In this episode of Women in the Nude, Sasha Pieterse sits down with Leslie Clingenpeel, CEO of The Spring, Oklahoma’s only faith-based certified shelter serving survivors of domestic violence, sexual assault, human trafficking, and stalking, for one of the podcast’s most powerful and eye-opening conversations yet.Leslie opens up about the realities of human trafficking that most people never see, breaking down the myths Hollywood has created and revealing how trafficking often happens through manipulation, trauma bonds, family systems, and vulnerability, not strangers in dark alleys. She shares what it’s like working directly alongside law enforcement to recover victims, the emotional weight of hearing survivors’ stories, and the groundbreaking trauma-informed model her organization is building to help survivors heal long term.Together, Sasha and Leslie discuss the importance of mental health, boundaries, healthy masculinity, consent, advocacy, and why healing requires both compassion and systemic change. From survivor support to legislative reform, this episode shines a light on the hard truths while also offering hope, resilience, and practical ways people can help.This conversation is raw, emotional, deeply human, and a reminder that awareness without action is not enough.Human trafficking often looks very different than what people imagineVulnerability, coercion, and emotional manipulation are at the center of exploitationSurvivors need long-term support, not just crisis interventionTrauma-informed care can completely change outcomes for victimsMental health, boundaries, and community support are essential when doing difficult workHealthy conversations around consent, relationships, and masculinity matter deeplyReal change happens when advocacy, legislation, and survivor voices work togetherAbout Leslie ClingenpeelLeslie Clingenpeel is the CEO of The Spring, Oklahoma’s only faith-based certified shelter serving survivors of domestic violence, sexual assault, stalking, and human trafficking. She is a credentialed domestic and sexual violence response professional, policy advocate, and co-chair of the Oklahoma Coalition Against Trafficking. Under her leadership, The Spring has expanded its trauma-informed services and launched innovative survivor-centered programs focused on long-term healing and recovery.Follow & ConnectFollow guest: @thespringokFollow the podcast: @witnpodcastSUPPORT THE SHOWSupport the show by grabbing our merch, designed to spark conversations and bring the message of Women in the Nude into the real world.www.witnpodcast.com