timeless, soul‑shaking resonance. Tune in for an honest, high‑energy deep‑dive into how heavy music can both weaponize aggression and heal the heart, proving once again that when words fall short, the music always finds a way to speak.

    28 min
  2. Episode 475 - Healing Through Beats: Kenneth Perrin’s Journey from Childhood Drummer to Faith‑Driven Songwriter

    15 JAN

    Episode 475 - Healing Through Beats: Kenneth Perrin’s Journey from Childhood Drummer to Faith‑Driven Songwriter

    Welcome back to When Words Fail, Music Speaks, the show where we explore how melody, rhythm, and lyric can lift us out of the darkest moments. I’m your host, James Cox, a lifelong believer in music’s healing power, and today I’m thrilled to sit down with an artist whose honesty, faith, and genre‑blending spirit make every track feel like a conversation with the soul. Meet Kenneith Perrin – a true “music mutt” who began his journey at eight, first behind a drum kit and later as a vocalist in his dad’s church. From early days mimicking Soul‑Train performances to head‑lining clubs, festivals, and worship services, Kenneith’s story is a testament to staying curious, staying authentic, and never letting anyone box you in. In this episode we’ll: Trace his musical roots – how a bassist‑dad, a church debut, and an early love for disco, funk, R&B, and later new‑wave and rock shaped his sound.Dive deep into his 2020 pandemic anthem “Erased by Mercy.” Kenneith explains the song’s raw confession of repentance, the grace he found in surrender, and why it still resounds for listeners battling doubt.Talk tour life – preview his upcoming 2026 Melodic Heart & Soul tour, from the Garden Grove Fest to Fire Forge Brewery in Greenville, SC, and how he blends intimate worship with high‑energy club gigs.Unpack his musical DNA – from MC Hammer, Sister Sledge, and Missing Persons to modern gospel, country, metal, and even guilty‑pleasure pop (Backstreet Boys, Beach Boys). He shares the moments when fans—whether in a church pew or at a Whiskey A Go‑Go—have told him his songs saved them.Reflect on faith & purpose – how his Christian walk informs every lyric, and the simple yet powerful message he hopes every listener walks away with: “You’re never alone; there’s always a song that can lift you up.” Whether you’re a struggling artist, a music lover searching for hope, or just curious about the crossroads of faith and creative expression, this conversation offers both inspiration and practical insight. Grab your coffee (or a Bones‑flavored brew), press play, and let Kenneith’s story remind you why, when words fail, music always finds a way to speak.

    33 min
  3. Episode 474 -  How Music and Imagination Saved Me: Chris Kaufman’s Creative Journey

    1 JAN

    Episode 474 - How Music and Imagination Saved Me: Chris Kaufman’s Creative Journey

    Welcome back to When Words Fail, Music Speaks, the podcast where host James Cox explores how music can lift us out of depression and open doors to imagination. In today’s episode, James sits down with the multitalented composer‑author Christopher Kaufman—a Brooklyn‑based classical composer, storyteller, and environmental sound‑artist whose work fuses symphonic scores, natural soundscapes, and illustrated fantasy. We’ll hear Christopher describe life in his peaceful Brooklyn neighborhood, the eclectic musical “vibes” that swirl from jazz ensembles to full‑blown orchestras, and how his lifelong love for Stravinsky, Metallica and classic fantasy literature fuels his creative engine. Through a rapid‑fire “lightning round,” he reveals his artistic rituals—ink versus instruments, favorite mythic creatures, and the superpower he’d pick for a day (perfect emotional pitch). Christopher then takes us inside his magnum opus, Tales of the Ocean City, a series of eight immersive “audio‑books” that blend orchestral storytelling, original illustrations, and video‑book experiences. He explains how musical tension and resolution shape narrative arcs, how his telepathic Pegasus‑like “Parianths” echo his childhood bond with a beloved dog, and why an organ‑driven theme for King Brohuyn and an electric‑guitar leitmotif for the bard Elah perfectly capture each character’s spirit. We’ll also explore his belief that imagination can literally heal: by turning the gray sameness of modern life into vivid, musical worlds, we can push back against depression and find hope. Finally, Christopher shares upcoming projects—book 8 of the series, his “Fantastic Theater” performances, and the ever‑growing sound‑artist community on SoundArtists.com, Instagram, and Facebook. Stick around for a sneak‑peek audio excerpt from Tales of the Ocean City, and discover why, for James and Christopher, when words fall short, music tells the whole story. 🎧✨

    39 min
  4. Episode 472 - Music, Wine, and Community | The Brian Culbertson Story

    16/12/2025

    Episode 472 - Music, Wine, and Community | The Brian Culbertson Story

    In today’s episode, host James Cox sits down with Chicago‑born jazz virtuoso Brian Culbertson – a multi‑instrumentalist, composer, producer, and the man behind the acclaimed album “Day Trip.” From Brian’s early days tinkering on piano at eight, picking up trombone in the school band, and discovering the magic of a home studio at twelve, to his modern‑day workflow that blends live horns, synth‑laden beats, and the Output Arcade plug‑in that sparked the track “Sandcastles,” the conversation drifts through: The instrument journey: why piano became his songwriting hub, how drums shaped his groove sense, and the challenge of playing piano passages that push his limits. Music theory & learning: a down‑to‑earth take on why theory is “baby steps” and how a good teacher can make it approachable for anyone. Creative influences: everything from Earth, Wind & Fire and Tower of Power to classical, EDM, Mongolian metal (The Hu) and dark hip‑hop—showing how eclectic listening fuels fresh ideas. Production vs. performance: why the studio feels like home, the painstaking process of polishing a record, and the tricks he uses to translate studio vibes to a live stage. The “Day Trip” story: how nine songs were written in just four days with co‑writer Nicholas Cole, and the emotional contrast between rapid bursts of inspiration and years‑long labors of love. Beyond the music: Brian’s passion for wine, the creation of his signature blends, the Napa Valley Jazz Getaway he co‑hosts, and the balance of artistry with entrepreneurship. Get ready for a deep dive into a musician’s mindset, a handful of quirky anecdotes (no secret studio rituals—just a shower and a good vibe), and plenty of tips for anyone who dreams of turning a musical spark into a polished record. Press play, lean back, and let the conversation remind you why, when words fall short, music always finds a way to speak.

    55 min
  5. Episode 471 - Faith, Funk, and Free Jazz: Insights from Grammy‑Winning Composer Fletch Wiley

    09/12/2025

    Episode 471 - Faith, Funk, and Free Jazz: Insights from Grammy‑Winning Composer Fletch Wiley

    Welcome back to When Words Fail Music Speaks, the show that explores how music can lift us out of depression, anxiety, and everyday struggles. In today’s episode, host James Cox—your “professional handicapped” guide to the power of sound—sits down with Grammy‑winning arranger, composer, and multi‑instrumentalist Fletch Wiley. We dive deep into Fletch’s remarkable story: a childhood trumpeter from Seattle who chased his dream to the University of North Texas, survived a battle with drugs, found a life‑changing conversion to Christianity in 1971, and has since devoted his talent to ministry, touring the world with his wife under the Heart and Art initiative. From the nuts‑and‑bolts of jazz—Fletch’s recommendations for newcomers (Chuck Mangione, Kirk Whalum, Chris Bodie) and his take on the “all‑wrong‑notes” myth—to the art of arranging across genres (worship, film scoring, children’s music, theater, and big‑band projects), the conversation reveals why he believes jazz is “the highest form of music” because it demands real‑time improvisation, listening, and technical mastery. Listeners will also get practical tips for getting into jazz, a behind‑the‑scenes look at his global benefit concerts (Turkey, Egypt, Albania, Nigeria, South Africa), and a few lightning‑round fun facts that showcase his personality—favorite coffee, dream super‑band lineup, the instrument that would complain the most, and the single piece that moves his soul (Beethoven’s 2nd Movement of the 7th Symphony). Whether you’re a seasoned jazz aficionado, a country‑music lover, or simply searching for the therapeutic resonance of melody, this episode offers inspiration, humor, and a heartfelt reminder that music really does speak—and can heal. Tune in, settle in, and let Fletch Wiley’s story and wisdom harmonize with your own journey.

    52 min
  6. Episode 470 - Exploring Jazz as Therapy: Kurt Ellenberger Talks Kind of Blue and Musical Healing

    04/12/2025

    Episode 470 - Exploring Jazz as Therapy: Kurt Ellenberger Talks Kind of Blue and Musical Healing

    Welcome back to When Words Fail, Music Speaks, the show that explores how music can lift us out of the valleys of depression and anxiety and into brighter emotional terrain. In today’s episode, host James sits down with pianist, composer, educator, and prolific writer Kurt Ellenberger for a deep‑dive into the world of jazz, its pedagogy, and its power to heal. We’ll hear Kurt recount his path from a performing career in Grand Rapids, Michigan, to a long‑standing faculty role at Grand Valley State University where he teaches everything from “Jazz in the Culture” to a beloved interdisciplinary course, “Music, Culture, and Aesthetics.” He shares practical advice for newcomers who feel intimidated by jazz—starting with the universally‑accessible Miles Davis classic Kind of Blue—and explains why jazz demands full, focused listening in the way classical music does, unlike the background‑friendly nature of pop or country. Kurt also opens up about his parallel life as a writer and managing editor of the Journal of the International Association of Jazz Educators. From a blog that caught the eye of the Huffington Post to a series of essays that demystify everything from why Christmas music feels “jazzy” to the emotional weight of minor chords, his mission is simple: turn scholarly insight into stories anyone can enjoy. We’ll explore how jazz varies across continents, why European and Australian approaches sound distinct yet remain unmistakably jazz, and why the genre is less a fixed style and more an improvisational mindset. Kurt even reveals a surprising non‑musical talent—his knack for home‑repair and hammer‑work—that keeps him grounded when the academic world gets heavy. Finally, we close with Kurt’s personal “Rushmore” of musical heroes—Genesis, pianist John Taylor, composer Paul Hindemith, and David Bowie—plus a secret, deeply moving piece that leaves him speechless every time he hears it. If you’ve ever wondered how to get into jazz, why it’s sometimes dismissed as “wrong notes,” or simply want a heartfelt conversation about music’s therapeutic power, you’re in the right place. Grab your headphones, set aside the background noise, and let’s tune into the conversation that proves—once again—when words fail, music truly speaks.

    54 min
  7. Episode 469 - Alan Govenar on Healing Through Blues, Film, and Disability Advocacy

    27/11/2025

    Episode 469 - Alan Govenar on Healing Through Blues, Film, and Disability Advocacy

    Welcome back to When Words Fail Music Streaks, the podcast where we battle depression with the transformative power of music. I’m your host, James Cox—your “handicapped” guide through the stories that keep us moving when life gets heavy. In today’s episode we sit down with award‑winning writer, filmmaker, playwright, and cultural documentarian Alan Govnar (who kindly corrects us on the title of his newest novel, Come Round Right). Alan’s career spans more than three decades of preserving the music of everyday people: from his landmark 1984 Living Texas Blues project for the Dallas Museum of Art, to an intimate portrait of blues scene in Deepum, to his groundbreaking documentaries that put disability‑rights narratives front‑and‑center. We’ll explore hotly debated questions like: Where did the blues really begin? — Texas, the Mississippi Delta, or Memphis? — and hear Alan’s compelling argument that blues emerged from the African diaspora and found early written references in Texas. Beyond blues, Alan reveals how his personal hearing of Dizzy Gillespie, Charlie Parker, and New Orleans R&B as a four‑year‑old sparked a lifelong quest to document music that speaks to the soul, no matter how “un‑virtuosic” it may seem. His stories range from a hunchback dwarf tattoo artist in a wheelchair to the polio‑stricken African drummer Siddiqui Conde, whose student Aaron Phillips (now a trans Vogue cover model) turned a Tumblr following into the inspiring memoir This Kid Can Fly. We’ll also get a sneak peek at Alan’s newest feature, Quiet Voices in a Noisy World: The Struggle for Change in Jasper, Texas, premiering at Cinema Village in New York this November—a powerful look at a community healing from the trauma of a 1998 lynching. If you’re a fan of music history, social justice, or simply crave stories that turn hardship into hope stay tuned. Grab your headphones, let the rhythm lift you, and get ready for a conversation that proves music can indeed speak louder than depression. 🎙️✨

    37 min

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"When Words Fail, Music Speaks" is your sonic sanctuary, a podcast dedicated to exploring the profound ways music shapes our lives, emotions, and connections. Join us as we dive deep into the melodies, rhythms, and harmonies that articulate what words simply cannot. This is more than just a music podcast; it's an exploration of the human experience through the universal language of music. Each episode features insightful conversations, captivating stories, and expert analysis, unraveling the power of music in all its forms. From classical compositions that stir the soul to contemporary anthems that define generations, we cover a wide spectrum of genres and artists. Discover how music influences everything from our mental well-being and cultural identities to our social movements and personal memories Whether you're a seasoned audiophile, a casual listener, or someone seeking solace and understanding, "When Words Fail, Music Speaks" offers something for everyone. Tune in to discover new artists, revisit old favorites, and gain a deeper appreciation for the art form that unites us all. Subscribe now and let the music speak to you. Join our community of music lovers as we explore the harmonies of life, one episode at a time. Because sometimes, when words fail, music speaks.