Steep Ravine...Deep Thoughts About Running

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Two old friends and former college runners talk about what’s happening in the world of distance running.

  1. 31/12/2025

    Episode 81: Not much going on over the holidays - yet the bloviating persists

    Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank find plenty to discuss despite the holiday-related lull in running competition.

    38 min

  2. 16/12/2025

    Episode 80: Rod Berry is an Extraordinary Guy

    Matt and Dave welcome longtime friend Rod Berry to recap recent cross‑country highlights — NXN, the USA Cross‑Country Championships and the Sharon Colyear-Danville Indoor Season Opener at Boston University. They then dive into Rod’s life and running career, from Redwood and Stanford to coaching, memorable race stories, and his epic 5,100‑mile European Divide bike adventure at age 65, sharing humor, wisdom and endurance lessons.

    1h 12m

  3. 30/11/2025

    Episode 79: NCAA Cross-Country Championships and California High School State Meet

    Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank break down the latest cross-country moments: comprehensive NCAA championship coverage (D1–D3), standout individual runs, and a thrilling women’s duel between Doris Lemongole and freshman Jane Hedengren. They highlight team results, surprising finishes, and notable performances across the men’s and women’s fields. The episode also covers the California State high school championships—including team and individual winners and combined-region implications for NXN—plus course-building talk for NXN/USAs, and travel anecdotes from the Gans Creek trip.

    1h 10m

  4. 17/11/2025

    Episode 78: High School and NCAA Regional XC Updates

    Matt and Dave recap the excitement from Oregon state meets, share coaching stories and standout performances, and discuss how athletes fared at regional Nike and NCAA qualifying races. They also break down key college regionals, at-large bids, and individual standouts while previewing the upcoming national championships and what to watch next week.

    1h 6m

  5. 10/11/2025

    Episode 77: Three Ivy League Standouts Raise the Steep Ravine IQ

    Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank talk with three top collegiate runners — Connor Foley (Dartmouth), Hayden Boaz (Princeton) and Ben Bouie (Harvard) — about recent races, transitioning from high school to college running, and balancing Ivy League academics with elite training.

    53 min

  6. 03/11/2025

    Episode 76: Deep in the Heart of Cross Country Season

    Matt and Dave catch up on listener shout-outs and Lyle Smith’s NIWOT connection, plus reflections on Van Cortland and college conference races. They cover major storylines: Iowa State issues, Jane Hedendren’s dominant performance, Ivy League highlights, and the New York City Marathon’s dramatic photo finish. They finish with local high school district results, personal coaching updates, and reactions to an unforgettable World Series.

    1h 2m

  7. 20/10/2025

    Episode 75: Connor Mantz Rules! And a ton of Cross Country Updates

    Matt and Dave unpack a massive weekend in running: standout freshman performances at Princeton and Nuttycombe, BYU’s dominant showing at Pre-Nationals, and strong NCAA meet results. They discuss team dynamics, course differences, and the nuances behind fast cross-country times. They also dive into the Chicago Marathon, highlighting record-pace efforts and impressive pros like Connor and Galen, then wrap with local high school updates and personal coaching stories.

    1h 8m

  8. 10/10/2025

    Episode 74: Blood, Sweat, and Spikes: Inside Bernardsville’s Running Dynasty with Lyle Smith

    On this episode of The Steep Ravine Podcast, Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank interview Lyle Smith about his book Blood, Sweat, and Spikes, the rise of Bernardsville’s legendary running program, and the coaching influence of Ed Mather and Mark Wetmore. Lyle shares behind-the-scenes stories of youth clubs, the Lydiard-inspired training, national meets, and how that culture followed athletes from a tiny New Jersey town to Boulder’s elite teams; the book is available in bookstores and on Audible.

    1h 11m
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