Today on the podcast, we’re delighted to welcome back Jeremy Grantham to discuss his book, The Making of a Permabear: The Perils of Long-term Investing in a Short-term World, which he co-authored with Edward Chancellor. Jeremy is the long-term investment strategist at his namesake firm, Grantham, Mayo, Van Otterloo & Company, or GMO, which he co-founded in 1977. He serves on GMO’s asset-allocation committee and board of directors. Prior to GMO, Jeremy was co-founder of Batterymarch Financial Management and, before that, was an economist at Royal Dutch Shell. He earned his undergraduate degree from the University of Sheffield and his MBA from Harvard University. Jeremy is a member of the Academy of Arts and Sciences, holds a CBE from the UK, and is a recipient of the Carnegie Medal of Philanthropy. In 1997, he and his family started the Grantham Foundation for the protection of the environment, which supports research and action to address climate change. Episode Highlights 00:00:00 Writing Permabear With Edward Chancellor 00:06:44 Value Investing and Identifying Market Bubbles 00:15:07 Current Market Outlook and Valuation Risks 00:20:28 Value Discipline, SpaceX’s IPO, and Past Market Bubbles 00:27:26 Speculative Trading, Indexing, and Zero‑Sum Markets 00:34:24 Market Inefficiencies, Small-Cap Stocks, and the Greater Fool Theory 00:43:27 Artificial Intelligence Hype, Attractive Assets, and Market Pessimism 00:47:02 Climate Risks, Resource Constraints, and Shrinking Populations More From Morningstar 3 Warnings for Investors From the Ultimate Contrarian Ben Carlson: Exploring Risk and Reward What Today’s Index ETFs Get Right, and Wrong, for Investors If you have a comment or a guest idea, please email us at TheLongView@Morningstar.com. Follow Christine Benz (@christine_benz) and Ben Johnson (@MstarBenJohnson) on X, and Christine Benz, Amy Arnott, and Ben Johnson on LinkedIn. Visit Morningstar.com for new research and insights from Christine, Ben, and Amy. Subscribe to Christine’s weekly newsletter, Improving Your Finances. If you want more Morningstar podcasts, check out The Morning Filter and Investing Insights. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.