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The Dive Down is a podcast focused on Magic: The Gathering's Modern and Pioneer formats, with the casual spike in mind. Each week your hosts Dave, Shane, and Stanislav discuss decks, events, and level-up topics related to the latest non-rotating formats.
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The Dive Down is a podcast focused on Magic: The Gathering's Modern and Pioneer formats, with the casual spike in mind. Each week your hosts Dave, Shane, and Stanislav discuss decks, events, and level-up topics related to the latest non-rotating formats.
Proudly sponsored by ManaTraders, the best Magic card rental service for both Magic Online and paper! Get 20% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"
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    Pioneer Bans & Modern Prowess Stans

    Pioneer Bans & Modern Prowess Stans

    This week we break down the 4 new bans in Pioneer, and talk about what this means for the format! In the Dive Down we go over the many flavors of Prowess in Modern: Red, Izzet, Gruul, Rakdos - how to choose?!


    The Break Down: A Lovely Surprise Banning!
    The Dive Down: Not Everyone's Tempo
    The Dive Down, cont: We Could Bolt or Not Bolt Forever


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    Timestamps:
    2:48 - Housekeeping
    6:11 - The Break Down begins: SURPRISE BANS!
    26:35 - Takes on the bans
    32:39 - The Dive Down begins: The many flavors of Prowess
    36:35 - A Red Prowess Primer 
    52:19 - Hey.... what's tempo?
    57:35 - The decks we covered
    1:04:06 - Izzet Prowess
    1:09:45 - A strategic digression - the tempo of Prowess
    1:14:55 - Back to Izzet Prowess
    1:17:14 - Gruul Prowess
    1:25:13 - Rakdos Prowess
    1:33:40 - Burn vs. Prowess
    1:39:08 - Why cast the "bad" spells of Prowess?
    1:44:57 - Closing out


    Links from this week's episode:
    The August 8, 2020 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/august-8-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement
    Izzet Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3234953#paper
    Gruul Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3234957#paper
    Rakdos Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3234951#paper


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    The Many Moods of Mystic Sanctuary

    The Many Moods of Mystic Sanctuary

    This week we take a look at one of the most popular and powerful cards in Modern - Mystic Sanctuary. What makes it good, how is it being played, and what can you do with it? Before that, we break down the Manatraders July Modern 15k tournament.


    The Break Down: Modern Manatraders
    The Dive Down: Making Mystic Mighty


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    Timestamps:
    2:27 - Housekeeping
    5:00 - The Break Down begins - The Manatraders July Modern 15k
    9:50 - The MT meta
    18:48 - The top 32
    27:38 - Conversion rate discussion
    32:52 - The Top 8
    36:30 - The top cards
    42:59 - The Dive Down begins - a brief history of Mystic Sanctuary
    51:26 - What makes Sanctuary messed-up?
    58:15 - The value plan of Sanctuary
    1:11:15 - The impact on your mana
    1:18:05 - The loops
    1:30:10 - The strategies
    1:34:25 - Facing down Sanctuary
    1:39:05 - Is this the best card in Modern?
    1:45:55 - Closing out


    Links from this week's episode:
    Gruul Prowess: https://goodgriefgames.wordpress.com/2020/04/22/brewed-up-r-g-prowess-modern/
    Mystic Sanctuary is a Messed-Up Magic Card: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/mystic-sanctuary-is-a-messed-up-magic-card/
    People Are Sleeping On Mystic Sanctuary: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/people-are-sleeping-on-mystic-sanctuary/
    Examining The Future Of Mystic Sanctuary In Modern: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/examining-the-future-of-mystic-sanctuary-in-modern/


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    • 1 hr 47 min
    That New Meta Smell

    That New Meta Smell

    On this week's episode, the team does a long break down on what's happened in Pioneer and Modern in the week since our most recent bans. Takes are given... and returned? Moods are had... and worked out? Then we talk about what we've been playing lately. Ponza! White Tokens! UR Prowess! Mono Green Devotion! We'll let you guess who is who!


    The Break Down: Modern/Pioneer: Similar/Same
    The Dive Down: Our Decks: That's the Same Picture


    Timestamps:
    4:42 - Break Down Begins
    5:24 - Modern Analysis Begins
    12:44 - Modern Week 1 Metagame
    29:50 - The Modern Winner's Metagame
    42:30 - Pioneer Analysis Begins
    50:06 - Pioneer’s Tier 2 and Beyond
    55:00 - What do we want Pioneer to be?
    1:04:57 - The Pioneer Winner’s Metagame
    1:12:35 - Dive Down Begins: Our Testing Results
    1:16:44 - Modern Mono-White Tokens
    1:25:20 - Pioneer Mono-Green Devotion
    1:35:06 - Modern Izzet Blitz


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    • 1 hr 49 min
    Bans: 1 Mana Permanents Edition ft. Aspiring Spike

    Bans: 1 Mana Permanents Edition ft. Aspiring Spike

    On this week's episode, friend of the show Evart Moughon aka Aspiring Spike drops in for a reaction to the latest Banned & Restricted announcement. Then we talk about some of Evart's latest takes on Modern Control.


    The Break Down: July 2020 B&R in Modern & Pioneer
    The Dive Down: Modern Control Concepts
    Wind Down: Spiking Listener Questions


    Timestamps:
    5:10 - Break Down Begins - July 2020 B&R
    57:24 - Dive Down Begins - Current State of Modern Control and Evart's Izzet Deck
    1:35:05 - Wind Down Begins - Listener Questions!


    Links from this week's episode:
    July 2020 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/july-13-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2020-07-13?ryujyu
    Aspiring Spike's Izzet Control: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3169395#paper
    Aspiring Spike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart
    Aspiring Spike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike


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    • 1 hr 50 min
    A Dive Down State of Mind

    A Dive Down State of Mind

    This week the team tries to just chill (for once) and ends up with a 60min+ Break Down of the last 6 months of Modern and Pioneer, some ban speculation (before the upcoming announcement was announced), and answering listener questions. Shane brings some takes. Stanislav disagrees with Dave. Dave opens packs on air in retaliation. It's another week on The Down Down!


    The Break Down: 6 months of Modern + Pioneer
    The Dive Down: Listener questions


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    Timestamps:
    3:20 - Housekeeping
    4:59 - The extended Break Down begins - Modern and Pioneer in 2020
    6:35 - Modern in 2020
    10:15 - The Modern up-and-comers
    14:04 - Modern still hanging on
    21:35 - Modern Falling Stars
    28:13 - Recent Modern tournaments
    45:35 - Our takes on Modern in 2020
    49:15 - Pioneer in 2020
    50:50 - The Pioneer up-and-comers
    52:59 - Pioneer still hanging on and the falling stars
    54:29 - Recent Pioneer tournaments.... sorta
    57:55 - Our takes on the problems of Pioneer in 2020
    1:10:58 - What would we change in Pioneer?
    1:15:25 - What could be added to Pioneer?
    1:21:40 - What would we ban/unban in Modern?
    1:24:34 - The Wind Down begins: listener questions
    1:25:34 - How do we track our performance?
    1:31:30 - What promo cards do we like?
    1:35:55 - What makes a deck eternal?
    1:40:10 - What has been your favorite deck to play?
    1:43:14 - What other formats would we like to try?
    1:45:45 - What cards would we like to see printed into Modern?
    1:48:58 - Closing out


    Links/Tournaments Referenced in this week's episode:
    Modern Challenge #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-07-05
    Modern Challenge #2: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-07-06
    Pioneer League #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-league-2020-07-02
    Pioneer League #2: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-league-2020-07-06
    Pioneer Prelim #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-preliminary-2020-07-02


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    • 1 hr 50 min
    Bonus 8: Big on Tik Tok w/ Deezy_MTG

    Bonus 8: Big on Tik Tok w/ Deezy_MTG

    In this bonus episode, Stan sits down with Nick Valdez, AKA Deezy MTG to talk about the art of content creation, MTG comedy, and what it's like being the #1 Magic Tik Tok account in America and maybe the world!


    Find Nick
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/nickvaldeezy
    Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/deezy_mtg
    Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@deezymtg


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    • 1 hr 7 min

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