Killer Conversation

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What’s it like to sit across from a killer and ask the questions no one else can? 48 Hours producer Judy Rybak sits down with correspondents Erin Moriarty and Peter Van Sant for revealing conversations about how the criminal mind works. Through behind-the-scenes stories and moments that never made it to air, Killer Conversation pulls back the curtain on what it’s really like to sit across from someone capable of murder and how that experience still haunts us years later.

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What’s it like to sit across from a killer and ask the questions no one else can? 48 Hours producer Judy Rybak sits down with correspondents Erin Moriarty and Peter Van Sant for revealing conversations about how the criminal mind works. Through behind-the-scenes stories and moments that never made it to air, Killer Conversation pulls back the curtain on what it’s really like to sit across from someone capable of murder and how that experience still haunts us years later.