The Regeneration Lab

Bas van den Berg

Welcome to The Regeneration Lab. The podcast of the Regenerative Thinking research group at the the Mission Zero centre of expertise at The Hague University of Applied Sciences, where we conduct integrated research to come up with regenerative solutions for a more sustainable future. Each episode features a leading educator, activist, professor, or researcher who is already engaging in more regenerative forms of higher education. Join us on this journey as we discover how these educational innovations emerged, how they are practiced, and the beautiful futures that are envisioned for more regenerative higher education. Along the way we will explore the systemic and personal challenges, barriers and opportunities that our awesome guests are facing to do this. You can reach out through mission-zero@hhs.nl to respond or connect to any of the episodes! 

  1. Can Unlearning Be the First Step to Regeneration? A Conversation with Ilona Klama

    2 DGN GELEDEN

    Can Unlearning Be the First Step to Regeneration? A Conversation with Ilona Klama

    "It is important not to jump straight into solutions but staying in the uncomfortable, not knowing, having to listen, understanding better, do it all over again - staying in the zone of discomfort," Ilona explains. As the guardian of winds who supports students to find their way of flying, Ilona understands that transformation requires unlearning before relearning - and unlearning means frustration, confusion, and irritation. Rather than protecting students from these feelings, Ilona creates spaces where they work together for entire days, going through the frustration in the room together. Having gone through her own studies feeling like something was missing - especially in business administration where "there was only one way of looking at things" - Ilona now emphasizes that innovation starts at the individual level, not just at the entrepreneurial society level. She's developed regenerative business model canvases that include stakeholders who don't benefit from the system, and she uses life-centered design thinking approaches that go beyond human users. For Ilona, regeneration is fundamentally "a way of thinking that leads to new ways of doing," and that thinking requires the courage to stay with not-knowing while discovering potential together with everyone in the room through deep listening. Key themes: Staying with discomfort, unlearning and relearning, listening as tool, life-centered design, including marginalized stakeholders, regeneration as thinking, individual transformation

    1 u 1 m
  2. How Do We Shift From Extraction to Contribution? A Conversation with Rob Lubberink

    7 MEI

    How Do We Shift From Extraction to Contribution? A Conversation with Rob Lubberink

    Rob's research in Malawi on material arrangements and entrepreneurial behavior led to a profound insight: it's not just entrepreneurs who have agency—the everyday materials and systems around us shape what's possible. Using the metaphor of a football coach with a new team every year, Rob describes the challenge of creating learning experiences where students understand systems thinking, recognize their multiple roles in society, and most importantly, shift from asking "what's in it for me?" to "what am I contributing?" This episode explores how Rob uses the Doughnut Economics model, biomimicry sensory experiences, and work with practice partners to help students see that regeneration isn't just about agriculture—it's about fundamentally changing our relationship with all actants, human and non-human alike. Key themes: Distributed agency, systems thinking, material arrangements, Doughnut Economics, shifting from extraction to contribution

    1 u 1 m
  3. How Do We Move From Profit-First to Values-First? A Conversation with Bruno Delepierre

    30 APR

    How Do We Move From Profit-First to Values-First? A Conversation with Bruno Delepierre

    Bruno's metaphor of the chef supporting apprentices to find their unique expression captures his belief that education is fundamentally about connection and craft. But what makes Bruno's approach distinctive is his willingness to be vulnerable. "An educator wins a lot if he is able to be vulnerable towards students, so they see there's a human being in front of them," he shares. Having moved from Silicon Valley-style entrepreneurship—where the social-ecological dimension wasn't even on his radar—to regenerative education, Bruno emphasizes that courage doesn't mean the absence of fear. "We can be fearful and courageous at the same time." In this episode, we explore how personal loss transformed what Bruno sees as important beyond business, why he believes embodied learning and play matter, and how his regenerative business model canvas injects regeneration into tools that were originally designed for extraction. Key themes: Vulnerability as practice, courage and fear, personal transformation, embodied learning, regenerative tools

    52 min.
  4. What If We Started With Potential, Not Problems? A Conversation with Charles van de Kerkhof

    23 APR

    What If We Started With Potential, Not Problems? A Conversation with Charles van de Kerkhof

    Charles uses the metaphor of animal tracking—where many different paths lead to the same animal, and complexity increases the more you zoom out—to describe the intricate work of regenerative entrepreneurship education. Inspired by witnessing value-based entrepreneurship in Africa, where money wasn't the first priority, Charles challenges the mechanistic worldview dominant in the West and instead emphasizes living systems thinking and interconnectedness. "Regeneration is about finding your potential after unpacking the complexity of entrepreneurship and understanding the world's problems," Charles explains. In this episode, we explore why regeneration means going outside, why having the same vocabulary is essential before we can move forward together, and why Charles believes that entrepreneurship—with an entrepreneurial, critical, and regenerative mindset—is the tool to put a paradigm shift into action. Change means taking risks, being curious, and staying uncomfortable. Key themes: Living systems thinking, complexity, ecological literacy, going outside, paradigm shift, value-based work

    1 uur
  5. How Do We Weave Academic Networks of Care? A Conversation with Sergia Lage Arias

    16 APR

    How Do We Weave Academic Networks of Care? A Conversation with Sergia Lage Arias

    While mainstream entrepreneurship is about acceleration, innovation, and speed, Sergia offers a radically different metaphor: compost—slow, natural growth through decomposition and regeneration. Growing up connected to the land and sea in Galicia, Sergia brings a deeply place-based perspective to education, emphasizing that we must be "in, for, and of" our local contexts. Through nature walks, eco-social sewing (a form of community communication), and visits to local businesses that don't appear in textbooks, Sergia creates spaces for students to understand entrepreneurship beyond startup culture—as stewardship. But this work is hard, and Sergia doesn't shy away from naming educator burnout and the need for institutional bravery. "We should be weaving academic networks that really start from caring for others and being aware that you are not alone," Sergia reminds us, calling for courage, community, and the patience to let regeneration unfold at nature's pace. Key themes: Slow growth, place-based learning, eco-social methods, stewardship, educator networks, institutional courage

    1 u 3 m

  6. 9 APR

    What if we viewed uncertainty as possibility? A Conversation with Yvette Baggen

    "We don't start-up businesses, we start-up people," Yvette declares, capturing her fundamental reframing of entrepreneurship education. For her, uncertainty isn't something to fear—it's a source of hope and inspiration. Yvette's teaching is centered on helping students learn to embrace and navigate uncertainty, understanding that collaboration and diverse teams are essential for addressing the complexity of sustainability and regeneration. She emphasizes that students need to take ownership of their own learning journey, working on real-world assignments based on effectuation principles—focusing on what they can control. In this conversation, Yvette explores why she finds more meaning in students' reflections than their final products, and how she's rethinking assessment and grading to better serve regenerative education. Key themes: Starting-up people, uncertainty as hope, student ownership, effectuation, team collaboration, assessment innovation

    58 min.
  7. What If the Classroom Was a Relational Field? - A Conversation with Catherine Brentnall

    2 APR

    What If the Classroom Was a Relational Field? - A Conversation with Catherine Brentnall

    Catherine doesn't see the classroom as a space for delivering content - she sees it as a relational field where she's deeply interested in what's happening between people. Driven by a strong sense of justice and what she describes as an "obsession with inequality and unsustainability," Catherine's teaching journey took a decisive turn in 2021 when the IPCC's "Code Red for Humanity" report made continuing with business-as-usual education not just difficult, but impossible. In this episode, Catherine shares how she practices compassionate pedagogy - drawing from an interest in uncompetitive, cooperative learning interactions - and why she invests so much energy in learning students' names and understanding their realities. From exploring democratic ownership structures like steward ownership and cooperatives to insisting that we constantly question our assumptions, Catherine demonstrates what it means to build education on relationships, critical thinking, and hope in the face of climate breakdown. Key themes: Relational pedagogy, compassionate teaching, justice orientation, questioning assumptions, democratic ownership

    1 uur
  8. What If We Designed Futures We Can't Yet Imagine? - A Conversation with Sebastian Planck

    26 MRT

    What If We Designed Futures We Can't Yet Imagine? - A Conversation with Sebastian Planck

    Sebastian opens with a bold pedagogical move: meditation on the floor, shoes off, in the middle of an entrepreneurship class. As someone who deliberately challenges himself to push students out of their comfort zones -even when it makes him feel insecure - Sebastian believes that discomfort, resistance, and friction are not problems to be solved but energy to be harnessed. Using the kite runner metaphor, Sebastian describes entrepreneurship as learning to work with winds you cannot predict or control. This episode takes us through speculative design workshops, uncomfortable embodied exercises, and mountain retreats where Sebastian creates what he calls "comfortable uncertainty" - a space where students feel seen as humans while simultaneously being stretched beyond their limits. Key themes: Productive discomfort, embodied learning, speculative design, working with uncertainty, self-challenging

    43 min.
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Welcome to The Regeneration Lab. The podcast of the Regenerative Thinking research group at the the Mission Zero centre of expertise at The Hague University of Applied Sciences, where we conduct integrated research to come up with regenerative solutions for a more sustainable future. Each episode features a leading educator, activist, professor, or researcher who is already engaging in more regenerative forms of higher education. Join us on this journey as we discover how these educational innovations emerged, how they are practiced, and the beautiful futures that are envisioned for more regenerative higher education. Along the way we will explore the systemic and personal challenges, barriers and opportunities that our awesome guests are facing to do this. You can reach out through mission-zero@hhs.nl to respond or connect to any of the episodes! 

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    Bas van den Berg
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    2021 - 2026
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