Hangar DX Podcast

Ankit Jain

The Hangar DX podcast focuses on developer experience and learning how different companies solve developer productivity challenges at scale. www.aviator.co/podcast

  1. 18 jun

    Dark Factories, Cargo Cult AI, and Drunk Agents with Geoffrey Huntley

    "A software factory is essentially a CNC machine. Without training, many people are going to cut off their hands." In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Geoffrey Huntley, AI and software engineering practitioner, creator of Ralph Loop, and independent thinker on autonomous engineering, about: - Why most companies are cargo-culting AI adoption and skipping the foundational work - Designing architecture for agent maintainability and not human maintainability - Why the next programming language won't be designed for humans at all 00:00 Introduction 02:44 The Future of Software Development and Orchestrators08:48 Reskilling for the New Era of Engineering12:36 The Evolution of Engineering Organizations17:38 Software Factories and Verification Challenges21:34 Convergence of Programming Languages and Future Trends27:10 Innovations in Programming Languages28:29 The Role of Code Reviews in Modern Development33:07 Knowledge Sharing vs. Code Review39:05 Architectural Evolution and Decision Making43:26 Maintaining Code Quality with AI45:54 The Future of Programming Languages and Verification48:37 The Role of Language in Programming and Tech Debt51:41 AI's Impact on Tech Debt and Code Quality55:45 Understanding AI Slop vs. Tech Debt59:53 Automation and the Future of Code Management 📫 Sign up for our email list for more podcasts, articles, events, and other updates: https://www.aviator.co/podcast ✏️ Subscribe for more videos: @Aviator-Co 🙌 Join a curated community of senior engineers and engineering leaders focused on developer experience and solving productivity challenges at scale! Check out our upcoming off-the-record online sessions where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas and share hard-earned wisdom: https://dx.community/ Replace code reviews with verified intentAI writes code faster than humans can review it. Aviator Verify provides compliance-grade verification through spec-driven development. Ship faster with complete audit trails. https://verify.aviator.co/

    1 u 5 m
  2. 4 jun

    "We Don't Use AI to Produce Magic", Wayne Duso, 1Password

    In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Wayne Duso, VP of Platform and Infrastructure at 1Password, about: - How a security-first company approaches AI adoption without compromising on privacy and trust- Why the bottleneck has shifted from writing code to planning, architecture, and verification and what that means for how engineers work- How 1Password used agents to refactor a monolith in four hours after days of upfront spec work, and what that experiment revealed https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith 00:00 Wayne Duso's Background and Role at 1Password02:12 1Password's Engineering Structure and Focus03:15 AI Adoption Journey at 1Password07:53 AI Security Considerations for 1Password09:49 Evolution of Engineering Workflows with AI11:55 Shifting Bottlenecks in Software Development Life Cycle13:23 Refactoring Monolith with Agents18:08 AI as an Amplifier in Engineering Practices19:09 Navigating the Tools: A Pragmatic Approach22:03 Human Oversight in AI-Driven Development25:54 Collaboration Between Humans and Agents27:58 Managing Specifications for Evolving Systems30:24 The Review Process: Balancing Speed and Quality34:09 Adoption Rates and Developer Engagement38:29 Evolving Metrics: Measuring Impact and Productivity42:02 Future Initiatives: From JIRA to PR Automation 📫 Sign up to our email list for more podcasts, articles, events, and other updates: https://www.aviator.co/podcast ✏️ Subscribe for more videos: @Aviator-Co 🙌 Join a curated community of senior engineers and engineering leaders focused on developer experience and solving productivity challenges at scale! Check out our upcoming off-the-record online sessions where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas and share hard-earned wisdom: https://dx.community/ Replace code reviews with verified intentAI writes code faster than humans can review it. Aviator Verify provides compliance-grade verification through spec-driven development. Ship faster with complete audit trails. https://verify.aviator.co/

    38 min.
  3. 21 mei

    Ship to Production Without Code Review? with Jade Rubick

    "Engineering teams need to be thinking about how they can get out of verifying every line of code, because otherwise they're going to be completely buried in that and will absolutely be the bottleneck." In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Jade Rubick, engineering leadership advisor and coach, about:  - Why traditional engineering roles are blurring and teams are feeling the squeeze between rising expectations and unchanged role definitions- How the role of verification engineer could reshape the way teams build and ship software, and- the 3 predictions for software engineering in 2027 that Jade is willing to be wrong about 00:00 Introduction and Jade's Background02:44 Current Changes in Engineering Organization Structures05:18 Blurring Roles and Responsibilities in Tech Teams07:09 The Return of Coding for Engineering Leaders10:00 Ownership and Role Evolution in AI-Driven Engineering14:22 Automated Verification Engineers and Testing Pipelines20:09 Reducing Verification Bottlenecks with AI22:23 The Role and Responsibilities of Verification Engineers25:52 Measuring Engineering Productivity in the AI Era27:26 Predictions for AI and Engineering in 202730:33 The Impact of AI on Code Maintenance and Complexity31:47 Final Thoughts and Future Outlook 📫 Sign up to our email list for more podcasts, articles, events, and other updates: https://www.aviator.co/podcast ✏️ Subscribe for more videos: @Aviator-Co 🙌 Join a curated community of senior engineers and engineering leaders focused on developer experience and solving productivity challenges at scale! Check out our upcoming off-the-record online sessions where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas and share hard-earned wisdom: https://dx.community/ Replace code reviews with verified intentAI writes code faster than humans can review it. Aviator Verify provides compliance-grade verification through spec-driven development. Ship faster with complete audit trails. https://verify.aviator.co/

    32 min.
  4. 7 mei

    The Hidden Cost of AI-Generated Code: Cognitive Debt and Intent Debt

    "I define cognitive debt as being that understanding of what the system is doing and why, and who knows what across the team."  In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Dr. Margaret-Anne Storey, Professor of Computer Science and Canada Research Chair, about- Why AI is amplifying the problems of poor team understanding- How cognitive debt and intent debt are the hidden risks of building fast with AI, and - Why slowing down might be the most important engineering practice in the age of agents. 00:00 Introduction to Developer Experience and Margaret's Background02:11 Exploring the SPACE Framework vs. DORA06:55 Subjectivity in Measuring Developer Productivity12:15 Impact of AI on Developer Collaboration and Productivity16:54 Understanding Cognitive and Intent Debt22:42 Understanding Cognitive Debt in Software Development26:36 The Impact of Intent Debt on Development28:07 Measuring Cognitive and Intent Debt32:20 The Role of AI in Amplifying Challenges37:24 Balancing Speed and Understanding in Development 📫 Sign up to our email list for more podcasts, articles, events, and other updates: https://www.aviator.co/podcast ✏️ Subscribe for more videos: @Aviator-Co 🙌 Join a curated community of senior engineers and engineering leaders focused on developer experience and solving productivity challenges at scale! Check out our upcoming off-the-record online sessions where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas and share hard-earned wisdom: https://dx.community/

    40 min.
  5. 23 apr

    All In on Claude Code at 400-Engineer Scale with Brian Scanlan, Intercom

    "You assemble a senior engineer out of hundreds of these skills. Each one is a little building block. We take the time and sweat the details on making sure they are great and almost near perfect at what they do." In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Brian Scanlan, Senior Principal Engineer at Intercom, about how Intercom set a goal of doubling engineering throughput with AI, why low-quality skills are worse than no skills at all, and how a platform team of eight is enabling 400 engineers to make all technical work agent-first. 00:00 Developer Experience and AI03:01 Intercom's Engineering Team and AI Integration05:49 Building a Skills Framework for Developer Productivity08:55 Data-Driven Insights and Skill Improvement12:05 Quality Control in Skills Development14:40 Managing Context and Skill Overlap18:00 Self-Improving Skills and Knowledge Systems20:53 Ownership and Maintenance of Skills23:43 Encouraging Adoption of AI Tools26:52 Building Trust for Production Access29:50 Business Continuity and Multi-Provider Strategies Brian's blog post: https://ideas.fin.ai/p/how-we-use-claude-code-today-at-intercom 📫 Sign up to our email list for more podcasts, articles, events, and other updates: https://www.aviator.co/podcast ✏️ Subscribe for more videos: @Aviator-Co 🙌 Join a curated community of senior engineers and engineering leaders focused on developer experience and solving productivity challenges at scale! Check out our upcoming off-the-record online sessions where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas and share hard-earned wisdom: https://dx.community/

    43 min.
  6. 9 apr

    Are You Using AI to Go Faster in the Wrong Direction? | Steve Pereira on Flow and Engineering

    "We can be in a flow state running in the wrong direction. Unless you can tie all your actions back to your strategic imperative, you might look back in five years and think: That was fun, but could I have gotten further?" In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Steve Pereira, lead consultant at Visible Value Stream Consulting and co-founder of the Flow Collective, to discuss where AI is genuinely moving the needle versus just generating more code to review, how to think about context switching and flow state when AI makes task-switching cheaper than ever, and how teams can use value stream mapping as a framework for getting AI adoption right. 00:00 Introduction to Developer Experience and Value Stream Mapping05:20 Understanding Value Stream Mapping in Practice08:09 The Impact of AI on Value Stream Flow17:06 Context Switching and Flow State in Software Development27:48 Intentionality in Context Switching and Flow State35:07 Value Stream Mapping as a Superpower for AI Success 📫 Sign up to our email list for more podcasts, articles, events, and other updates: https://www.aviator.co/podcast ✏️ Subscribe for more videos: @Aviator-Co 🙌 Join a curated community of senior engineers and engineering leaders focused on developer experience and solving productivity challenges at scale! Check out our upcoming off-the-record online sessions where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas and share hard-earned wisdom: https://dx.community/

    36 min.
  7. 26 mrt

    How Honeycomb Is 2Xing Its Engineers with AI

    “Our internal target is to 2X our impact with AI over one year. Unlike some more outlandish mandates, that one is both aspirational and achievable,” says Emily Nakashima, SVP of Engineering at Honeycomb. In this episode of The Hangar DX podcast, Emily shares how Honeycomb approached AI adoption at scale and why they try not to focus on metrics that can be gamed but rely more on self-reporting by developers. Emily also discusses:- Why flattening org charts is a short-term optimization that will cost companies later- How Honeycomb issued a company-wide 2X mandate and what actually happened when they did- Why the "buffet phase" of AI tool adoption is over and what a structured rollout looks like- Why self-reporting beats hard metrics when measuring AI's impact on your team- Why observability is more critical than ever in a world of non-deterministic AI-generated code- Why AI SRE tools demo well but often fall short, and what they need to actually work 00:00 Introduction to Developer Experience and AI02:19 Emily's Journey in Engineering and Leadership05:15 Navigating Career Growth in Engineering06:28 Cultural Shifts in Engineering Management09:50 The Evolving Role of Engineering Managers12:59 Upskilling in the Age of AI17:50 AI Strategy and Product Development at Honeycomb21:38 Measuring AI Impact and Productivity28:09 The Future of Observability and AI in Engineering About Emily NakashimaEmily serves as SVP of Engineering at Honeycomb. A former manager and engineering leader at multiple developer tools companies, including Bugsnag and GitHub, Emily is passionate about building best-in-class, consumer-quality tools for engineers. She has a background in product engineering, performance optimization, client-side monitoring, and design.About Hangar DX (dx.community)The Hangar is a community of senior DevOps and senior software engineers focused on developer experience. This is a space where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas, share hard-earned wisdom, troubleshoot issues, and ultimately help each other in their projects and careers.

    32 min.

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The Hangar DX podcast focuses on developer experience and learning how different companies solve developer productivity challenges at scale. www.aviator.co/podcast

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