In this explosive episode of Heretics, host Andrew Gold sits down with controversial figure Steve Laws for a no-holds-barred discussion on racism, immigration, ethnonationalism vs. civic nationalism, mass deportation, the role of Jewish people in UK society, Holocaust skepticism, and the future of England. SPONSORS: Use my code Andrew25 on MyHeritage: https://bit.ly/AndrewGoldDNA Grab your free seat to the 2-Day AI Mastermind: https://link.outskill.com/GOLDNOV4 Start fresh at tryfum.com/products/zero-crisp-mint . Over 500,000 people have already made the switch — no nicotine, no vapor, no batteries. Just flavor, fidget, and a fresh start. Get up to 45% off Ekster with my code ANDREWGOLDHERETICS: https://partner.ekster.com/andrewgoldheretics Plaud links! Official Website: Uk: https://bit.ly/3K7jDGm US: https://bit.ly/4a0tUie Amazon: https://amzn.to/4hQVyAm Get an automatic 20% discount at checkout until December 1st. Cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month at https://mintmobile.com/heretics Steve Laws doesn't shy away from his extreme views, calling for "total remigration" and defending his self-proclaimed racist stance. Andrew challenges him on feasibility, empathy, and historical facts in a tense, unfiltered debate that exposes the divide on the right. Is this the light needed to combat bad ideas, or does it go too far? Watch to decide. If you value raw, uncensored conversations on UK politics, nationalism, immigration crisis, racism debates, and cultural identity, hit SUBSCRIBE and turn on notifications for more Heretics episodes. Like if you want more interviews like this, and comment below: Are you as horrified by this as I am? Let's discuss! #RacismDebate #Ethnonationalism #ImmigrationCrisis #UKPolitics #Deportation #Nationalism #HereticsPodcast #AndrewGold #SteveLaws #ControversialInterview #CulturalIdentity #Zionism #HolocaustDenial #TommyRobinson Join the 30k heretics on my mailing list: https://andrewgoldheretics.com Check out my new documentary channel: https://youtube.com/@andrewgoldinvestigates Andrew on X: https://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok Insta: https://www.instagram.com/andrewgold_ok Heretics YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@andrewgoldheretics Chapters: 0:00 "I'm a Racist – And Proud of It!" Steve Laws' Bold Admission 3:00 Civic vs. Ethnonationalism: The Civil War on the Right Exposed 6:00 What Makes Someone "English"? Blood, Ethnicity, or Values? 9:00 Shocking Deportation Plan: Millions Thrown on Planes? 12:00 Jews in England: "You'd Be Gone to Israel" – Personal Attack? 15:00 Holocaust Numbers Argument: Dangerous Denial? 18:00 Tommy Robinson Called a "Zionist Traitor" – Feud Ignites 21:00 Mixed-Race Kids & Collective Punishment: Where's the Line? 24:00 'England for the English" – But What About Normans & History? 27:00 Civil War Prediction: Would Brits Fight Mass Deportations? 30:00 Jewish Influence on Immigration: Conspiracy 33:00 "You're Not European" – Anti-Semitic Vibes Escalate 36:00 Woke Whites vs. Foreigners: Who's the Real Enemy? 39:00 Israel as Ethnostate: Hypocrisy in Nationalism? 42:00 Patterns of Blame: Scapegoating Jews for UK Problems 45:00 "Total Remigration" Details: Letters, Stages, and Chaos 48:00 Empathy for Minorities? "I Don't Care – Everyone Gone" 51:00 Pakistanis & Grooming Gangs: Justify Collective Expulsion? 54:00 Gaza Analogy: OK with Bombing Kids in War? 57:00 "White People Will Go Extinct" – Inevitable or Preventable? 1:00:00 Authoritarianism Warning: Police State to Save England? 1:03:00 Hypotheticals: What If Your Wife Had "Foreign Blood"? 1:06:00 Younger Generation Radicalized: Hope or Danger? 1:09:00 Anywhere vs. Somewhere People: Class Divide on Immigration 1:12:00 Islamic Terrorism & Crackdowns: Balance Liberty and Security? 1:15:00 Final Standoff: "I Want My Country Back" vs. Feasibility 1:18:00 Heretic Admired & Viewer Challenge: Comment Your Side! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
