2: Jason Miller on Modern JavaScript and the Future of preset-env

Jason Miller and Henry Zhu talk through a high level philosophy of transpilers (compilers), Babel's core mental model as the democratization of programming language design, and all nuances of the relationship between developers, TC39, browsers, tools. Let's look a the future of Babel.. through the future of preset-env with the newly released babel-preset-modules started by Jason! Transcript: https://podcast.babeljs.io/preset-env