Doom Debates!

Liron Shapira

It's time to talk about the end of the world. With your host, Liron Shapira. lironshapira.substack.com

  1. Destiny's Fans Challenged Me to an AI Doom Debate

    1 HARI LALU

    Destiny's Fans Challenged Me to an AI Doom Debate

    Fresh off my debate with Destiny, his Discord community invited me into their voice chat to talk about AI doom. Just like the man himself, his fans are sharp. Let's find out where they get off The Doom Train™. My recent debate with Destiny — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNgffLZTeWw Timestamps 00:00:00 — Cold Open 00:00:54 — Liron Joins Destiny’s Discord 00:02:21 — The AI Doom Premise 00:03:27 — Defining Intelligence and Is An LLM Really AI? 00:07:12 — Will AI Become Uncontrollable? 00:12:44 — The AI Alignment Problem 00:24:11 — The Difficulty of Pausing AI 00:26:01 — AI vs The Human Brain 00:32:41 — Future AI Capabilities, Steering Toward Goals, & Philosophical Disagreements Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate. Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe

    39 min
  2. Doomsday Clock Physicist Warns AI Is Major Threat to Humanity!

    3 HARI LALU

    Doomsday Clock Physicist Warns AI Is Major Threat to Humanity!

    Renowned scientists just set The Doomsday Clock closer than ever to midnight. I agree our collective doom seems imminent, but why do the clocksetters point to climate change—not rogue AI—as an existential threat? UChicago Professor Daniel Holz, a top physicist who sets the Doomsday Clock, joins me to debate society’s top existential risks. 00:00:00 — Cold Open  00:00:51 — Introducing Professor Holz 00:02:08 — The Doomsday Clock is at 85 Seconds to Midnight!  00:04:37 — What's Your P(Doom)?™  00:08:09 — Making A Probability of Doomsday, or P(Doom), Equation  00:12:07 — How We All Die: Nuclear vs Climate vs AI  00:21:08 — Nuclear Close Calls from The Cold War  00:28:38 — History of The Doomsday Clock  00:30:18 — The Threat of Biological Risks Like Mirror Life  00:33:40 — Professor Holz’s Position on AI Misalignment Risk  00:44:49 — Does The Doomsday Clock Give Short Shrift to AI Misalignment Risk?  00:59:09 — Why Professor Holz Founded UChicago’s Existential Risk Laboratory (XLab)  01:06:22 — The State of Academic Research on AI Safety & Existential Risks  01:12:32 — The Case for Pausing AI Development  01:17:11 — Debate: Is Climate Change an Existential Threat?  01:28:48 — Call to Action: How to Reduce Our Collective Threat Links Professor Daniel Holz’s Wikipedia — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Holz XLab (Existential Risk Laboratory) — https://xrisk.uchicago.edu/ 2026 Doomsday Clock Statement — https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/2026-statement/ The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (Nonprofit that produces the clock)— https://thebulletin.org/ UChicago Magazine features Prof. Holz’s class — “Are We Doomed?”: https://mag.uchicago.edu/science-medicine/are-we-doomed The Doomsday Machine by Daniel Ellsberg — https://www.amazon.com/Doomsday-Machine-Confessions-Nuclear-Planner/dp/1608196704 If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies by Eliezer Yudkowsky & Nate Soares — https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Builds-Everyone-Dies-Superhuman/dp/0316595640 Learn more about pausing frontier AI development from PauseAI — https://pauseai.info Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate. Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe

    1j 36m
  3. Why I Started Doom Debates & How to Succeed in AI Risk Communications

    19 FEB

    Why I Started Doom Debates & How to Succeed in AI Risk Communications

    Liron was invited to give a presentation to some of the most promising creators in AI safety communications. Get a behind-the-scenes look at Doom Debates and how the channel has grown so quickly. Learn more about the Frame Fellowship: https://framefellowship.com/ Timestamps 00:00:00 — Liron tees up the presentation 00:02:28 — Liron’s Frame Fellowhip Presentation 00:06:03 — Introducing Doom Debates 00:07:44 — Meeting the Frame Fellows 00:19:38 — Why I Started Doom Debates 00:30:20 — Handling Hate and Criticism 00:31:56 — The Talent Stack 00:39:34 — Finding Your Unique Niche 00:40:58 — Q&A 00:42:04 — On Funding the Show 00:48:05 — Audience Demographics & Gender Strategy 00:51:17 — How to communicate AI Risk Effectively 00:56:22 — Social Media Strategy 00:58:10 — Closing Remarks Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate. Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe

    1 jam
  4. Destiny Raises His P(Doom) At The End

    17 FEB

    Destiny Raises His P(Doom) At The End

    Destiny has racked up millions of views for his sharp takes on political and cultural news. Now, I finally get to ask him about a topic he’s been agnostic on: Will AI end humanity? Come ride with us on the Doom Train™ 🚂 Timestamps 00:00:00 — Teaser 00:01:16 — Welcoming Destiny 00:02:54 — What’s Your P(Doom)?™ 00:04:46 — 2017 vs 2026: Destiny’s views on AI 00:11:04 — AI could vastly surpass human intelligence 00:16:02 — Can AI doom us? 00:18:42 — Intelligence doesn’t guarantee morality 00:22:18 — The vibes-based case against doom 00:29:58 — The human brain is inefficient 00:35:17 — Does every intelligence in the universe self-destruct via AI? 00:37:28 — Destiny turns the tables: Where does Liron get off The Doom Train™ 00:46:07 — Will a warning shot cause society to develop AI safely? 00:54:10 — Roko’s Basilisk, the AI box problem 00:59:37 — Will Destiny update his P(Doom)?™ 01:04:19 — Closing thoughts Links Destiny's YouTube — https://www.youtube.com/@destiny Destiny's X account — https://x.com/TheOmniLiberal Marc Andreessen saying AI isn’t dangerous because “it is math” — https://a16z.com/ai-will-save-the-world/ Will Smith eating spaghetti AI video — https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ai-will-smith-eating-spaghetti Roko’s Basilisk on LessWrong — https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/rokos-basilisk Eliezer Yudkowsky’s AI Box Experiment — https://www.yudkowsky.net/singularity/aibox Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate. Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe

    1j 7m
  5. The Facade of AI Safety Will Crumble (Video)

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    The Facade of AI Safety Will Crumble (Video)

    On the eve of superintelligence, real AI safety is a nonexistent field. I break down why in my latest essay, The Facade of AI Safety Will Crumble. This is a podcast reading of a recent Substack post: https://lironshapira.substack.com/p/the-facade-of-ai-safety-will-crumble Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate. Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe

    10 min
  6. Elon Musk's Insane Plan for Surviving AI Takeover

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    Elon Musk's Insane Plan for Surviving AI Takeover

    Elon Musk just made a stunning admission about the insane future he’s steering us toward. In a new interview with Dwarkesh Patel and John Collison on the Cheeky Pint podcast, Elon said that humanity can’t expect to be “in charge” of AI for long, because humans will soon only have 1% of the combined total human+AI intelligence. Then, he claimed to have a plan to build AI overlords that will naturally support humanity's flourishing. In this mini episode, I react to Elon's remarks and expose why his plan for humanity's survival in the age of AI is dangerously flimsy. My original tweet: https://x.com/liron/status/2020906862397489492 Clip source: Elon Musk – "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space” Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate. Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe

    10 min

  7. 13 FEB

    The Only Politician Thinking Clearly About Superintelligence — California Governor Candidate Zoltan Istvan

    California gubernatorial candidate Zoltan Istvan reveals his P(Doom) and makes the case for universal basic income and radical life extension. Timestamps 00:00:00 — Teaser 00:00:50 — Meet Zoltan, Democratic Candidate for California Governor 00:08:30 — The 2026 California Governor's Race 00:12:50 — Zoltan's Platform Is Automated Abundance 00:19:45 — What's Your P(Doom)™ 00:28:26 — Campaigning on Existential Risk 00:32:36 — Does Zoltan Support a Global AI Pause? 00:48:39 — Exploring His Platform: Education, Crime, and Affordability 01:08:55 — Exploring His Platform:: Super Cities, Space, and Longevity 01:13:00 — Closing Thoughts Links Zoltan Istvan’s Campaign for California Governor – zoltanistvan2026.com The Transhumanist Wager by Zoltan Istvan – https://www.amazon.com/Transhumanist-Wager-Zoltan-Istvan/dp/0988616114 Wired Article on the “Bunker” Party – https://www.wired.com/story/ai-risk-party-san-francisco/ PauseAI – pauseai.info SL4 Mailing List Archive – sl4.org/archive Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate. Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe

    1j 19m

  8. 10 FEB

    His P(Doom) Is Only 2.6% — AI Doom Debate with Bentham's Bulldog, a.k.a. Matthew Adelstein

    Get ready for a rematch with the one & only Bentham’s Bulldog, a.k.a. Matthew Adelstein! Our first debate covered a wide range of philosophical topics. Today’s Debate #2 is all about Matthew’s new argument against the inevitability of AI doom. He comes out swinging with a calculated P(Doom) of just 2.6% , based on a multi-step probability chain that I challenge as potentially falling into a “Type 2 Conjunction Fallacy” (a.k.a. Multiple Stage Fallacy). We clash on whether to expect “alignment by default” and the nature of future AI architectures. While Matthew sees current RLHF success as evidence that AIs will likely remain compliant, I argue that we’re building “Goal Engines” — superhuman optimization modules that act like nuclear cores wrapped in friendly personalities. We debate whether these engines can be safely contained, or if the capability to map goals to actions is inherently dangerous and prone to exfiltration. Despite our different forecasts (my 50% vs his sub-10%), we actually land in the “sane zone” together on some key policy ideas, like the potential necessity of a global pause. While Matthew’s case for low P(Doom) hasn’t convinced me, I consider his post and his engagement with me to be super high quality and good faith. We’re not here to score points, we just want to better predict how the intelligence explosion will play out. Timestamps 00:00:00 — Teaser 00:00:35 — Bentham’s Bulldog Returns to Doom Debates 00:05:43 — Higher-Order Evidence: Why Skepticism is Warranted 00:11:06 — What’s Your P(Doom)™ 00:14:38 — The “Multiple Stage Fallacy” Objection 00:21:48 — The Risk of Warring AIs vs. Misalignment 00:27:29 — Historical Pessimism: The “Boy Who Cried Wolf” 00:33:02 — Comparing AI Risk to Climate Change & Nuclear War 00:38:59 — Alignment by Default via Reinforcement Learning 00:46:02 — The “Goal Engine” Hypothesis 00:53:13 — Is Psychoanalyzing Current AI Valid for Future Systems? 01:00:17 — Winograd Schemas & The Fragility of Value 01:09:15 — The Nuclear Core Analogy: Dangerous Engines in Friendly Wrappers 01:16:16 — The Discontinuity of Unstoppable AI 01:23:53 — Exfiltration: Running Superintelligence on a Laptop 01:31:37 — Evolution Analogy: Selection Pressures for Alignment 01:39:08 — Commercial Utility as a Force for Constraints 01:46:34 — Can You Isolate the “Goal-to-Action” Module? 01:54:15 — Will Friendly Wrappers Successfully Control Superhuman Cores? 02:04:01 — Moral Realism and Missing Out on Cosmic Value 02:11:44 — The Paradox of AI Solving the Alignment Problem 02:19:11 — Policy Agreements: Global Pauses and China 02:26:11 — Outro: PauseCon DC 2026 Promo Links Bentham’s Bulldog Official Substack — https://benthams.substack.com The post we debated — https://benthams.substack.com/p/against-if-anyone-builds-it-everyone Apply to PauseCon DC 2026 here or via https://pauseai-us.org Forethought Institute’s paper: Preparing for the Intelligence Explosion Tom Davidson (Forethought Institute)’s post: How quick and big would a software intelligence explosion be? Scott Alexander on the Coffeepocalypse Argument --- Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate. Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe

    2j 28m
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