SwapSpace Huddle

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SwapSpace Huddle is your go-to podcast for all things crypto and blockchain! Join us as we host global experts and thought leaders who share insights on successful projects, emerging trends, and the future of decentralized technologies. Each episode dives deep into critical topics, from DeFi to NFTs, making complex concepts accessible for everyone. Tune in and be part of the conversation!

  1. 17/11/2025

    EP. 20 ETFs, XRP’s “Domino Theory,” and Crypto’s Next Leap with Jacob Claver

    This episode, host Turpal sits down with Jake Claver, crypto wealth manager, founder of Digital Wealth Partners and Digital Family Office, and YouTuber with 1,000+ videos, to unpack where crypto is headed next. From Bitcoin’s ETF-driven boom-and-bust dynamics to why utility chains may win the long game, Jake shares a deeply researched, contrarian-yet-coherent thesis that ties macro, regulation, and market structure into one narrative. Episode Breakdown 00:00 — Origin story: From 2020 FAANG buys to discovering “the Internet of Value” 04:07 — Why crypto: Protocols, immutable ledgers, and utility beyond speculation 05:03 — First-cycle lessons: Wins, sells, taxes, and building the right advisory circle 05:41 — From DIY to family office: Finding CPAs/attorneys who actually get crypto 06:27 — Who they serve: XRP/Hedera/XLM/XDC holders with 0.5–5M allocations 06:56 — Services: Structures, trusts, documentation, bill-pay, domestic & international teams 10:32 — Bitcoin now: Digital gold, block-size regrets, and why band-aid L2s won’t win banks 11:53 — The bear case: ETF investors aren’t HODLers—why that matters on the way down 12:23 — Unpopular take: Could BTC see $20K this cycle? Macro risks and dominance 13:23 — Tether risk: USAT pivot, correlation with BTC run-ups, and possible deleveraging 14:49 — Rotation patterns: ETH→SOL, fees/latency, and why utility chains attract institutions 18:26 — ETH outlook: EVM dominance, Solidity/Python adoption, and realistic price paths 20:24 — Throughput matters: Visa/Mastercard scale vs. network congestion realities 21:36 — Stablecoins need smart contracts: Clawbacks, directed spend, multipurpose tokens 24:20 — Why ETH ETF flows lagged: Bitcoin dominance and waiting for alt ETF rotations |25:14 — The alt ETF wave: ETH, XRP, DOGE, SOL, HBAR, LTC—SEC standardization next 26:31 — Litecoin as the cycle’s canary? Historical frontrunner and approval sequencing 27:05 — Policy tailwinds: SEC, BlackRock, MicroStrategy, and DC turning crypto-friendly 29:13 — Hype vs. utility: Trump coin, 2025 momentum, and what sticks into 2026–2027 31:03 — Real-world adoption: Why Jake sees 80–85% of the economy on-chain by 2030 32:00 — ISO 20022 and instant settlement: The “killer app” for institutional crypto 32:26 — Web3 promise: Own (and monetize) your data; digital ID right behind payments 33:19 — Digital titles, not “NFTs”: Wallet-native ownership, provenance, clawbacks34:17 — Security reality check: DeFi flash loans vs. human error and media narratives 38:39 — Making crypto safer: Institutional custody, insurance, segregation, no rehypothecation 39:20 — Counterparty risk, solved: Mirrored exposure, off-exchange settlement, atomic swaps 39:48 — Delegated value: Keep assets visible/locked while participating in pools and lending 40:18 — “Have your cake and eat it too”: Returns without DeFi risk, done in custody 40:49 — XRP at scale: A quarter-billion XRP in pool, client returns, and why stability matters 41:59 — The supply-shock thesis: How XRP could reprice, then stabilize for settlement 42:27 — Cash flow without selling: Borrowing, compounding, and tax-aware strategies 43:01 — Culture break: The “Jordans” moment crypto still needs—credible ambassadors 44:27 — Cycle parity: Bull vs. bear arguments, and what truly drives the next move 45:39 — Macro masterclass: Reverse carry trade, Japan’s rate path, oil as catalyst 47:28 — Tens of trillions in motion: Why a global unwind impacts every asset class 50:19 — The missing piece in 2024: Stablecoin bill and $2.3T treasury demand 51:01 — The domino theory: DTCC’s Project Ion, R3, and XRP as primary settlement rail 54:09 — Creator favorites: Lifestyle week-in-the-life, hair transplant travel, XRP Vegas 54:36 — Most-watched: “XRP 5-year retirement plan”—entities, exits, and infinite banking 58:27 — Jake’s CTA: BeyondBroke.com, DigitalFamilyOffice.io, DigitalWealthPartners.net

    58 min
  2. 06/10/2025

    EP. 19 Bitcoin over $120K, ETF Mania & Trading Bots: Inside Crypto’s Wildest Year Yet with Aaron Dishner Aka MooninPapa

    This episode, host Turpal welcomes Aaron Dishner—aka Moonin Papa—crypto YouTuber, educator, and founder of The Better Traders. From surviving the crypto winter to building automated trading bots, Aaron shares his journey through the chaos and opportunity of digital assets, trading mistakes, and the emotional rollercoaster that defines the crypto market.We dive deep into the evolution of crypto trading, why education matters, how to stay safe, and what it really takes to thrive in 2025’s wild bull run (and looming bear market). From Bitcoin pizza regrets to the realities of scams, hacks, and ETF-fueled adoption, this is a candid, practical conversation for anyone navigating Web3. Episode Breakdown 00:00 — Meet Aaron: YouTube grind, partnerships, and daily crypto content01:14 — The Better Traders: Why Aaron launched it, teaching roots, and the pandemic boom03:21 — Crypto vs. Traditional Markets: Volatility, scams, and the unchanging fundamentals05:11 — Teaching Crypto: Mistakes, emotions, and the art of learning from losses08:30 — Aaron’s “Three Ps”: Patience, Plan, Purpose—finding your WHY in trading10:17 — From Penny Stocks to Bitcoin: The orange pill moment and switching to crypto14:31 — Bitcoin Hits $121K: Reflections on price, tech, and global impact15:25 — Favorite & Least Favorite Things About Bitcoin: Immutability vs. seed phrase headaches17:24 — Scams, Hacks & Bad Actors: Cryptopia, Mt. Gox, FTX, QuadrigaCX, and lessons learned20:41 — Exchange Safety: Not your keys, not your coins—how to manage risk23:53 — Handling Hacks: Bybit’s $1.5B loss, insurance, and stoicism in crisis25:54 — Tech vs. Human Error: Why most exploits are people problems27:14 — Media & Crypto: Mainstream skepticism, JP Morgan, and the “rat poison” meme29:39 — El Salvador’s Bitcoin Experiment: Mining, education, and global crypto politics33:08 — ETF Mania: BlackRock, Saylor, and the new era of institutional adoption36:51 — What Do ETFs Mean for Everyday Traders? Long-term thinking and the supply shock40:44 — The ETF Approval Game: SEC drama, Ethereum & XRP ETFs on the horizon42:05 — Explaining Crypto to Your Mom: Overcoming skepticism and making sense of mining44:01 — Biggest Wins & Losses: Bitcoin pizza moments and expensive lessons46:33 — The Fetus Stage of Crypto Trading: Why the market is still young47:55 — Managing Risk: DCA strategies, bots, and emotional discipline50:28 — Trading in Volatile Markets: Why volatility can be a gift53:34 — Avoiding FOMO & FUD: Caution, whales, and market manipulation56:20 — Why “Mooning Papa”? The story behind the name and Scandinavian trolls58:33 — Final Thoughts: Is now a good time to trade? Preparing for the next bear market01:01:24 — Taking Profits, Preserving Capital, and Buying the Dip Enjoyed the episode? Smash that Like button  Subscribe for more deep dives into crypto, trading, and Web3  Drop your questions or thoughts in the comments! Stay safe, stay curious, do your own research, and take it easy!

    1 h y 3 min
  3. 23/07/2025

    EP. 18 Liquid Staking, TON, and the Future of DeFi w/ Konstantin from Bemo Finance

    In this episode, host Tirpal sits down with Konstantin from Bemo Finance to talk all things DeFi, liquid staking, the current state of TON, and why crypto is still the wild west (but with better memes). From Bitcoin pizza stories to the hurdles of building on TON, scams, compliance, and where the next big crypto hub might be—this is a deep, honest, and practical conversation for anyone navigating the world of Web3. Time Codes 00:00 — Intro & Disclaimer00:25 — Guest Intro: Konstantin from Bemo Finance00:49 — How Did You Get Into Crypto? Early Days, Pizza, and Regrets02:30 — First Bitcoin Experiences & The “What If” Game04:22 — Bitcoin Pizza Day & Crypto’s Early Milestones05:54 — What Gave Crypto Its First Breath of Life? (Hint: Not Just the Good Guys)07:26 — Why Media Loves Bad News in Crypto08:52 — Scams, Hacks & Why Crypto Needs More Education10:17 — Why Security is Everyone’s Job (Not Just the Users)12:10 — The Real Value of Security Audits & Tokenomics13:30 — Token Promotion, Rug Pulls, and the Soulja Boy Effect14:37 — How Founders Can Thrive in Web3: Practical Tips15:53 — Building Safe, Functional Products in DeFi16:55 — Why Even Audited Protocols Get Hacked17:23 — Economic Hacks & The Need for True Expertise18:26 — Phishing, Social Engineering & Cybersecurity for Teams19:16 — AI + Blockchain: Real Use or Just Hype?20:00 — Decentralized Computing Power & The Future of AI in Crypto22:36 — TON: Is It the Next Big Thing or Just Hype?23:36 — Why Many TON Projects Are Shutting Down25:23 — TON’s Ecosystem: Progress, Problems, and What’s Next28:17 — Moonpay, Mass Adoption, and Missed Opportunities30:01 — TON’s Missed Incentives & The Telegram Userbase32:07 — Bemo Finance: The Elevator Pitch33:05 — What is Liquid Staking? Why Does It Matter?34:13 — DeFi vs CeFi: Where Should Crypto Go?35:12 — Regulation, Compliance, and the Future of Crypto Hubs37:39 — Is Dubai the Next Crypto Capital?39:23 — Where Should Founders Build? (And How to Survive Regulation)43:05 — Staking vs Liquid Staking: Explained for Everyone46:25 — Bemo’s Vision: Where Are We Headed Next?48:24 — Will We Ever Get a Crypto Banking Card?51:03 — Restaking, Transaction Marketplaces, and the Future of DeFi on TON53:17 — Why Crypto is Still Young—and What’s Holding It Back54:43 — Final Thoughts: Staying Positive, Building for the Long Run55:43 — Last Words from Konstantin56:23 — Outro & Safety Tips: Do Your Own Research!

    57 min
  4. 24/06/2025

    EP. 17 Crypto Regulation in Limbo with Ruslan Usmanov - CEO&Founder of TX Legal

    In this episode, we sit down with Ruslan, CEO and founder of TX Legal, to talk about the legal minefield of crypto, the early days of Ethereum trading, and what founders keep getting wrong when launching Web3 products. You’ll hear stories from 2017 bull runs, deep regulatory battles, and why even the best teams often miss the basics of compliance. We go deep on:• How Ruslan got into crypto through Austrian economics• His early trades on Ethereum at $40• What most startups get completely wrong about launching a token• Why crypto lawyers are the new therapists• Whether the EU’s MiCA law will fix the mess — or just create new ones Timecodes: 00:00 — Welcome back: legal talk with a crypto native06:30 — His first ETH trade and falling down the rabbit hole12:51 — Why TX Legal was born (and why the work won’t stop)19:18 — “Do I need a license?” — most common founder mistake25:37 — The meme token that changed regulation forever32:03 — You don’t need a lawyer (yet)… or do you?38:59 — Monetization and the blurry line of compliance44:52 — Why power always gets centralized — even in crypto51:21 — On VCs, founders, and the myth of pure decentralization57:47 — Legal gray zones: high risk, high reward1:04:07 — “I’m not gonna rug you” — on founder responsibility1:10:36 — Real-world crypto use: Brazil, Venezuela, survival1:16:56 — Arbitraging central banks? Welcome to 2025

    1 h y 23 min
  5. 23/04/2025

    EP. 16 Private by Design: Building Crypto’s Safer Future with Max From Arcane Finance

    In this episode of The SwapSpace Huddle, we explore one of crypto’s most nuanced frontiers: on-chain privacy and social trading — with Max, co-founder of Arcane Finance and the stealth-mode project Trend.Run. From getting paid in Bitcoin back in 2014 (and selling at $200!) to building privacy-first trading protocols on Alio Network, Max shares what it means to live on-chain without giving up control — or your identity. We unpack the messy relationship between regulation and privacy, the UX hurdles slowing down DeFi, and why crypto’s next billion users might never need a bank. We also get a sneak peek at Trend.Run, a protocol that rethinks copy trading by aligning incentives, verifying performance, and keeping reputations on-chain. Whether you're a DeFi power user, a privacy advocate, or just curious about where crypto's going next — this episode offers a candid look at the tension between decentralization and adoption, and what happens when you try to have the best of both worlds. ⏱️ Episode Breakdown 🕐 00:22 — Welcome and disclaimer🕐 00:33 — Meet Max: Arcane Finance and Trend.Run🕐 01:50 — Crypto origin story: paid in BTC in 2014, sold at $200🕐 04:36 — The vibe shift: from crypto anarchy to regulatory realism🕐 06:30 — Can privacy and regulation co-exist?🕐 07:29 — Why public blockchains limit real-world use cases🕐 09:08 — Bitcoin as a true escape hatch (but not ideal for daily payments)🕐 11:41 — Global regulation: UAE, Africa, Europe, and the future of MiCA🕐 13:19 — Stablecoins as crypto’s Trojan horse for mainstream business🕐 14:06 — The Tornado Cash chilling effect and a privacy resurgence🕐 16:28 — UX is broken: the need for hybrid solutions🕐 20:15 — Zcash vs. Monero: same tech, different PR🕐 22:43 — Bitcoin ETFs and the TradFi invasion🕐 26:49 — How developing economies are driving grassroots adoption🕐 30:06 — The vision for Arcane: private DEXs with smart contract transparency🕐 37:03 — The case for reusable, ZK-powered digital identity🕐 48:10 — Arcane on Alio: private, programmable, and already live🕐 52:46 — Centralized exchanges as unintended privacy tools🕐 57:26 — Introducing Trend.Run: real social trading with on-chain rep🕐 01:01:06 — Why public wallets without accountability don’t work🕐 01:01:59 — Final thoughts: solving crypto’s biggest UX and trust issues

    1 h y 9 min
  6. 11/04/2025

    EP. 15 From Fiat to Future: Paybis and the Crypto Shift with Konstantin Vasilenko

    In this episode of The SwapSpace Huddle, we dive into the real-world challenges of crypto onboarding with Konstantin, co-founder of Paybis. From the early days of learning about Bitcoin at Accenture to building one of the most user-friendly fiat-to-crypto bridges, Konstantin shares how Paybis is helping millions make their first crypto purchase — no KYC required under $1,000. We unpack what’s holding mainstream adoption back, why UI/UX matters more than ever, and how small steps like $10 into BTC can turn crypto-curious lurkers into long-term holders. It’s a story about simplicity, security, and staying power — and why building trust is the only way forward. Whether you're new to crypto or building for others, this episode will leave you rethinking what "accessible crypto" really means. ⏱️ Episode Breakdown 🕐 00:22 — From Accenture to Bitcoin: Konstantin’s Crypto Origin Story 🕐 04:55 — How Paybis Started: Making Bitcoin Easy Since 2014 🕐 06:22 — Wallets, Fireblocks & Why Security Has to Be Invisible 🕐 10:09 — 420M Crypto Users, But Most Still Don’t Understand It 🕐 12:03 — “Is It Too Late to Buy Bitcoin?” Why Long-Term Still Wins 🕐 14:56 — The Dollar-Cost-Average Mindset: Bitcoin as Modern Saving 🕐 16:13 — UX > APY: Why Onboarding Needs to Feel Like Shopping 🕐 19:22 — What Makes Paybis Different (Spoiler: It's Not Just Rates) 🕐 22:34 — Paybis for B2B: On-Ramps, Processing & White-Label SDKs 🕐 26:59 — Why Wallet Connect Isn’t Worth the Risk (Yet) 🕐 29:51 — Fireblocks, Social Engineering & The Anatomy of a Scam 🕐 34:55 — Keeping the Average User Safe Without Them Knowing 🕐 37:25 — Mobile-First Crypto: 70% of Users, 10-Second Purchases 🕐 41:36 — How SwapSpace x Paybis Onboarding Flow Actually Works 🕐 45:27 — Looking Ahead: Cards, Accounts, Passive Earn & Expansion 🕐 51:30 — Fundraising, Roadmaps & Becoming a Tier-1 Crypto Brand 🕐 53:52 — Final Advice: Skip the Latte, Stack Sats — One Step at a Time

    1 h y 1 min
  7. 08/04/2025

    EP. 14 Why Crypto Can’t Win (Yet) With Pauline Shengett from ChangeNow

    In this episode of The SwapSpace Huddle, we sit down with Pauline, CMO of ChangeNOW, to explore the volatile evolution of crypto — from meme coin mania and regulatory gaps to the real-life adoption stories unfolding in Argentina, LATAM, and beyond. Pauline opens up about growing with the industry, surviving scams, and building through both bull and bear markets. We get into the dark side of decentralization, the ethics of meme coins, and why crypto still holds revolutionary potential — if we get it right. Whether you’re in it for the tech, the freedom, or the fight against fraud, this one pulls no punches. ⏱️ Episode Breakdown 🕐 00:22 — Pauline’s Crypto Origin: From Linguistics to Leading ChangeNOW 🕐 03:14 — Growing with the Market: Bull, Bear & Building 🕐 07:20 — Cash, Banks, Crypto: Where It All Stands Today 🕐 09:31 — Decentralization vs. Dark Markets: Crypto’s Libertarian Roots 🕐 11:46 — The Stablecoin Lifeline in Argentina & Beyond 🕐 15:28 — The Meme Coin Effect: Doge, NFTs & the 2021 Flood 🕐 17:46 — Can Regulation Save Adoption? 🕐 21:36 — Why Pauline Still Believes in Crypto 🕐 23:40 — BitConnect, SafeMoon & the Psychology of Scams 🕐 26:11 — Why the Media Gets Crypto Wrong 🕐 31:49 — ChangeNOW’s Global Userbase & Why Localization Matters 🕐 35:34 — The Libra Token Mess in Argentina 🕐 37:55 — Regulation, Rugpulls & the Ethics of Meme Coins 🕐 41:14 — Dogecoin’s Forgotten Educational Purpose 🕐 45:22 — Alpha Wars: Info, AI Bots & Trading Psychology 🕐 47:17 — Mass Adoption Is a Herd Game 🕐 48:19 — Crypto vs. Fiat: A Medieval Parable 🕐 53:27 — NFTs: From Cultural Hype to Deadweight 🕐 58:58 — Can Utility Tokens Still Win? 🕐 1:01:20 — Don’t Forget the Good: ZK, DeFi, and Privacy Chains 🕐 1:02:50 — Crypto Is Still a Propeller Plane — But the Jet Age Is Coming 🕐 1:02:50 — Tech That Still Matters: ZK, Privacy & Real Use Cases 🕐 1:05:30 — AI, Content, and the Fight Against Slop 🕐 1:10:37 — Human Work, Real Skills & the Return of Originality 🕐 1:15:04 — Language, Translation & How Narratives Shape Truth 🕐 1:20:27 — AI Copy vs. Real Voice: Pauline’s Rules for Authenticity 🕐 1:23:14 — Final CTA: ChangeNOW, Telegram & Staying Human

    1 h y 26 min
  8. 04/04/2025

    EP. 13 Scaling Bitcoin - How @eCashOfficial Optimizes for Planetary Scale with Amaury Sechet from eCash

    In this episode, we sit down with Amaury Séchet, Founder of eCash, to explore the future of peer-to-peer digital money. We discuss the challenges of scaling Bitcoin, how Avalanche consensus helps prevent forks, and why eCash might be the most overlooked innovation in crypto. From the downfall of Bitcoin Cash to the flaws of Lightning Network and Solana’s trade-offs, Amaury breaks it all down with precision. If you’re ready to rethink what digital cash should look like, this one’s for you. Episode Breakdown 🕐 00:28 — State of the Market & eCash’s Steady DevelopmentAmaury shares why short-term price swings don’t affect long-term progress. 🕐 02:10 — From Cypherpunks to Bitcoin: Amaury’s Origin StoryHow a banking crisis in Cyprus pushed him into Bitcoin—and eventually to build something better. 🕐 10:03 — What Is eCash and How Is It Different?A fork of Bitcoin Cash, with Avalanche for fast finality and on-chain governance. 🕐 12:28 — Bitcoin’s Scaling Problem & the Return of IntermediariesWhy Bitcoin’s design choices make custodial wallets the norm—and that’s a step backward. 🕐 15:09 — How Avalanche Brings Finality to eCashCombining Avalanche with Nakamoto consensus to achieve fast, reliable confirmation. 🕐 18:34 — The Problem with Lightning NetworkWhy Lightning can’t scale and just repeats the legacy banking model. 🕐 22:00 — Solana, Ethereum & eCash: Different Trade-OffsAccount model vs. UTXO model: why eCash prioritizes scalability over smart contract complexity. 🕐 26:51 — The Social Block to Bitcoin ScalingWhy scaling Bitcoin wasn’t a technical failure—it was a cultural one. 🕐 33:03 — Is eCash the Best Tech Nobody Talks About?Amaury argues eCash is one of the strongest technical projects in crypto. 🕐 37:17 — Altcoins & Bitcoin’s Missed OpportunityCould scaling Bitcoin have prevented the altcoin explosion? 🕐 40:34 — Bitcoin’s Price Volatility ExplainedWhy miner economics and fiat-denominated costs create boom-bust cycles. 🕐 42:42 — Sub-Cent Transaction Fees & MicropaymentsHow eCash enables fast, low-cost transactions—even for buying a coffee. 🕐 44:11 — The Broken Fee Market in BitcoinFixed block sizes lead to unpredictable fees and congestion. 🕐 46:03 — What Other Blockchains Can Learn from MoneroElastic block sizes and incentives as a better alternative to Bitcoin’s rigid model. 🕐 48:56 — Stablecoins, Digital Payments & eCash’s RoleCan eCash challenge centralized stablecoins as the go-to digital money? 🕐 53:08 — Why Crypto Needs Spendability, Not Just ScarcityAmaury’s vision: a crypto that’s both a store of value and everyday cash. 🕐 57:20 — The Real Reason Bitcoin Became “Digital Gold”How ideology—not technology—pushed Bitcoin away from being used as money. 🕐 1:00:46 — The Future of Money and CivilizationWhy a currency that’s both spendable and scarce could reshape the world. 🕐 1:01:32 — eCash Smart Contracts: Built for EfficiencyMore powerful than Bitcoin, simpler than Ethereum—find the balance. 🕐 1:02:57 — Cross-Chain Interoperability with AvalancheWhy eCash might become a key player in blockchain communication. 🕐 1:04:12 — Avalanche Governance: A New Era of Blockchain UpgradesHow Avalanche consensus allows for smoother rule changes and prevents contentious forks. 🕐 1:06:28 — Fork History: Lessons from Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash & LevelDBAmaury recalls the infamous Bitcoin fork due to database issues—and what eCash is doing differently. 🕐 1:09:01 — Why Fork-Free Governance MattersHow Avalanche protects users and developers from sudden disruptions. 🕐 1:11:00 — Real-World Use Cases & eCash’s Long-Term VisionFrom inflation-resistant money to global payments—what success looks like for eCash. 🕐 1:14:00 — Final Thoughts: The Case for Spendable CryptoWhy crypto’s biggest impact won’t be from speculation, but from utility.

    1 h y 18 min

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SwapSpace Huddle is your go-to podcast for all things crypto and blockchain! Join us as we host global experts and thought leaders who share insights on successful projects, emerging trends, and the future of decentralized technologies. Each episode dives deep into critical topics, from DeFi to NFTs, making complex concepts accessible for everyone. Tune in and be part of the conversation!