Two Off The Tee

Jeff Shin

Brothers Jeff and James Shin — proudly high-handicap Chicago golfers with long-time careers in real estate and lending — break down their world of golf: gear, matches, league drama, course stories, and the grind of getting better. It’s rivalry, personality, and unfiltered golf talk from two guys who compete on and off the course. If you’re into golf, banter, and the real amateur grind, this is your show.

  1. 58 min. geleden

    Every Golfer Knows Exactly What They're Doing Out There

    James thinks Bryson stepped down that rough on purpose and that every golfer watching knows exactly what happened. Jeff thinks one camera angle isn't the whole story, and that the rule is so subjective you can't hang a guy on it. They go at it for six minutes — Patrick Reed's bunker, the fescue at the Internet Invitational, whether a subconscious step even counts as cheating — and neither one gives an inch. Then it stops being about the pros. Jeff admits on the mic that he's watched James's ball move when he settles his club in the rough, and that he's never once called the penalty. Not because he didn't see it. Because he decided the argument wasn't worth what it would cost. Which is the setup for the story we didn't expect to tell this week: after our major at McCrae, somebody in the league quietly reached out to Jeff about a drop he took on the first hole. Nobody saw it. Nobody would ever have known. He was ready to disqualify himself over it. We're keeping his name out of this, but that's the guy the whole game is supposed to be built on — and it exposed something we need to fix, because none of us actually know where the stakes are on that hole. The rest of the major is its own movie. The Discord melted down the night before over one message about which tees people were playing. James and Matt trade the lead all afternoon on greens that roll like glass. James triples 16 and tells Matt his name's going on the trophy. Then he putts through a divot somebody left three feet from the cup on 17 — "no pebble or stone is gonna take my glory" — and stands on 18 with 65 yards in and forty people on the balcony, an inch away from a walk-off eagle. Sixth McCrae title in ten years. Plus: Charlie Woods gets camera-clicked mid-swing at the U.S. Junior Amateur and the internet decides golfers are soft, Ryan Fox pulls the trigger in seven seconds while Cantlay takes forty-five (and Jeff makes an annoying case that slow might be correct), the season finale at Randall Oaks on August 2 with the cut line, the bye and a bounty on Tom all still alive, and the permits are officially filed for Simmies Golf in Carol Stream. Would you have called the penalty on your own brother? And be honest — would you have turned yourself in? Let us know. Two Off the Tee — two Korean American brothers arguing about golf every week. New here? Follow the show so you don't miss the Randall Oaks finale.

  2. 20 jul

    Anthony Kim Got Robbed + Simmies Golf Is Real

    Jeff dropped a comment telling Anthony Kim he should've won Comeback Player of the Year at the ESPYs — and Kim actually saw it. That sets off the argument that opens the episode: is a 12-years-gone, fought-through-addiction return a bigger comeback than an NFL star bouncing back from an Achilles tear? Jeff says it's not close. James thinks it's a great story that maybe doesn't belong on an award-show stage. Then the news we've been sitting on for months: we signed the lease for Simmies Golf. After 10 weeks of commercial negotiations that felt like buying a car in slow motion, we've got the keys to a 6-bay, 24/7 indoor simulator in Carol Stream — phone-unlock the bay, hit range balls or play 18 in the AC, get all your data, and actually afford it. Permits are going in and we're aiming to open in September. Podcast, league, and now the sim — the whole thing comes full circle. From there: the Path to Par rolls into McCrae for the second major, where the greens are basically glass and five-putts are a real threat. We break down the tight cut-line and bye-week race, why nobody wants to end up at Seven Bridges, and why you should never, ever call a 3-foot putt a gimme. Plus Jeff drafts Cowboy into his major group on purpose (and threatens to bring a stopwatch to time everybody's ball hunts), and the haters series keeps growing — if you're a non-scratch golfer in Chicago who hates Jeff's takes, consider this your invite. Tell us: which comeback was better — Anthony Kim or the NFL star? And what would make you drive to a 24/7 golf sim? We read the comments. Two Off the Tee — two Korean American brothers arguing about golf every week. If you're new, follow the show so you don't miss the McCrae major recap.

  3. 13 jul

    A Villain Is Born — Golf Haters, League Cheaters & YouTube Golf vs the PGA | EP35

    Jeff spent last week telling amateurs they don't need a rangefinder. This week the internet came for him — and a villain was born. Now he's ready to fight every hater in his comments, and James is gleefully pouring gasoline on it. From there we get into the stuff every weekend golfer actually argues about: is YouTube golf really more popular than the PGA Tour now? Was that "plus-3.5" who got smoked by hole 14 ever a plus-3.5? Should you be allowed to blast music from your cart — or does the whole course have to hear your playlist? (Jeff's answer: wear some earbuds.) Then it gets personal and a little dark inside our own league. With the cut line tight and a major next week, we rolled out a new anti-cheating rule — mark your playing partner's ball, call "sus," and it's minus 1,000 points if you're caught. Jeff tells the story of the guy who somehow switched golf balls on hole 10, and we get honest about the thought that crosses every golfer's mind when there's money on the line and nobody's watching. Plus: Jeff's "boring golf actually works" redemption arc (an 82, a hole-in-one, and a lot of laying up), Brother vs Brother Game 3 locked for Arrowhead with Jeff down 0-2, the 2v2 against Cowboy & Wick finally getting scheduled, and Path to Par heading to Mount Prospect for the first time in league history. Two brothers from Chicago, real opinions, no filter. If you play this game, you'll recognize every argument in here. Follow the show so you never miss an episode, and if you've got a take on how a league should break a tie for first — or you think you can beat Jeff on the course — we read everything

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Brothers Jeff and James Shin — proudly high-handicap Chicago golfers with long-time careers in real estate and lending — break down their world of golf: gear, matches, league drama, course stories, and the grind of getting better. It’s rivalry, personality, and unfiltered golf talk from two guys who compete on and off the course. If you’re into golf, banter, and the real amateur grind, this is your show.