Most of us aren't struggling with a lack of information. We're struggling with a lack of steadiness. In a world that feels louder and more uncertain than ever, this episode asks the question many of us quietly carry: what does it actually mean to live a spiritual life in real, everyday human terms? In this conversation, Sana sits down with Kevin Roth, renowned dulcimer artist, author, cancer survivor, and spiritual life coach, who shares how a stage 3 melanoma diagnosis in 2015 became the wake-up call that transformed everything. Together, they explore practical spirituality, the difference between information and inner clarity, and why the slow, consistent path is the only one that truly holds. About the Guest: Kevin Roth is a world-renowned dulcimer artist, singer, songwriter, and author who has recorded 65 albums and sang the beloved theme to the PBS show Shining Time Station. After being diagnosed with stage 3 melanoma in 2015 and given only a few years to live, Kevin chose a radically different path. He is now a spiritual life coach, the creator of the Dulcimeditation practice, and the author of Between the Notes. He teaches what he calls practical spirituality, grounded in lived experience, non-duality, and the simple question: Who am I? Key Takeaways: You are not the world, you are you. The chaos around you does not define your inner state. Practical spirituality means learning to stay rooted in yourself even when everything outside is spinning.Health is your greatest asset, and it runs four ways: mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual. Without it, nothing else, not money, not success, not achievement, truly holds.Clarity is a practice, not a destination. Ask yourself what really matters, why it matters, and what you're going to do about it. These three questions, explored honestly, can quietly change your life.Spirituality is not a magic wand. It won't fix everything or bypass real struggle. What it offers is a slower, more grounded way of being with what is, which makes more room for genuine healing.The slow drip process works. Just like building strength in a gym, meaningful inner growth starts small and stays consistent. Quick fixes don't hold; steadiness over time does.Stop stepping in it. When you see people, places, and patterns that don't serve you, you don't have to engage. Learning to walk around what drains you is not avoidance, it is wisdom. Connect With Kevin Roth: Website: https://kevinroth.org LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-roth-founder-speaker-musician-author-601b931aa/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIHtnBM5QzQ5-RienozI2-Q Episode Chapters: [00:00] Welcome to The Mindful Living — Sana opens with the question of what it really means to live spiritually in today's world [10:23] Meet Kevin Roth — his musical legacy, the melanoma diagnosis, and why he chose to get busy living [13:50] Practical Spirituality — Kevin introduces the concept and the three things you need to know in this life [19:30] The Wake-Up Call — how facing mortality led Kevin toward non-duality, Ramana Maharshi, and a new kind of clarity [21:50] The Movie Screen — why the mind and ego don't physically exist, and what that means for how we suffer [26:10] Choosing a Simpler Life — how Kevin walked away from toxic patterns, debt, and Kansas for California and a bohemian beginning [30:50] Spirituality Is Not a Magic Wand — the honest conversation about what inner work does and doesn't fix 🎙️ Want to Be a Guest on Healthy Mind, Healthy Life? 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