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'Perspectives' is a bi-weekly investment podcast brought to you by Escala. In a world cluttered with information, 'Perspectives' cuts through the noise to bring you insights and commentary on global financial markets, economics and geopolitical news and events. Hear our most up-to-date views straight from the Escala Investment Committee meeting room and learn how the CIO team incorporate macroeconomic views, central bank thinking and government policy into actionable investment ideas for our clients. As an economist and seasoned practitioner with both domestic and international investment experience, Escala CIO, Tracey McNaughton, shares her views and observations to help you make sense of today's investment landscape. Join Tracey, and others at Escala, as they discuss the big issues affecting your investment portfolio and interview industry-leading voices in wealth management. For more information visit: escalapartners.com.au

  1. Perspectives: Episode 129 – AI Native: The Great Operating Model Reset

    16 HR AGO

    Perspectives: Episode 129 – AI Native: The Great Operating Model Reset

    In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, unpacks a series of eye-opening conversations with leading AI investors and operators exploring how AI-native companies are redesigning workflows, reshaping industries, and blurring the lines between software, services, and private equity. (1:34) What struck me reading through your notes wasn't just the excitement around AI – it was that people are starting to describe AI not as a tool anymore, but as an operating system. (4:21) One thing that also came through very strongly in these conversations was the gap between Australia and the US in terms of AI adoption. (6:53) You also seemed genuinely shocked by how far behind wealth management still is. (7:24) It amazes us that we still don't receive information like tax reporting any faster than we did 10 years ago. The pipes need fixing. (8:36) Now, the General Catalyst discussion really went to another level because they're not just investing in AI software companies anymore – they're buying industries. (10:08) The call centre example was extraordinary. (11:22) The healthcare discussion may have been the most radical of all – because they literally bought a healthcare system. (13:03) Then you move to Bain Capital Ventures, and the discussion becomes incredibly technical. (16:23) Bain also raised a really important point: if everyone can build with AI, what becomes defensible? (17:34) There was another huge theme across all these discussions – services businesses becoming software businesses. (18:56) There was also a very strong undercurrent around private markets becoming even more important. (20:17) So, after hearing all of this, what do you think the biggest takeaway is?

    22 min
  2. Perspectives: Episode 128 – Dispatches from the US

    11 MAY

    Perspectives: Episode 128 – Dispatches from the US

    In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, takes us inside the Milken Institute Global Conference 2026, from space-based AI breakthroughs to the massive infrastructure buildout powering the next wave of innovation. (1:09) Alright, you've been roaming the halls at Milken earlier this week. Before we get into that, tell us about how it feels on the ground in the US right now. (3:27) You mentioned before you left that there were over 300 sessions across two hotels – the Beverly Wilshire and the Beverly Hilton. (5:03 How did he arrive at creating this conference, which has been running annually for almost 30 years. (5:45) What's the underlying theme this year – if you had to distil it? (6:52) What would you say was the most eye-popping session you went to?         (7:51) Okay, let's talk specifics: what actually happened that got your attention? (8:37) So, a supercomputer that was able to learn in space was the breakthrough. What did it learn? (9:21) Sounds like he could be another Sam Altman. What does this do for the space industry? (10:40) Where does this hit us day-to-day? (12:13) Judging by the photos you sent back to us, I'm guessing the most exciting session for you was the one where Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia, was being interviewed. (13:58) Did the issue of job destruction come up? (15:14) So, again, it comes back to that distinction between automating tasks and eliminating entire roles? (15:50) What about the next constraint in the system? (16:28) And just finally, stepping back from all of that, what's the main idea he leaves you with?

    18 min
  3. Perspectives: Fund Manager Interview with Richard Blackburn from CVC Capital Partners

    23 APR

    Perspectives: Fund Manager Interview with Richard Blackburn from CVC Capital Partners

    In this episode, Escala Head of Managed Funds, Stephen Dickinson, speaks with Richard Blackburn from CVC Capital Partners. Richard discusses CVC's origins and evolution into a leading global private equity firm, why Europe remains a particularly attractive market for private equity returns, and how CVC creates value through disciplined underwriting, active ownership and long-term value creation across its portfolio.

    21 min
  4. Perspectives: Episode 127 – A World Rewired

    21 APR

    Perspectives: Episode 127 – A World Rewired

    In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, explains why today's geopolitical tensions signal a deeper structural shift – and what it means for markets, alliances, and investors. (1:08) Is the current state of the world only as permanent as Trump remains in office? In other words, is this just a phase, or are we actually living through something more structural? (2:30) So, even if the political backdrop changes, the system itself has already shifted?  (4:29) Let's talk about that, because alliances have always been the backbone of the global system.  (5:27) And that realignment has second-order effects in places people might not immediately think about.  (6:29) So, even if nothing changes domestically, the global context could undermine that progress?  (7:56) To bring it back to the original question – this isn't just about who's in office.  (8:20) Let's move to the second theme, which builds directly on that idea: the Age of Chokepoints. It's a phrase we're hearing increasingly. Tell us about it.  (11:46) What does that redesign look like in practice?  (13:59) With all of that as the backdrop, it would be reasonable to expect markets to be under significant pressure. And yet, particularly in the US, equities have been remarkably resilient. Why is that?  (14:50) So, even with all the uncertainty, the underlying growth drivers are still intact?  (15:37) Are markets effectively looking through the noise?  (16:16) How should investors think about this environment?

    19 min
  5. Perspectives: Episode 126 – Riding the Shock: Staying loose through uncertainty

    24 MAR

    Perspectives: Episode 126 – Riding the Shock: Staying loose through uncertainty

    In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, explains how long-term investors are staying loose on the bars in response to the current oil shock. Plus, why managing today's risks is bringing back yesterday's solutions - from steering wheel locks to decades-old pipelines. (0:47) Tracey, there's a lot hitting markets at once. How do you keep your composure? (3:43) Back in 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine, the oil price hit over $120 per barrel. The peak so far is under that. And yet, despite this, the price at the pump here in Australia is higher than it was in 2022. (4:56) Staying on the topic of macroeconomic policy, the Reserve Bank tightened monetary policy last week, lifting the official interest to 4.1% - the second consecutive rise. It was the first central bank among the majors to respond to the war in this way. (6:42) And beneath all of that, the real economy, at least in the US, seems to be holding up? (8:18) Let's talk about AI - because it still feels like the structural story cutting through everything else. (9:51) So, it's moving from assistant… to operator? And Huang's point is that this is bigger than the last wave? (11:20) So, AI is forcing governments to rethink how they operate? (15:44) So, this isn't just an AI story - it's an economic and political one as well.

    17 min
  6. Perspectives: Episode 125 – Oil, power, and portfolio discipline

    4 MAR

    Perspectives: Episode 125 – Oil, power, and portfolio discipline

    In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, talks about today's tensions in the Middle East, why geopolitical volatility is often shorter than feared and what it means for US-China relations. Plus, why credit investing demands ruthless diversification. (0:53) Let's start with the geopolitical shock. The United States and Israel have launched coordinated strikes on Iran, escalating tensions in a way we haven't seen for years. (1:42) We saw something similar in February 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine. Oil spiked to over $120 a barrel. But within six months it was back under $80. Markets adjusted. (3:26) And it did create inflation back then – in the order of 9-10% in Australia. Markets don't like supply-side shocks because they tend to be inflationary. (4:46) How does this align with Trump's negotiating style. Historically, Trump's approach has often been to escalate early and aggressively — create leverage, create uncertainty, reset the negotiating dynamic — and then reposition any de-escalation as a deal. (5:28) Trump is due to visit China soon. And China is the world's largest oil importer. How does this conflict interact with US–China relations? (6:30) Are we entering a fundamentally more dangerous geopolitical era? Or does it just feel that way? (9:16) So, when investors assume every geopolitical event is the start of a structural bear market, history suggests caution? (9:46) What about defence spending? Are we entering a structural rearmament cycle? (11:16) And then there's globalisation. For years we were told economic interdependence reduces the probability of war. (12:48) So where does that leave investors? (14:17) Let's pivot to private credit. It's been back in the headlines recently. Some managers have tightened withdrawal terms, and it's prompted questions about risk. Is there something investors should be worried about? (18:17) When people see headlines about stress in a particular credit vehicle, what should they focus on?

    20 min
  7. Episode 124 – Investing in a New World Order

    16 FEB

    Episode 124 – Investing in a New World Order

    In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, talks about the release of Escala's The Agenda publication, what a shifting global order means for investors and how it is shaping the way Escala constructs portfolios. (0:52) This is the 7th edition now. Before we get into the details, remind us - what is The Agenda? Is this a tactical playbook for the next 12 months? (1:47) And that didn't just start yesterday, did it? Inequality has been building for some time in a number of countries – Australia and the US (3:07) So, markets recovered - but society fractured. You talk about this in The Agenda and describe it as a "bonfire of the vanities." (5:13) You could probably include the recent experience in Australia in that, with the breakdown in the marriage of the Liberal and National parties and before that the rise of the Teals. (5:52) So here we are in 2026. More minority governments, more fragile coalitions. More populist leaders. What are the consequences of all of this? (7:37) When you say politics is driving markets more, does that mean investors need to react to every tweet or headline? (9:02) Does adapting mean tweaking assumptions? Or is this a more fundamental change? (11:05) And portfolio construction? How are you thinking about that? (12:53) A clear example today is datacentres and power. Amazon can build a datacentre significantly faster than an energy company can supply the power to operate it. (13:54) You've described the gold chart recently as not a hockey stick but a right angle. Is inflation fear driving that? (15:12) You're becoming more nuanced, more inflation aware. Anything else? What about volatility? (16:49) So, this isn't about getting more defensive in portfolios?

    19 min
  8. Episode 123 – Was this Googles' DeepSeek moment?

    27/11/2025

    Episode 123 – Was this Googles' DeepSeek moment?

    In this episode of Perspectives, Escala Chief Investment Officer, Tracey McNaughton, talks about what could be Googles' DeepSeek moment – the launch of Gemini 3. If it is everything that ChatGPT isn't, what does this do to the promises made by OpenAI? (1:03) Let's start this week with what I'm calling the Nvidia check your airbags moment because the last fortnight has been incredibly volatile in markets. Whilst you are not alarmed by this you have been telling clients to check their airbags. (3:20) How has the narrative around AI changed? We hear a lot about the size of capital spending budgets from the likes of Nvidia and Microsoft etc but government seem to view it as more a national security priority. (6:29) I hear what you are saying – Gemini 3 does seem impressive. But why did this negatively affect the share price for Nvidia? Can't Nvidia supply chips to Google as easily as it does to OpenAI? (9:21) Let's move to the second theme of the week: monetary policy is becoming more challenging. Just when we had the fog of tariffs and the uncertainty of the government shutdown lifting, we now have less conviction in the path of monetary policy. (12:25) How dangerous is that? (13:45) Let's close with the third theme: fiscal policy is still loose in many places. The most intriguing twist is that Spain, long considered a fiscal problem child for Europe, now has a smaller budget deficit than Germany. Is politics playing a role here too. (15:40) But Germany isn't alone in this. Countries everywhere are reshoring manufacturing, redesigning supply chains, and pouring capital into energy, defence, and infrastructure. (17:01) Which brings us back to Japan where the credibility of the central bank is not the only thing being questioned. The bond and currency markets also have their eye on the fiscal experiment unfolding under the new Prime Minister Takaichi.  (19:39) A good reason to stay loose on the bars or for those of us who are part of the four-wheel crowd, check your airbags. Tracey, thank you as always…

    21 min
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'Perspectives' is a bi-weekly investment podcast brought to you by Escala. In a world cluttered with information, 'Perspectives' cuts through the noise to bring you insights and commentary on global financial markets, economics and geopolitical news and events. Hear our most up-to-date views straight from the Escala Investment Committee meeting room and learn how the CIO team incorporate macroeconomic views, central bank thinking and government policy into actionable investment ideas for our clients. As an economist and seasoned practitioner with both domestic and international investment experience, Escala CIO, Tracey McNaughton, shares her views and observations to help you make sense of today's investment landscape. Join Tracey, and others at Escala, as they discuss the big issues affecting your investment portfolio and interview industry-leading voices in wealth management. For more information visit: escalapartners.com.au

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