NN/G UX Podcast

Nielsen Norman Group

The Nielsen Norman Group (NN/G) UX Podcast is a podcast on user experience research, design, strategy, and professions, hosted by Senior User Experience Specialist Therese Fessenden. Join us every month as she interviews industry experts, covering common questions, hot takes on pressing UX topics, and tips for building truly great user experiences. For free UX resources, references, and information on UX Certification opportunities, go to: www.nngroup.com

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    60. Conversational Design and UI: Why Language Matters More Than Ever

    What does it actually mean to design conversationally? Not "add a chatbot" — but genuinely apply the principles of human conversation to the systems we build? In this episode, host Laura Klein sits down with Erika Hall, author of Conversational Design and Just Enough Research, to re-visit a topic that's only gotten more relevant since her book came out in 2018. They dig into why language has always been an important part of any interface, what the cooperative principle of conversation can teach us about interaction design, and how the current AI moment is muddying what "conversational" even means. Erika also makes a sharp distinction between AI that solves real problems and AI that performs work — and offers a theory about why so many people are reaching for answer machines right now. Plus: why the best consulting advice is often just "you have to talk to each other," the role of domain expertise in getting anything useful out of an LLM, and what painting chickens has to do with learning to see. About Erika Hall | LinkedIn | Bluesky Her Studio - Mule DesignConversational DesignJust Enough ResearchRelated NN/G Articles: AI Chatbots Discourage Error CheckingDesigning AI Products and Features: Study GuideSycophancy in Generative-AI ChatbotsAI Features Must Solve Real User ProblemsTry One of Our Courses → Designing AI Experiences (Live Online) → The Human Mind and Usability (Live Online) → Understanding LLMs (Self-Paced) → Informative Microcopy (Self-Paced) Don’t forget to like and subscribe! ❤️ Follow Us On: Newsletter Instagram Threads Linkedin 📹 Post-production by Tiago Pedro (Design Assistant) Megan Brown (Social Media Lead) TYXU5WMUAXAS8GTC

    45 min
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    59. Getting Hired in UX: What to Do When Apply-and-Wait Isn't Enough

    Navigating the UX job market has always had its ups and downs, especially with AI reshaping the industry. In this episode, host Laura Klein sits down with Evan Sunwall, NN/G's Director of Self-Paced Training, to share candid advice for UX practitioners trying to actively job search or level up in today's competitive market. With nearly 19 years in the field as both a designer and a hiring manager, he has a lot to say about where the field is headed — no matter what stage you're at in your career. That experience is also what shaped Evan's self-paced course on getting a job in UX, part of NN/G's new and growing library of practical, pre-recorded courses built around real skill gaps. Evan was one of the first to help develop the format — running experiments and prototypes to figure out what actually works for self-directed learners. Evan also previews a companion course aimed at hiring managers and shares that he's looking for sharp instructors to help expand the library into new topics across research, design, and AI. Check out our NEW Self-Paced Courses! About Evan Sunwall | Bio | Linkedin Successful UX Job Searching (Course)Hiring UX Talent (Course) Free NN/G Articles: How to Apply and Secure a UX JobAdvice for Approaching a UX Job SearchTemplates and Tools for UX Job SeekersPreparation Tactics for a Tough UX Job MarketGrowing in Your UX Career: Study Guide Don’t forget to like and subscribe! ❤️ Follow Us On: Newsletter Instagram Threads Linkedin Bluesky X 📹 Post-production by Tiago Pedro (Design Assistant) Megan Brown (Social Media Lead) TYXU5WMUAXAS8GTC

    38 min
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    58. The Truth About Lean & Agile (Feat. Principal Experience Specialist, Laura Klein)

    If you work in UX, you’ve probably heard the terms lean, Agile, and MVP more times than you can count. But knowing the terms doesn’t mean knowing how to make them work. In this episode, Laura Klein, Principal Experience Specialist at NN/G, joins Therese Fessenden to talk about what Lean UX was really meant to accomplish — and how teams today can apply its principles without falling into common traps. Listen as they discuss how Lean UX came about, the skill of zooming between product vision and interaction details, and why growing companies struggle to balance speed and consistency. Whether you’re working at a startup or inside a large enterprise, this episode offers a grounded look at how to design thoughtfully in fast-moving environments. We’re also excited to have Laura join as the newest co-host of the NN/G UX Podcast. And many congratulations to the Fessenden family as they welcome a new addition to their family. About Laura Klein | Bio | Linkedin | Bluesky | Usersknow.com What is Wrong With UX (Podcast)Build Better Products (Book)UX for Lean Startups (Book) NN/G Live Online Courses Taught by Laura Lean UX and AgileProduct & UX: Building Partnerships for Better OutcomesAll Our Live Courses Free NN/G Articles & Videos Lean UX & Agile: Study GuideLean UX & Agile GlossaryWhat is Lean UX?Accounting for User Research in AgileWhy Organizations Don’t Do User Research and How to Change ThatWhy Most Product Teams Aren't Really Empowered Don’t forget to like and subscribe! ❤️ Follow Us On: Newsletter Instagram Threads Linkedin Bluesky X 📹 Post-production by Tiago Pedro (Design Assistant) Megan Brown (Social Media Lead) TYXU5WMUAXAS8GTC

    42 min

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The Nielsen Norman Group (NN/G) UX Podcast is a podcast on user experience research, design, strategy, and professions, hosted by Senior User Experience Specialist Therese Fessenden. Join us every month as she interviews industry experts, covering common questions, hot takes on pressing UX topics, and tips for building truly great user experiences. For free UX resources, references, and information on UX Certification opportunities, go to: www.nngroup.com

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