Mormon Discussion Podcast

An Honest Search For Truth

  1. 10 ABR

    The Hill Cumorah: Why did the LDS Church & its apologists relocate it?

    For most of Mormon history, Latter-day Saints believed the Hill Cumorah in Palmyra, New York was the very place where the final battles of the Book of Mormon took place and where Moroni buried the gold plates that Joseph Smith would later retrieve. But in recent decades, a growing number of LDS scholars and apologists have proposed something very different. Because no archaeological evidence exists in New York for the massive civilizations and battles described in the Book of Mormon, many now argue that the real Cumorah must have been somewhere in Mesoamerica. Under this model, the hill in New York is no longer the battle site at all. Instead, Moroni supposedly carried the plates thousands of miles north before burying them in Palmyra. In this episode we examine: • Why early LDS leaders consistently taught that Cumorah was in New York • Why modern apologetics often moves the battle to Mesoamerica • The archaeological claims used to justify this shift • Why similarities like pyramids, cities, and warfare are not actual evidence for Book of Mormon peoples • What evidence would need to exist if the Book of Mormon civilizations were historical • The logistical and historical problems created by the “two Cumorahs” theory Is relocating Cumorah a legitimate scholarly development… or simply another attempt to make the evidence fit the claim? Join us as we take a closer look. Book: A Logical Deconstruction of Mormonism In this book, Bill Reel walks step-by-step through the major truth claims of Mormonism and examines whether they hold up under scrutiny. Using logic, history, and evidence, the book explores the foundations of LDS belief and invites readers to consider the most reasonable conclusions. Available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Logical-Deconstruction-Mormonism-Bill-Reel-ebook/dp/B0GQN4178G If you enjoy thoughtful conversations about Mormon history, doctrine, and evidence, make sure to subscribe to Mormon Discussion and join the discussion in the comments. #Mormonism #BookOfMormon #Cumorah #LDSHistory #MormonDiscussion The post The Hill Cumorah: Why did the LDS Church & its apologists relocate it? appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

    12 min
  2. 2 ABR

    History of Mormonism’s “Word of Wisdom” Health Code

    In this episode of Mormonism Live, we walk through the full evolution of the Word of Wisdom—from its origin in 1833 to how it functions today as a requirement for temple worthiness. We start in Kirtland, where the School of the Prophets was filled with tobacco smoke, chewing, and spitting—and where Emma Smith’s frustration becomes part of the story behind the revelation. From there, we zoom out and examine the broader 19th-century health movements already shaping ideas about diet, stimulants, and self-control. Figures like Sylvester Graham and the growing temperance movement weren’t fringe—they were mainstream. And their fingerprints are all over the Word of Wisdom. We then track how the revelation was originally given “not by commandment,” how early leaders—including Joseph Smith and Wilford Woodruff—continued to drink alcohol, and how enforcement slowly tightened over time. What began as counsel eventually became a defining boundary marker of Mormon worthiness. Along the way, we tackle the contradictions and gray areas: Why coffee and tea are prohibited while caffeine is not How “mild drinks of barley” disappeared from the conversation The shifting stance on medical marijuana Cultural gray zones like kava And how modern application often depends more on tradition than a consistent principle By the end, the question isn’t just what the Word of Wisdom says—but how it became what it is today. Donate to Mormonism Live: https://donorbox.org/mormonism-live Get Bill Reel’s book “The Logical Deconstruction of Mormonism”: https://www.amazon.com/Logical-Deconstruction-Mormonism-One-Book/dp/B0GQQ4CJ2S The post History of Mormonism’s “Word of Wisdom” Health Code appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

    2 h y 42 min
  3. 26 MAR

    Book of Mormon Translation

    In this episode we examine one of the most foundational claims in Mormonism: the translation of the Book of Mormon. Most Latter-day Saints grew up hearing a very specific story. Joseph Smith sat at a table, the gold plates were present, and he translated the ancient record through divine power. But when we turn to the actual historical eyewitness accounts, a more complicated picture appears. Multiple witnesses—including Martin Harris, Emma Smith, and David Whitmer—described a translation process where Joseph placed a seer stone into a hat, buried his face in the hat to block out light, and dictated the text while the plates were often covered, in another room, or not present at all. If the translation did not require Joseph to read the plates… why were the plates necessary? In this episode we slow the story down and look carefully at the historical sources. We examine the original accounts, the apologetic explanations offered to reconcile them, and the logical implications of those explanations. This is not about attacking belief. It is about asking a simple question: What explanation best fits the evidence? Book: A Logical Deconstruction of Mormonism Available at Amazon – https://www.amazon.com/Logical-Deconstruction-Mormonism-Bill-Reel-ebook/dp/B0GQN4178G Thanks so much for watching! Please like, subscribe, and leave a comment! Visit our Channel to find everything Mormonism! https://www.youtube.com/c/MormonDiscussionsInc or @MormonDiscussion The post Book of Mormon Translation appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

    9 min
  4. 20 MAR

    Lamanite to Self: A Native Reckoning with Mormonism

    In this episode of Mormonism Live, we sit down with Ember, a Native American and former Latter-day Saint, to explore a side of Mormonism that often goes overlooked – the lived experience of Native Americans inside the Church. For many Indigenous members, Mormon doctrine didn’t just offer a spiritual framework. It reshaped identity, ancestry, and self-worth. Teachings about “Lamanites,” skin color, righteousness, and divine lineage weren’t abstract ideas—they were personal, and often deeply painful. We talk through: What it means to be labeled a “Lamanite” in a modern world with DNA evidence The psychological weight of doctrines tied to skin color and worthiness The legacy of programs like the Indian Student Placement Program Cultural loss, identity fragmentation, and the pressure to assimilate How Church narratives intersect with broader colonial and Christian history The experience of being the “token Native” in LDS spaces The tension between Indigenous spirituality and Mormon theology The long road of deconstruction, healing, and reclaiming identity This isn’t just a conversation about history—it’s about how belief systems shape identity, and what it takes to rebuild when that foundation cracks. Whether you’re familiar with these issues or hearing them for the first time, this episode invites a deeper look at the intersection of faith, culture, and personal truth. Join the conversation live or catch the replay Like, Subscribe, and Share to help broaden the discussion Support Mormonism Live https://donorbox.org/mormonism-live The post Lamanite to Self: A Native Reckoning with Mormonism appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

    2 h y 19 min
  5. 19 MAR

    The Kinderhook Plates: A Joseph Smith Translation?

    In this episode, we examine one of the lesser-known but revealing moments in Mormon history: the Kinderhook Plates. In 1843, a set of small brass plates covered with strange engravings were discovered in Kinderhook, Illinois and brought to Joseph Smith. Contemporary accounts record that Joseph examined the plates and began offering an interpretation of the characters, identifying them as an ancient record connected to a descendant of Ham. But decades later, the truth emerged. The Kinderhook Plates were a 19th-century hoax, created by local men to test whether Joseph Smith could truly translate ancient records. Modern metallurgical testing confirmed what the creators later admitted: the plates were manufactured in the 1800s. So what does this episode show? If Joseph had the divine ability to translate ancient languages by revelation, a modern forgery should have been immediately exposed. Instead, Joseph appeared to treat the plates as authentic and even began interpreting them. In this episode we walk carefully through: The discovery of the Kinderhook Plates What Joseph Smith reportedly said about them The later confession of the men who created them And what this incident tells us about Joseph’s claimed translation abilities This is part of a larger series examining the core claims of Mormonism one issue at a time. If you appreciate this kind of careful, logical examination, my book A Logical Deconstruction of Mormonism expands this approach across thirty major issues—looking at the original claim, the evidence, the apologetic explanations, and the logical implications. Thanks for listening. And as always, keep thinking clearly. Book: A Logical Deconstruction of Mormonism Available at Amazon – https://www.amazon.com/Logical-Deconstruction-Mormonism-Bill-Reel-ebook/dp/B0GQN4178G The post The Kinderhook Plates: A Joseph Smith Translation? appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

    14 min

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