Adopting Zero Trust

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Adopting Zero Trust offers an ongoing conversation that elevates cybersecurity conversations that encourages you to rethink how you build strategies, defend against threat actors, and implement new technology. We go beyond the millions in marketing budgets fueled by VCs, and chat with practitioners like you who want to make a difference (or hack the planet, which ever happens first). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. 29 jan

    The Security Debt We Pretend Isn’t There

    As organizations push return-to-office (RTO) mandates and chase efficiency, many security teams are quietly accumulating debt they don’t know how to unwind. In this episode, we are joined by Lea Cure Thorpe and Kayne McGladrey to unpack the less-discussed consequences of recent security decisions: RTO exposure, endpoint blind spots, tooling overload, analyst burnout, and the slow erosion of junior talent (thanks AI). Rather than going too crazy on hot takes and obvious trends, we focus in on operational reality, business risk, and what security leaders need to confront before these issues compound further. Where to Skim02:00 | Is the perimeter really dead? 06:30 | RTO fallout and the return of local network risk 12:30 | Endpoint sprawl, dirty devices, and SOC fatigue 18:30 | Cloud tooling, visibility gaps, and false assurances 26:00 | AI adoption: risk appetite vs. reality 33:30 | Identity, agentic AI, and trust amplification risk 41:00 | Workforce erosion and the efficiency trap 50:30 | The business math CISOs can’t avoid 58:30 | Career development, communication, and relevance Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    50 min.
  2. Whisper Leak: How Encrypted AI Chats Still Leak Conversation Topics

    11-12-2025

    Whisper Leak: How Encrypted AI Chats Still Leak Conversation Topics

    In this episode, we break down Whisper Leak, a newly disclosed side-channel issue affecting encrypted LLM communications. JBO explains how attackers can infer conversation topics using packet size and timing metadata without breaking encryption. The discussion covers how the research team discovered the issue, how vendors (including Microsoft and OpenAI) mitigated it, and what it means for the future of secure AI systems. 01:30 – What Whisper Leak Actually Is02:30 – Understanding Side-Channel Attacks04:00 – Why LLMs Are Uniquely Vulnerable08:00 – Stream Ciphers vs Block Ciphers13:30 – “Did You Break Encryption?” Clearing Up Misconceptions16:00 – Fixes & Mitigations Across LLM Vendors18:30 – Why Some Vendors Were More Vulnerable Than Others20:00 – Could High-End Adversaries Still Pull This Off?24:00 – How API Users Can Protect Themselves25:00 – Designing LLM Systems with Side Channels in Mind Guests: Jonathan (JBO) Bar Or, Principal Security Researcher, Microsoft Threat Intelligence, who just joined CrowdStrike Hosts: Elliot Volkman & Neal Dennis Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    32 min.

  3. 17-04-2025

    How Critical Infrastructure Leaders Are Rethinking Cybersecurity

    In this episode of Adopting Zero Trust, hosts Elliot Volkman and Neal Dennis discuss critical infrastructure security with expert guest Ian Branson, Vice President of Global Industrial Cybersecurity at Black and Veatch. The discussion centers around the philosophical and strategic approaches to handling incidents and breaches, especially in the operational technology (OT) realm. Branson highlights the importance of understanding what needs protection, the integration of IT and OT security, and the crucial role of threat intelligence. They also explore the evolving need for converging physical and digital security data to manage risks effectively.   01:37 Starting Point for Protecting Critical Infrastructure 04:52 Funding and Resource Allocation for Cybersecurity 10:57 Threat Intelligence and Incident Response 16:25 IT and OT Convergence 23:47 Discussing Employee and Equipment Management 26:19 Integrating Physical and Cyber Security 34:39 Proactive Security Measures in New Constructions 40:46 Balancing Rapid Response and Availability Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    45 min.

  4. 20-03-2025

    Shadows Within Shadows: How AI is Challenging IT Teams

    In this episode of Adoption Zero Trust (AZT), host Neal Dennis and producer Elliot Volkman sit down with Bradon Rogers, Chief Customer Officer at Island, to discuss how AI is compounding the already existing problems tied to shadow IT. The conversation explores how modern enterprises handle the growing complexities of unregulated software use, the role of enterprise browsers in mitigating risks, and the dynamic between user experience and cybersecurity. 01:16 Shadows within shadows 04:15 AI in Approved Solutions 09:14 Enterprise Browser and Security 14:25 Transition to Browser-Based Applications 16:23 Enterprise Browser Capabilities 18:45 Data Protection and Shadow IT 24:39 Shepherding Data in the Enterprise Browser 25:17 Policy Perspectives on AI and Data Flow 28:16 Exploring SBOM and AI Integration 35:39 Browser Security and Application Boundaries 41:40 BYOD and Privacy Concerns 44:48 Third-Party Scenarios and Onboarding Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    48 min.

  5. 06-03-2025

    Live at ZTW2025: Cyberwire Daily’s Dave Bittner + Dr. Zero Trust

    Catch this episode on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, or Amazon. You can read the show notes here. Live from ThreatLocker’s Zero Trust World (ZTW), cybersecurity heavyweights Dave Bittner, host of CyberWire Daily and Dr. Chase Cunningham AKA Dr. Zero Trust shared their unfiltered thoughts on the state of cybersecurity, AI, and government regulations. From the shifting landscape of compliance enforcement to the role of hitting critical mass of AI in both defense and cybercrime, we can expect an extraordinary level of change in the years ahead. 01:37 Cybersecurity Landscape Overview 01:58 Government and Cybersecurity 02:39 Leadership and Appointments in Cybersecurity 03:47 Future of CISA and Compliance 06:41 Managing Cybersecurity News 14:54 The Role of LLMs in Cybersecurity 16:22 Global Perspective on AI and LLMs 18:47 Reflecting on Past Technological Predictions 20:18 The Double-Edged Sword of AI and Surveillance 24:21 The Dark Side of Technological Advancements 26:17 Debating the Term 'AI' and Its Implications 28:43 Historical Anecdotes and Unanswered Questions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    33 min.

  6. 05-03-2025

    Rapid fire update: Silk Typhoon and DOJ's indictment of twelve Chinese nationals

    New intelligence: Silk Typhoon, formerly tracked as HAFNIUM, is a China-based threat actor most recently observed targeting IT supply chains in the US. Today, we released a new report in conjunction with the Department of Justice's action against twelve Chinese nationals that includes mercenary hackers, law enforcement officers, and employees of a private hacking company. This group has been charged in connection with global cyberespionage campaigns. Dive into our latest blog for all the details. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    3 min.

  7. 18-02-2025

    Predicting the year of cybersecurity ahead (minus regulations)

    It’s mid-February, but somehow, we’ve already been through what feels like a year's worth of change in the cybersecurity and regulation world. Beyond the standard incidents, outages, and attacks… there have been obvious impacts that have downstream effects. Regardless of regulatory changes, which we’ll cover as those impact our space, AZT brought together a few minds who have thoughts on the year ahead. To properly kick off season four, we have the privilege of chatting with two wonderful guests: Lawrence Pingree, VP of Technical Marketing at Dispersive, but you are more likely to know his name from his time at Gartner. However, he has a varied background ranging from CTO to security engineer, so don’t let that marketing line in his title fool you. Oliver Plante, VP of Support at ThreatLocker, has around 15-20 years of IT under his belt. He also has seen a thing or two when it comes to implementing new cybersecurity strategies   03:21 Predictions for the Year Ahead 04:06 Zero Trust and Least Privilege 05:40 The Future of Cyber Defense 07:21 AI and Cybersecurity 08:41 Threat Intelligence and Preemptive Defense 09:50 Challenges and Innovations in Cybersecurity 14:23 The Role of AI in Cyber Attacks 26:18 Quantum Computing: Threat or Savior? 29:31 Passwordless Security: The Future 30:57 Challenges of Deepfake Technology and Passwordless Security 33:03 Blockchain and Its Applications in Security 35:33 Debate on Password Management Practices 38:03 User Responsibility and Security Automation 47:50 Government's Role in Cybersecurity 57:14 Future of Cybersecurity and Zero Trust Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  8. 11-02-2025

    Kicking Off Season 4 of Adoption Zero Trust (AZT)

    Catch this episode on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, or Amazon. You can read the show notes here. Neal and I are excited to welcome you back to AZT as we kick off our fourth season. After four years of trying out different formats and episodes, including at least an entire season terrorizing vendors for slapping Zero Trust on their box as if it were something you could buy, we’re ready to narrow our focus a bit. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    23 min.
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Adopting Zero Trust offers an ongoing conversation that elevates cybersecurity conversations that encourages you to rethink how you build strategies, defend against threat actors, and implement new technology. We go beyond the millions in marketing budgets fueled by VCs, and chat with practitioners like you who want to make a difference (or hack the planet, which ever happens first). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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