Just Love Them

Shiree Best

If you have searched to understand loved ones who have left their religious faith, this show is for you. As a mother of six out of seven children who have chosen a different path from the one they were raised in, I intimately understand the profound struggle this journey entails. On this compassionate exploration we share moments of laughter, tears, and resilience. Through insightful interviews, we unravel the personal struggles of individuals whose loved ones have ventured away from their initial beliefs, and how they emerged on the other side with newfound understanding and peace.

  1. 13 APR

    Staying in the Room, part 2 - With Jeff McLean

    In last week’s episode, we heard from Michael McLean. This week, we continue the conversation with his son, Jeff McLean — and you will not want to miss it. Jeff shares his deeply personal story of growing up in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints while quietly carrying a truth he didn’t yet feel safe to live: he is gay. For years, Jeff tried to fit into a framework that didn’t align with who he knew himself to be. He talks openly about the exhaustion of pretending… the ache of wanting to belong… and the internal conflict of loving his faith, his family, and yet feeling there was no space for his whole self. Eventually, Jeff reached a breaking point. He made the courageous decision to stop hiding. In this powerful conversation, Jeff shares: What it was like growing up in a well-known Latter-day Saint family The emotional toll of suppressing his identity The fear and freedom that came with coming out The rocky early years with his parents, and what he has learned about unconditional love How their relationship slowly shifted from pain and misunderstanding to love and acceptance Today, Jeff and his parents are not only close in their relationship — they are collaborators. Together, they have written a new book, "Stay in the Room", about what it means to remain present with each other through disagreement, hurt, faith transitions, and identity differences. This episode is tender. Honest. Hope-filled. It’s about truth-telling. It’s about staying. It’s about love that grows. Whether you are a parent of a child who has left your faith, someone navigating your own identity, or simply a human wanting to build deeper connection across difference — this conversation will move you. Jeff’s vulnerability is a gift. And his story is one that will stay with you. 🎧 Listen now to this brave and beautiful episode of Just Love Them. Link to "Stay in the Room" on Amazon Link to "Stay in the Room" on Simon and Schuster Link to song, "Broken Healer" by Jeff McLean Connect with Shiree at ⁠shireebest.com⁠  Join the⁠ "Just Love Them" Facebook group⁠ Email Shiree at imlivinginjoy@gmail.com

    45 min
  2. 6 APR

    Staying in the Room, part 1 - With Michael McLean

    What happens when the story you’ve built your life around begins to unravel? In this deeply personal and courageous episode, beloved singer-songwriter, performer, filmmaker, and author Michael McLean opens up about one of the most painful and transformative chapters of his life. Known for his inspiring music and messages of faith, Michael shares what happened behind the scenes when his son left the Church and came out as gay. What followed were years of confusion, heartache, distance, and a faith crisis Michael never expected. He vulnerably walks us through: The strain that entered their father-son relationship His own spiritual questioning and internal turmoil The turning point that began healing their relationship The truth he ultimately discovered about faith, love, and family This is not a polished stage story. It is raw. It is real. And it is hopeful. If you have a loved one who has left your faith… If someone you love has come out and you don’t know how to navigate it… If your relationship feels fragile or broken… This conversation will meet you in that tender space. Michael’s journey reminds us that healing doesn’t come through control, fear, or winning arguments—it comes through humility, listening, and a deeper kind of love. This is a rare look into a very private struggle—and a powerful testimony of what can happen when love becomes bigger than fear. Song: Safe Harbors Connect with Shiree at ⁠shireebest.com⁠  Join the⁠ "Just Love Them" Facebook group⁠ Email Shiree at imlivinginjoy@gmail.com

    1hr 2min

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If you have searched to understand loved ones who have left their religious faith, this show is for you. As a mother of six out of seven children who have chosen a different path from the one they were raised in, I intimately understand the profound struggle this journey entails. On this compassionate exploration we share moments of laughter, tears, and resilience. Through insightful interviews, we unravel the personal struggles of individuals whose loved ones have ventured away from their initial beliefs, and how they emerged on the other side with newfound understanding and peace.

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