Chaos and Creativity

Lou Lesko
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Musician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries. Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss the creative industries through the lens of their experiences and interviews with independent musicians, filmmakers, photographers, writers, and artists.

  1. 5 FEB

    Michael Alan Ross: Porsche Outlaws

    In this episode, we talk with Michael Alan Ross, photographer, author of Porsche Outlaws: Stuttgart Hot Rods, and longtime creative professional. Michael shares his journey from a 25-year career as a musician to becoming a respected photographer after landing a singing role in a Ford commercial that introduced him to photography. We explore the world of Porsche Outlaws, where Porsche models are customized through weight reduction, suspension upgrades, and performance enhancements to create personalized, high performance cars. Michael also dives into the creative process behind editorial photography, emphasizing storytelling, problem-solving under pressure, and the importance of lighting, timing, location, and logistics. Throughout the conversation, Michael highlights the value of adaptability, strong creative relationships, and how “luck” often comes from years of preparation and hard work. Stay tuned for more Chaos & Creativity on Instagram. And remember, always act a little cooler than you feel.

    42 min

  2. 15 JAN

    More Chaos, More Creativity

    We’re kicking off the new year with some exciting announcements and big things ahead for the Chaos & Creativity universe. This year, we’re thrilled to introduce a new podcast hosted by Sabrina Sarl. Mothers of Creativity spotlights women who make a living through their creative work while also navigating motherhood. Becoming a mom can change everything, and this series explores how creative women continue to pursue their passions. Sabrina brings such a thoughtful, honest perspective to these conversations, and she has some truly special interviews planned for 2026. We also share what’s next for Chaos & Creativity, so be sure to tune in to hear what’s coming and how the show is continuing to grow. Stay tuned for more Chaos & Creativity on Instagram. And remember, always act a little cooler than you feel!

    9 min

  3. 18/12/2025

    The 12 Days of Christmas, Creative Edition

    We’ve made it to our last episode of the year and the season one finale. To close things out, Lou and Kimi are sharing 12 things they’ve been loving lately. These are things that have inspired them, helped them slow down, or simply made life a little better as creatives. This is our version of the 12 Days of Christmas. No endorsements, no sponsors. Just books, shows, tools, and ideas we genuinely enjoy. We’re talking about what we’re reading, watching, and adding into our lives as we head into a new year. Kimi’s Picks 1. Klara and the Sun 2. Deep Listening by Pauline Oliveros 3. Notion 4. Brick (screen time device) 5. Murder, She Wrote 6. Sisters with Transistors (2020 documentary) Lou’s Picks 1. WANDRD 2. Storyist 3. Scriptnotes 4. When Things Were Good: An Editor’s Adventures During the Last Golden Age of Magazines 5. Down Cemetery Road (Apple TV+) 6. Slow Horses (Apple TV+) Stay tuned for more Chaos & Creativity on Instagram. And remember, always act a little cooler than you feel!

    21 min

  4. 04/12/2025

    Your Inner Creative Cast with Kimi and Lou

    Kimi and Lou explore the different “characters” we step into throughout our lives — the versions of ourselves that show up in different moments, relationships, and creative seasons. They talk about the parts of us that live quietly inside, the ones that guide our choices, and the ones we grow out of. Lou shares what he’s learned from writing a stage play and how storytelling forces you to meet all these inner characters. They dig into collaboration, what it means to step into someone else’s creative world, how to add to it, and how to defend your own vision while still making room for others. A reflective episode on creativity, identity, and the art of building something together. Stay tuned for more Chaos & Creativity on Instagram. And remember, always act a little cooler than you feel!

    16 min

  5. 13/11/2025

    Jeff Burkhart: From Twenty Years Behind Bars to Tale of a Barfly

    Join Lou and Jeff Burkhart, award-winning writer, bartender, and columnist for the Marin Independent Journal, as they dive behind the scenes of Tale of a Barfly. Inspired by Jeff’s bestselling book Twenty Years Behind Bars: The Spirited Adventures of a Real Bartender, Tale of a Barfly is a story of life, love, and cocktails. It’s a riches-to-rags journey that reminds us all of life’s greatest truths can be found while watching the world from behind a bar. For over a decade, Jeff and Lou have collaborated on live, enhanced book readings performed to sold-out audiences at the Sweetwater in Mill Valley. Tale of a Barfly is their next ambitious evolution, an original play written by Lou and featuring Burkhart’s stories and spirit. A unique blend of storytelling, humor, and humanity, and a journey you won’t want to miss. Get your tickets now, they are selling fast!  https://tickets.marincenter.org/orderticketsarea.asp?p=5236&a=455&src=eventperformances

    29 min

  6. 23/10/2025

    Bitchsode: Remastering Art

    Kimi and Lou are back with their well-deserved opinions in this week’s minisode or what we’re now calling bitchsodes.  When Amazon quietly erased guns from classic James Bond posters, it sparked a bigger conversation about censorship, revisionism, and the strange urge to “remaster” the past. Why does art keep getting sanitized? Does censoring a movie poster really help anything? Lou and Kimi unpack it all, reminding us that erasing symbols won’t erase reality. Moral of the story: Bring back Napster... Stay tuned for more Chaos & Creativity on Instagram. And remember, always act a little cooler than you feel! Episode Links:  James Bond Poster The History of Napster Movie: The Social Network

    19 min

  7. 02/10/2025

    Joe Ingham: Behind the Scenes of Development

    Lou heads to London to chat with Joe Ingham, an award-winning producer and filmmaker who works in development and production across both the UK and US. Joe has helped bring projects to life with Amazon, BBC, Sky, Channel 4, Paramount, and more, and his films Baby Lies Truthfully and The Microcosm. In this episode, Joe breaks down what “development” in TV and film actually means, taking an idea from its earliest spark and shaping it into something ready for the screen. He talks about the creativity, patience, and people skills it takes to make it happen, plus the importance of keeping an open mind and creating space for new ideas. If you’ve ever wondered what really goes on before your favorite shows or documentaries get made, this conversation will pull back the curtain on a side of the industry most people never get to see. Stay tuned for more Chaos & Creativity on Instagram. And remember, always act a little cooler than you feel!

    48 min

  8. 18/09/2025

    Overproduction: AI, YouTube, and Creativity

    In this mini-episode, Lou and Kimi talk about YouTube running AI filters over videos, without creators asking for it. Has AI ever automatically edited your content? What does that mean for creativity? YouTube is one of the biggest living archives we have, but if AI starts changing our work, are we actually moving backward? Things are already at the point of overproduction, and social media feels exhausting.  Lou and Kimi ask: should AI be making creative decisions, or do we need to bring back imperfection and stay connected to art? Stay tuned for more Chaos & Creativity on Instagram. And remember, always act a little cooler than you feel! Episode Links:  BBC Article: YouTube secretly used AI to edit people's videos. The results could bend reality Rick Beato Youtube

    15 min
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Musician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries. Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss the creative industries through the lens of their experiences and interviews with independent musicians, filmmakers, photographers, writers, and artists.

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  • Creator
    Lou Lesko
  • Years Active
    2018 - 2026
  • Episodes
    23
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © 2026 Chaos and Creativity
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