Engineering Trust

Jens Schmidt

Engineering Trust explores how modern software systems earn and maintain trust through security, compliance, architecture, and intentional design. In each episode, we speak with engineering leaders, security executives, founders, and regulators about building trustworthy systems at scale. We go beyond theory to unpack real-world decisions around secure development, compliance-by-design, software supply chain risk, and operational resilience. This podcast is for CTOs, CISOs, VP Engineering, product security teams, and technical leaders navigating increasing regulatory pressure, complex architectures, and rising expectations for transparency. If trust is something your systems must prove, not promise, then this show is for you.

Episodes

  1. #2 Exodos Labs Engineering Trust Podcast - SBOM Demystified or Why Software needs an Ingredients Label

    31 JAN

    #2 Exodos Labs Engineering Trust Podcast - SBOM Demystified or Why Software needs an Ingredients Label

    In this episode of the Exodos Labs Engineering Trust Podcast, we break down SBOMs in plain language: what an SBOM is (a “software ingredients list”), why it suddenly matters for security and compliance, and what “good SBOM hygiene” looks like in practice. You’ll hear real-world context (including why Log4j is still haunting organizations years later), how SBOMs fit into the software lifecycle, and why “generating an SBOM” is the easy part—while requesting, receiving, tracking, validating, and sharing SBOMs at scale is where most teams struggle. In this episode, we cover: SBOM 101: what it is (and what it isn’t) using the ingredients-list analogy Why this is a supply chain problem (open-source dependency reality + downstream risk) The two dominant formats: SPDX and CycloneDX—and what differs in practice How SBOM generation works with common tools (and why CI/CD automation is key to staying up to date) SBOM “quality gates” and minimum requirements (e.g., NTIA / industry baselines) Why SBOM exchange today is “all over the place” (emails, portals, shared drives) and how to make it auditable A look ahead: XBOMs (e.g., cryptography BOM), and geo-risk / provenance signals via maintainer & contributor context If you’re a CISO, AppSec, DevOps, or product security leader trying to operationalize SBOMs beyond checkbox compliance, this one is for you.

    13 min

About

Engineering Trust explores how modern software systems earn and maintain trust through security, compliance, architecture, and intentional design. In each episode, we speak with engineering leaders, security executives, founders, and regulators about building trustworthy systems at scale. We go beyond theory to unpack real-world decisions around secure development, compliance-by-design, software supply chain risk, and operational resilience. This podcast is for CTOs, CISOs, VP Engineering, product security teams, and technical leaders navigating increasing regulatory pressure, complex architectures, and rising expectations for transparency. If trust is something your systems must prove, not promise, then this show is for you.