Talking till Dawn Michael Whitehouse & Martin Yates

On October 31st, 1969, two high school students, Patricia Spencer and Pamela Hobley vanished without a trace from Oscoda, Michigan. In this episode of Talking till Dawn, we investigate their disappearance and hope that someone out there knows the truth.
If you know anything that can help find Patricia and Pamela, please contact the Oscoda police department: https://www.oscodatownshipmi.gov/government_departments/police_department.php
We do our best to handle such topics delicately and with respect to the victims, but should anything discussed badly affect your emotional well being, please talk to someone, or call one of the following numbers:
Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123
Distress & Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255 
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SOURCES:
https://charleyproject.org/case/patricia-ann-spencer
https://charleyproject.org/case/pamela-sue-hobley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Patricia_Spencer_and_Pamela_Hobley
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/mi-harold-covey-20-oscoda-23-dec-1976.619500/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Dawn_Magyar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Henry_Abbott
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/mi-patricia-spencer-16-pamela-hobley-15-oscoda-31-oct-1969.146971/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/halloween-mystery-where-are-girls-who-vanished-from-oscoda-michigan-45-years-ago/
https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1673dmmi.html
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/mi-patricia-spencer-16-pamela-hobley-15-oscoda-31-oct-1969.146971/page-11#post-17891836
https://unexplainedrealms.medium.com/pamela-hobley-and-patricia-spencer-had-a-few-things-in-common-they-attended-the-same-school-were-a6ef91367961
https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/KAPN/date/1969-10-31
https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=4394
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_County_Child_Killer
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/oh-eileen-adams-14-toledo-18-dec-1967.45553/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/arthur-ream-case-cops-are-digging-up-this-child-killers-burial-ground-again
https://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/williams-leslie-allen.htm
https://fornology.blogspot.com/2014/07/john-norman-collins-associate-andrew.html
https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/MP14993
https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/57344
https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/article/was-the-vietnam-war-responsible-for-creating-a-generation-of-serial-killers
https://fornology.blogspot.com/2014/07/john-norman-collins-associate-andrew.html
https://www.grunge.com/1128603/the-night-stalker-richard-ramirezs-violent-cousin-miguel-may-have-inspired-his-crimes/
https://expendableforacause.net/2023/03/09/something-was-terribly-wrong-with-miguel/
 

In the late 1500s, a huge man-eating wolf was attacking and devouring the people of Bedburg, Bavaria. It stalked the forests, fields, and even the darkened streets of the surrounding areas. No one was safe from its blood-thirst. Fear and rumours spread throughout the land, until finally that dreaded word was whispered from neighbour to neighbour. A word that would explain how the beast could so easily appear and disappear at will: 'Werewolf'.
In this episode of Talking till Dawn, we investigate the events surrounding this alleged werewolf, pouring over old manuscripts and records to uncover the truth behind this terrifying case and the man who was accused of being a real werewolf: Peter Stump. 
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This episode contains discussion of topics, including torture, murder, infanticide, and cannabilism which some listeners may find distressing.
We do our best to handle such topics delicately and with respect to the victims, but should anything discussed badly affect your emotional well being, please talk to someone, or call one of the following numbers:
Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123
Distress & Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255



 
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Source links
 
https://vamzzz.com/blog/peter-stumpp-werewolf-or-political-scapegoat/
https://danarehn.com/2022/05/04/werewolf-petter-stump/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirov_wolf_attacks
https://sites.pitt.edu/~dash/werewolf.html#stubbe%22
https://omeka.cloud.unimelb.edu.au/execution-ballads/items/show/1150
https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/1027231
"A True Discourse. Declaring the Damnable Life and Death of One Stubbe Peeter, a Most Wicked Sorcerer." London, 1590. (original English version)
Several articles from Newspapers.com.
 
 

January 5, 1935: A young man travelling under an assumed name is found mortally wounded in a room at the President Hotel in Kansas City. His identity and the bizarre circumstances of his death spark a mystery that will puzzle investigators to this day.
This episode contains discussion of topics, including suicide and self-harm, which some listeners may find distressing
Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123
Distress & Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255




 
Support Talking Till Dawn: patreon.com/talkingtilldawn
Website: talkingtilldawn.com
Twitter: @TalkingTill
Email: talkingtilldawn@gmail.com
 
Source links
 
https://kansascitymag.com/news/longform/the-owen-case/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Artemus_Ogletree

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/167645421

https://web.archive.org/web/20120321030654/https://www.kclibrary.org/blog/kc-unbound/mystery-room-1046-pt-1-roland-t-owen

https://www.al.com/news/erry-2018/09/56ecbe55ac9479/the-mystery-of-what-was-in-the.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_%27American_Beauty%27

Birmingham, England - 18th April 1985: 17-year-old Marion Terry responds to a job listing, and within hours she is found dead under bizarre circumstances in the home of amateur filmmaker Geoffrey Jones. The tragedy would trigger a minor media frenzy, plumb the depths of one man's macabre obsessions, and fuel even darker rumours of snuff rings and murder-for-media...
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This episode contains discussion of topics which some listeners may find distressing.
Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123
Distress & Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255

Croglin, northwest England: A legend looms over this remote Cumbrian village. A harrowing tale of desecrated tombs, sinister intruders, and bloodsucking terror. 
One of a very few examples of the vampire in pre-20th Century English folklore, the "Cumberland Phenomenon" is usually presented as a true event... but how much truth does it actually hold? Diving deep into the history and literature of the case, Mike and Martin aim to find out.
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This episode contains discussion of topics which some listeners may find distressing.
Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123
Distress &  Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255

 

 


 

 

 



 

We conclude our exploration of the infamous Paisley Witch case of the late 17th Century, examining the horrific details of the trial and subsequent executions, as well as the cultural -- and some say supernatural -- aftershocks that resonate to this day.
Support Talking till Dawn: patreon.com/talkingtilldawn
Website: talkingtilldawn.com
Twitter: @TalkingTill
Email: talkingtilldawn@gmail.com
This episode contains discussion of topics which some listeners may find distressing.
Samaritans support network (UK): 116 123  
Distress &  Lifeline (USA): 1800 273 8255