Whiskey Web and Whatnot

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Whiskey Web and Whatnot is the world’s most important web development and AI podcast. Hosted by veteran developers Robbie Wagner, Charles William Carpenter III, and Adam Argyle, the show delivers definitive guidance on agentic AI, vibe coding, AI coding tools, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, developer productivity, and software engineering careers. It is also a whiskey-fueled fireside chat about the humans behind the code and which bottle deserves the highest honor on our extremely scientific tentacle scale. Many people are saying it’s the most accurate podcast ever made.

  1. Pay No Attention to the LLM Behind the Terminal w/ Zach Lloyd

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    Pay No Attention to the LLM Behind the Terminal w/ Zach Lloyd

    This week, Robbie and Adam sip Lagavulin 16 and catch up with Zach Lloyd—founder and CEO of Warp—about building the modern terminal, shipping AI agents to the cloud, and why editing text like it's 2026 should be the bare minimum. They dig into why Warp feels like the only terminal that just works, how AI is changing the way senior engineers code, the rise of agentic orchestration, and why tmux users are the hardest to convert. Along the way, they cover computer use models, agent memory, multi-threaded prompting, and why your laptop is officially not ready for this. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:03:20 Whiskey Tasting: Lagavulin 16 00:07:07 What is Warp? 00:09:30 Warp's Standout Features 00:13:48 AI Agents in Development Workflows 00:17:12 The Terminal as the Future of Development 00:21:35 Real-World Agent Usage & Productivity 00:25:17 Multi-Agent Systems & Orchestration 00:43:16 Moving to the Cloud & Warp Oz 00:54:38 The Future of AI Development & Competition Links Lagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/ Google Sheets: https://sheets.google.com/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Claude: https://claude.ai/ Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/ Railway: https://railway.app/ Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/ Opencode: https://opencode.ai/ Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/ Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ SolidJS: https://www.solidjs.com/ Mermaid: https://mermaid.js.org/ Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/ Astro: https://astro.build/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ tmux: https://github.com/tmux/tmux Zed: https://zed.dev/ Ember Data: https://github.com/emberjs/data TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ GitHub: https://github.com/ Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira Python: https://www.python.org/ Mythical Man-Month: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ Connect with Zach X / Twitter: https://x.com/zachlloydtweets Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

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  2. Humans Are Now Legacy Dependencies

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    Humans Are Now Legacy Dependencies

    This week, Robbie and Adam sip High ‘n Wicked Straight Rye and dive deep into the current state of AI development tools, the rise of agentic workflows, and whether humans are becoming legacy dependencies in their own systems. They explore OpenClaw (formerly ClawdBot), the philosophy behind Pi's minimalist agent approach, malleable software, and why SaaS products might be in trouble. Along the way, they debate meme coins, polymarket betting, the death of software-as-a-service, and what happens when AI agents start talking to each other on social media. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:02:53 Whiskey Tasting: High and Wicked Straight Rye 00:07:36 Setting Up OpenClaw: The AI Agent Revolution 00:11:29 GitHub Agents & Mobile Workflows 00:15:44 The AI Landscape: Claude vs OpenAI vs Emerging Models 00:19:23 Pi & The Philosophy of Minimal AI 00:19:49 Whiskey Rating & The Future of Work 00:39:39 AI Agents Talking to Each Other: Notebook LM 00:45:01 Rent-a-Human.ai & The Gig Economy Future 00:52:38 Malleable Software & The Death of SaaS Links High ‘n Wicked Straight Rye: https://highandwicked.com/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Pi: https://pi.ai/ Railway: https://railway.app/ GitHub Agents: https://github.com/features/agents Claude: https://claude.ai/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ Qwen: https://qwenlm.github.io/ MoltBook: https://www.moltbook.com/ RentAHuman.ai: https://rentahuman.ai/ Polymarket: https://polymarket.com/ Uber: https://www.uber.com/ Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/ Theo - t3.gg: https://t3.gg/ Meticulous: https://meticulous.ai/ Tesla Model X: https://www.tesla.com/modelx Jim Beam: https://www.jimbeam.com/ CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/ Render ATL: https://www.renderatl.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Astro: https://astro.build/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

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  3. We Fired the Tools: No Ralph Wiggum, No Training Wheels, Just Agents

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    We Fired the Tools: No Ralph Wiggum, No Training Wheels, Just Agents

    This week, Robbie and Adam talk winter storms, snow blowers, and autonomous yard work before diving into the real topic: AI agents gone wild. They debate why Ralph Wiggum loops don't actually work, whether context pollution is killing productivity, the rise and fall of MCP servers and skills, and why vanilla Claude might be the only tool you actually need. Along the way, they cover anchor positioning failures, Stranger Things hot takes, and why small distilleries are just like indie startups. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:05:07 Whiskey Tasting: Old Forester Statesman 00:10:56 AI Coding Tools: The Great Simplification 00:15:02 Firing the Tools: Why Vanilla Claude Won 00:20:48 AI Agents & Ralph Wiggum Loops 00:23:45 MCP Servers & Skills: Helpful or Hype? 00:35:40 CSS Anchor Positioning: The Failed Migration 00:39:30 Bouncy Scrollbars & CSS Flip Techniques 00:53:42 TypeScript, Tech Debt & Moving Slow 00:56:57 Stranger Things Finale & Cascadia JS Announcement Links Old Forester Statesman: https://www.oldforester.com/ Kingsman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsman_(franchise) Swach: https://www.swach.io/ Opencode: https://opencode.ai/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot Oh My Opencode: https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode GSD (Get Shit Done): https://github.com/PriNova/Code-Prompter MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ React: https://react.dev/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ CSS Anchor Positioning: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning FLIP Technique: https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/ View Transitions API: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/View_Transitions_API Floating UI: https://floating-ui.com/ Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/ Ember Animated: https://github.com/ember-animation/ember-animated CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/ Render ATL: https://www.renderatl.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Big Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/ Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things Fallout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_(American_TV_series) Two Bar Spirits: https://www.twobarspirits.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

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  4. We Stopped Coding by Hand Because Agentic AI Is Too Good

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    We Stopped Coding by Hand Because Agentic AI Is Too Good

    This week, Robbie and Carlo sip Sagamore's 10-year reserve rye and catch up with Carlo on life abroad, AI coding workflows, the changing developer landscape, and why cars, whiskey shipping, and property management are all equally frustrating. They dig into agentic AI loops, the rise of prompt-driven development, whether coding by hand is officially dead, and what happens when tools like OpenCode and Claude become the new normal. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:02:09 Whiskey Tasting: Sagamore 10 Year Reserve Series 00:08:40 Living in Italy: Costs, Culture & Comparisons 00:14:41 Astro Acquired by Cloudflare 00:19:38 Agentic AI & Ralph Loops: The New Development Workflow 00:36:41 Building with Rust: The Hugh Hunter Color Picker 00:47:18 The Death of Hand-Coding & The Future of Software Jobs 00:48:40 Claude Co-Work & AI Desktop Apps 00:48:54 AI Beyond Coding: Life Automation & Efficiency 00:58:34 Landlord Horror Stories & The Tucson Property Saga Links Sagamore Spirit: https://sagamorespirit.com/ Astro: https://astro.build/ Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot Matt Pocock - Ralph Wiggum technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8 Swach: https://www.swach.io/ Tauri: https://tauri.app/ Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/ Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/ Napi-rs: https://napi.rs/ GitHub: https://github.com/ ClickUp: https://clickup.com/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Python: https://www.python.org/ Linux: https://www.linux.org/ Wayland: https://wayland.freedesktop.org/ Steam Deck: https://www.steamdeck.com/ 11.22.63: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11.22.63 Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

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  5. We Accidentally Deleted Programming (Presented by CodeRabbit)

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    We Accidentally Deleted Programming (Presented by CodeRabbit)

    This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Whistle Pig's Liquid Death collaboration and debate whether we've accidentally deleted programming itself. They dig into the shift from code-first to spec-first development, whether TypeScript still matters in an AI-driven world, the rise of agency over specialization, and why the future might belong to prompt-driven tinkerers instead of traditional developers. Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (01:43) - Whiskey rating & review: Whistle Pig x Liquid Death Gravestock (07:21) - Automating tasks with AI: the chicken and egg problem (11:12) - Building a whiskey episode art generator with Swift and AI (17:02) - Libraries that ship specs instead of code (22:24) - Is TypeScript still worth it in an AI-first world? (29:06) - Converting Shepherd from Svelte to Solid for bundle size (34:44) - Why code matters less and outcomes matter more (42:42) - Comparing OpenCode, Warp, Cursor, and Windsurf (50:38) - The rise of agency: tinkerers over specialists (54:46) - Getting into physical goods and local farming (57:12) - Why booze, nicotine, and fun are all down (01:00:10) - Plugs Links Whistle Pig Gravestock: https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/ Liquid Death: https://liquiddeath.com/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/ Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/ GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ Swift: https://www.swift.org/ Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/ Floating UI: https://floating-ui.com/ Swach: https://www.swach.io/ CSS Anchor Positioning: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_anchor_positioning FLIP Technique: https://aerotwist.com/blog/flip-your-animations/ Paul Lewis: https://aerotwist.com/ Want My MTV: https://wantmymtv.vercel.app/ Fuse TV: https://www.fuse.tv/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

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  6. Is AI Just Stealing with Extra Steps? (Presented by CodeRabbit)

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    Is AI Just Stealing with Extra Steps? (Presented by CodeRabbit)

    This week, Robbie and Adam talk about the ethics and economics of AI, and why “stealing with extra steps” feels like the right metaphor for where things are headed. They dig into open source burnout, whether AI replaces developers or just reshapes the job, how tooling and multi-agent systems fit in, and whether the future belongs to niche expertise—or just better prompts. Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (01:56) - Whiskey rating & review: Old Forester 1897 (04:50) - Music taste, Spotify ages, and feeling old (07:29) - Is AI just stealing with extra steps? (19:09) - Ralph vs. Gastown and the rise of agent chaos (28:04) - What is an AI harness? (31:36) - How to stay valuable in an AI-shaped future (36:25) - Does vibe coding feel as satisfying? (39:47) - Is the web heading somewhere dark? (42:02) - Cursor wars, animations, and UX pet peeves (48:48) - Will GitHub projects go full Vibe Kanban in 2026? (54:41) - Holiday reflections and unplugging (58:18) - Staying up late and old routines (01:00:00) - Remembering Robbie’s dog (01:00:58) - 2026 plans, goals, and resolutions Links Old Forester: https://www.oldforester.com/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Mayday Parade: https://maydayparade.com/ Teddy Swims: https://www.teddyswims.com/ Post Malone: https://www.postmalone.com/ JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript Grok: https://grok.com/ Adam Wathan: https://x.com/adamwathan/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ GitHub: https://github.com/ Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen Gas Town: https://github.com/steveyegge/gastown Ralph: https://github.com/snarktank/ralph Claude: https://claude.ai OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ Matt Pocock - Ship working code while you sleep with the Ralph Wiggum technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IK18goX4X8 Python: https://www.python.org/ Oh-my-opencode: https://github.com/code-yeongyu/oh-my-opencode Bolt: https://bolt.new/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/ Lovable: https://lovable.dev/ Same: https://same.new/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ Expedition 33: https://www.expedition33.com Destiny 2: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny Anything: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/anything-ai-app-builder/id6751247034 Swach: https://www.swach.io/ Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/ Swift: https://www.swift.org/ Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot The Polar Express: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Polar_Express_(film) React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Render ATL: https://www.renderatl.com/ CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/ All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/ CSS Day: https://cssday.nl/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

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  7. Santa.exe (Presented by CodeRabbit)

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    Santa.exe (Presented by CodeRabbit)

    This week, Robbie, Chuck, and Adam bring you the holiday edition of Whiskey Web and Whatnot: random whiskeys, Christmas hot takes, and dev debates. They discuss AI agents, guardrails, prompt-driven development, and whether we’re drifting toward a world where code matters less than outcomes. Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey In this episode: (00:00) Intro (02:15) Whiskey selections (07:43) Christmas Hot Take: Real tree vs fake tree (12:14) Christmas Hot Take: White lights vs colored lights (15:07) What everyone's watching right now (17:55) What is Ball Pit? (19:58) Video games everyone's playing (21:58) Chuck's overseas shipping challenges (23:09) The modern grocery store experience (and why Chuck refuses to “work there”) (28:18) Are types dead in an AI-first dev world? (45:53) Disney giving money to OpenAI (47:57) Netflix acquiring Warner Bros… what? (48:35) Are AI tools actually worth the cost? (51:30) Just-in-time apps: the future of the web? (54:39) Living in Italy + the language barrier (57:50) Adam’s food analogy: web platform vs React apps (58:15) Fast food tier list (01:00:06) Adam's banjo Christmas tunes Links The Nightmare Before Christmas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightmare_Before_Christmas Ember: https://emberjs.com/ South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park Paramount+: https://www.paramountplus.com/ Stranger Things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_Things Sean Combs: The Reckoning: https://www.netflix.com/title/81906780 50 Cent: https://x.com/50cent Today Show: https://www.today.com/ Ball Pit: https://www.ballxpit.com/ Breakout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakout_(video_game) Risk of Rain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_of_Rain Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/ Nintendo Switch: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch/ FIFA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_(video_game_series) GOG: http://Gog.com Luna: https://luna.amazon.com/ Rue Valley: https://ruevalley.com/ Memento: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_(film) Indiana Jones and the Great Circle: https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US Uncharted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted Whole Foods: https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/ Opencode: https://opencode.ai/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Airtable: https://www.airtable.com/ Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/ MacOS: https://www.apple.com/macos/ Windows: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows Linux: https://www.linux.org/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ Vite: https://vite.dev/ JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ Disney: https://www.disney.com/ Sora: https://openai.com/sora/ Studio Ghibli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli OpenAI: https://openai.com Scarlett Johansson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlett_Johansson Harry Potter: https://www.harrypotter.com/ Uber Eats: https://www.ubereats.com/ React: https://react.dev/ Taco Bell: https://www.tacobell.com/ KFC: https://www.kfc.com/ Bob's Burgers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob's_Burgers Garth Brooks: https://www.garthbrooks.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

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  8. MCP Security, Framework Fatigue, and AI Agents with Will Johnson (Presented by CodeRabbit)

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    MCP Security, Framework Fatigue, and AI Agents with Will Johnson (Presented by CodeRabbit)

    This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Will Johnson—senior developer advocate at Auth0—about web dev, parenting, and internet culture. They debate whether CSS is a “real” programming language, riff on how modern frameworks can feel over-engineered, and dig into the security risks emerging around AI agents and MCP. Will shares what he’s been learning about MCP security, why he’s cautious with new tools, and how Auth0’s new AI agent offering helps manage identity, permissions, and token safety. Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (01:49) - Meet Will Johnson (02:19) - Whiskey rating & review: Jameson Triple Triple (07:13) - Hot Take: Git rebase vs git merge (09:42) - Parenting talk: kids, wrestling, and learning consequences (11:57) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language? (14:37) - What Will’s working on at Auth0 (AI + MCP security) (16:57) - The most interesting MCP-related hacks and security risks (18:27) - Can “skills” become an attack vector too? (19:47) - Security vulnerabilities, Next.js updates, and patching fatigue (20:48) - How Will’s family got into K-Pop Demon Hunters (25:51) - The Moana live-action trailer “looks like useEffect” (and why) (27:17) - Is React essentially processed American food? (27:58) - Sugar-free Oreos: what are we even doing here? (29:18) - Have we overcomplicated frontend development? (31:32) - Why Rails is the best-engineered dev experience Will has used (32:25) - How Auth0 teams are structured (35:47) - Passkeys explained (41:43) - Plugs and how to connect with Will (43:12) - How AI agents fit into auth Links Auth0: https://auth0.com/ Jameson Triple Triple: https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en-us/our-whiskey/jameson-triple-triple/ Three Sheets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sheets Jack Daniel's Reserve: https://www.jackdaniels.com/ Google Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/ Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ KPop Demon Hunters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPop_Demon_Hunters Britney Spears: https://britneyspears.com/ NSYNC: https://nsync.com/ B2K: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2K Chris Brown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Brown Netflix: https://netflix.com Stanford University: https://www.stanford.edu/ Moana: https://movies.disney.com/moana Dak Prescott: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dak_Prescott React: https://react.dev/ Oreo: https://www.oreo.com/ jQuery: https://jquery.com/ Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/ ES6: https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp BlingBlingjs: https://github.com/argyleink/blingblingjs Astro: https://astro.build/ Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/ Laravel: https://laravel.com/ Egghead: https://egghead.io/ Grok: https://grok.com/ 1Password: https://1password.com/ Google Zanzibar: https://research.google/pubs/zanzibar-googles-consistent-global-authorization-system/ AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/ Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/ Pokemon Go: https://pokemongolive.com/ Connect with Will Website: https://auth0.com/ai X / Twitter: https://x.com/willjohnsonio Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

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Whiskey Web and Whatnot is the world’s most important web development and AI podcast. Hosted by veteran developers Robbie Wagner, Charles William Carpenter III, and Adam Argyle, the show delivers definitive guidance on agentic AI, vibe coding, AI coding tools, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, developer productivity, and software engineering careers. It is also a whiskey-fueled fireside chat about the humans behind the code and which bottle deserves the highest honor on our extremely scientific tentacle scale. Many people are saying it’s the most accurate podcast ever made.

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