You Might Know Her From Anne Rodeman & Damian Bellino

Back for an extra-special, extra pride episode. You can listen to this complete Eva Le Gallienne deep dive with author and actor Barrie Kreinik on the You Might Know Her From Patreon. You’re gonna love this dig into backstage lore and OG celesbian gossip as we explore the oeuvre of American theatre icon Eva Le Gallienne. Here to break it down with us is Barrie Kreinik, whose new audio drama, The Queen of Fourteenth Street, digs into Le G’s robust stage credits, her dedication to creating an artistic institution of and for the people (the Civic Repertory Theatre), and her storied relationships with many an actor and socialite.
We originally discovered Le Gallienne when interviewing Kate Burton, who appeared in Le G’s ‘80s revival of Alice in Wonderland. We are so grateful for connecting with Barrie so we could explore American theatrical history through the lens of this queer trailblazer.
Happy Pride from an OG theatre queer. We love YOU and we love Le G!
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Discussed this episode:
RIP Donald Sutherland
Kiefer Sutherland Christmas tree
Anne’s list of men: Gene Hackman, Dabney Coleman, Donald Sutherland, Tommy Lee Jones, John Travolta
Damian’s list of men: John Travolta, Adrian Zmed, Christopher McDonald
Jean Smart is so good in The Brady Bunch Movie
Guest: Barrie Kreinik (barriekreinik.com)
Eva Le Gallienne was the queer theatre legend you’ve never heard of
Barrie Kreinik wrote and starred in the audio drama about Le G called The Queen of Fourteenth Street
We learned about LeG from our Kate Burton interview
“Lavender marriage”
Helen Sheehy biography on Le G
Carole Shelley originated Madame Morrible was in national tour of The Royal Family with Le G 
Le G’s autobiography, At Thirty Three
Studs Terkel interview with Le G
1947 Alice in Wonderland (Le G narrates and is The White Queen)
1983 Alice in Wonderland (directed by Le G w/ Kate Burton as Alice)
Anne Kaufman Schneider (daughter of George S. Kaufman who wrote The Royal Family) was keeper of Le G’s legacy and also had an affair with her despite being 25 years younger than Eva
Other relationships over the years:
Margaret Mauer (actress)
Mary Duggett Benson aka “Mimsie” 
Alla Nazimova (termed the phrase, “Sewing Circle”)
Mercedes de Acosta (Barrie described her as “a succubus”)
Basil Rathbone
Gladys Calthrop
Josephine Hutchinson (married to men before and after Le G; was Eva’s Alice in Alice in Wonderland and her Wendy in Peter Pan)
Marion Gunnar Evanson Westlake (Scandinavian-American actress)
Margaret “Peggy” Webster (dubbed her Le G, never lived with her. Marion lived in Weston even when Peggy visited). Lived with Pamela Frankau for rest of life. 
Anne Kaufman Schneider
Performing Arts Library has 1975 video with Le G and Josephine Hutchinson and Staats Cotsworth
“Shadow” meant lesbian 
We can’t substantiate these lovers: Tallulah Bankhead, Beatrice Lily, Laurette Taylor
Eva’s father Richard La Gallienne allegedly had an affair with Oscar Wilde
Gwen La Gallienne was step-daughter of Richard (with his 3rd wife) and had an affair with Louise Bryant, journalist and feminist
Sexual Psychologists: Richard von Krafft-Ebing
Hays Code
Only torchbearers for Le G’s Civic Rep was the regional theatre movement (1950s-1970s)
The Stage Act (3 Democratic senators RI, PA, and VT) meant to revitalize non-profit theatre ($1B annually invested in theatres for payroll, expenses, etc)
Claire Foy could play Le G
1960 Mary Martin Peter Pan

I wasn’t in Speed! It’s Pride and we’re proud to be here with Veronica Cartwright. You Might Know Her From Alien, The Witches of Eastwick, The Birds, The Children's Hour, Will & Grace, The Right Stuff, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Inserts, and The X-Files. Veronica talked to us about her proper role in the queer canon byway of the Scissor Sisters, Jerry Herman, and StraightJacket; the trans retcon via James Cameron of Lambert in Alien; and her performance in the old Hollywood lesbian film The Children’s House opposite Audrey Hepburn and Shirley MacLaine. And that’s just the beginning! We also got to dig into her iconic roles on The X-Files as an abductee in one of the scariest arcs of all time, her rubber-faced scene-stealing scenes in The Witches of Eastwick,  working with Alfred Hitchock...multiple times, and her criminally underseen performance in Inserts. What a goddamn treat. And no, she wasn’t in Speed. Happy Pride, queerdos, we love you! 

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Discussed this episode:
Liza Minnelli documentary out at Tribeca Film Festival:  LIZA: A Truly Terrific Absolutely True Story
A House Is Not a Disco, Fire Island documentary
Andrea McArdle’s daughter is Alexis Kalehoff
Find our special episode with Barrie Kreinik who wrote a plays, The Queen of 14th Street about Eva Le Gallienne
Mary Pickford was NOT in the relationship with William Randolph Hearst. That was Marion Davies. 
The Cat’s Meow was about Marion Davies
Peg “something” Entwisle who killed herself on the Hollywood sign
Damian wouldn’t have made it to the talkies. Anne would have been a Mary Wickes type. Or a Marjorie Main, who was in a relationship with Spring Byington
Veronica Cartwright is in too many iconic films to name but we will: The Birds, The Children's Hour, Alien, The Witches of Eastwick
Stole scenes from Cher, Michelle Pfeifer and Susan Sarandon in The Witches of Eastwick: CHERRY SCENE
Character in Alien is apparently NOT “canonically queer” 
Got the buzz cut because Sigourney wouldn’t 
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978, dir: Philip Kauffman) is SO good please go watch 
Donald Sutherland finally got a perm instead of curlers 
Is so good in Inserts opposite Richard Dreyfuss
Goin’ South with Jack Nicholson
Appeared on ER, Six Feet Under, Nip/Tuck
Hitchcock Presents
The Twilight Zone
Colleen Dewhurst auditioned for The Witches of Eastwick role that eventually went to Veronica
Sang opera in Man Trouble with Ellen Barkin 
Cassandra Spencer in The X-Files
Emmy nominated for The X-Files and ER
Won Emmy at 15 for Tell me Not in Mournful Numbers
Who Has Seen the Wind about refugees 
Sings “Hello Dolly” in Scary Movie 2
The Scissor Sisters album cover 
Is NOT in Speed despite listed as Bag Lag Uncredited in Speed
Is only voiceover for a radio scene on In the Bedroom
Gotta watch Clipped with the “silly rabbit” Cleopatra Coleman and Jacki Weaver
Who will we cast as a sister opposite the play we need: Harriet Sansom Harris and Veanne Cox and is it Marcia Cross
Judith Ivey is STILL ALIVE I’m sorry
Birthday Candles with Debra Messing a life highlight
 

Bang bang! We are here this month with Julia Duffy. You Might Know Her From Palm Royale; Designing Women; Newhart; Looking; Baby Talk; The Mommie; Intolerable Cruelty; and Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker. We got to chat with Julia about her incredible arc as Mary Meredith Davidsoul on Apple TV’s starry Palm Royale. That finale twist, huh? She also gave us the scoop on playing Patrick’s mom on Looking (and the importance of playing mom to a queer person), her iconic run on Newhart (7 Emmy nominations!), and her ‘90s run as “Julia Duffy, sitcom saver” including joining the powerhouse female ensemble of Designing Women. We also got to chat about Julia’s book Bad Auditions, who was in those rooms with her, and what it was like playing a high school student at 30. Truly a treat! 
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Discussed this episode:
Lesbians and gay men agree on character actresses of a certain age (middle aged)
Anne’s women centric movies from childhood: A League of Their Own, Fried Green Tomatoes, Set it Off, Steel Magnolias, 9 to 5, Thelma and Louise
Damian’s women centric tv/movies: The 5 Mrs Buchanans, Hocus Pocus, Designing Women
Hang Time (character was Julie, actress is Daniella Deutscher who is MARRIED TO JAY HERNANDEZ)
Damian met David Chokachi and Gena Lee Nolin at the mall 
Unicorns are people interested in being with married couples
A League of Their Own is for EVERYONE (David Strathairn is for gays and lesbians)
Damian told me not to Google Peter (not Paul) from Peter, Paul and Mary but I had to 
RIP Dabney Coleman
Palm Royale was a wild ride
Linda Purl was an ingénue that Julia was always up against 
Wrote book called Bad Auditions
Run and watch Butcher Baker Nightmare Maker aka Night Warning with Julia opposite the incredible Susan Tyrell
Got the role of Stephanie on Newhart the same day she found out her show Wizards and Warriors was canceled
Baby Talk
Designing Women
The Mommies
Brett Butler was struggling on season 5 of Grace Under Fire
Jason Alexander sitcom with Peter Scolari and Wendy Makkena: Listen Up
TV movie with Wendy Makkena: Fair Market Value
Played Jonathan Geoff’s mom on HBO’s Looking
Appeared on S2 finale of new Night Court
Did The Little Foxes with Kelly McGillis
Was Mother Superior on 5 eps of Passions
Appeared on multiple child show sets like Suite Life of Zack and Cody, Wizards of Waverly Place, Drake & Josh, True Jackson VP
Brandished a shotgun in Shameless 
Went toe to toe with Lea Michele and Emma Roberts in Scream Queens
Did a bit on Sabrina the Teenage Witch where she appears on The Jerry Springer Show
Her drag was better than Dinah’s in The Cover Girl and the Cop (see Julia in drag @ 1:10:50)
Sofia Vergara and Reese Witherspoon movie: Hot Pursuit
Sofia as Griselda Blanco
Gene Hackman: 93 and at a gas station 
Olivia de Havilland died in 2020
Mitzy Gaynor (92) and Tippi Hedren (94) are still alive but don’t do interviews
Garbo left Hollywood at 36, never to return
Bette Davis in Wicked Stepmother months before she died
93 year old Clint Eastwood
 

This month we’re just wild about Siobhan Fallon Hogan. You Might Know Her From Men In Black, Forrest Gump, Dancer in the Dark, Dogville, The House That Jack Built, Shelter in Solitude, Rushed, Holes, Seinfeld, and Saturday Night Live. 
Siobhan gave us all the goods: from iconic dialect work in your favorite movies to her years-long collaborations with Lars von Trier. Siobhan spilled on doing bits while performing in Shakespeare in the Park, having fart competitions with Ben Gazzara on the set of Dogville, and getting horrifically killed by Matt Dillon in The House That Jack Built. We also got to talk about her turn as a screenwriter of two indie films: Rushed and Shelter in Solitude (both avail to stream now), and how her Catholic values inform all her work. A true delight from start to finish! Just feel better knowing that Lauren Bacall once asked, “Will we ever work again?” and know you are not alone! Love you mean it! 
Also, please note we recorded this before we both texted each other “O.J. Simpson is dead!” so yeah, O.J. Simpson is dead and maybe we conjured it by talking about his acting and prison work. 
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Discussed this episode:
Earthquake in NYC
Anne loves disaster films: The Poseidon Adventure, The Towering Inferno, Earthquake, Airport
The Day After Tomorrow, Deep Impact, Daylight 
Should we do a disaster movie watch on Patreon? Vote here
Howard Stern is ALIVE (one of his guests, Crazy Cabbie died and Ralph misreported it)
Ralph told me Kelsey Grammar was a statutory rapist and Liam Neeson racist
Is Kate Middleton alive?
Siobhan’s famous scene in Men in Black
Was Phoebe in Shakespeare in the Park’s As You Like It with Nancy Hower and Viola Davis. Directed by Adrian Hall
Appears in 3 of Lars von Trier’s movies: Dancer in the Dark, Dogville, and The House That Jack Built
He created a style of filmmaking called Dogme 95, where no director is credited, handheld, 35mm, etc.
Wrote and directed two movies, Rushed and Shelter in Solitude 
Appeared in Michael Haneke’s Funny Games, which fucked Anne up
Became friends with Lauren Bacall on the set of Dogville
Matt Dillon kills her horrifically in The House That Jack Built
Siobhan is a very serious Irish Catholic, and that informs all of her film choices. 
She got a rubber suit made of her body so it could be dragged behind a truck
Wrote solo shows for herself to get more work
Went to Le Moyne College in Syracuse, NY
Siobhan was on SNL the 1991-92 season.
Delta Delta Delta SNL sketch w/ former guest of this show, Melanie Hutsell
Siobhan good friends with former SNLers, Chris Farley and Ellen Cleghorne
Roseanne Arnold and Tom Arnold were decent SNL hosts, Jason Priestley sweet, Sharon Stone didn’t get it
Siobhan on 3 classic episodes of Seinfeld as Elaine’s roommate
How did Siobhan not get cast as Mark Wahlberg’s sister in The Fighter?
Bernie Mac put on fake teeth to go into hiding during filming of What’s the Worst That Could Happen?
Plays Henry Winkler’s husband in Holes
Played secretary in The Paper, Golden Girls, The Bounty Hunter, New in Town
Appeared in a film from the genre Anne calls, “Men’s Coming of Death.” This one was titled Going in Style, directed by Zach Braff
Would cast Lily Tomlin, Diane Keaton, Shirley MacLaine in her own Women’s Coming of Death
 

Judy, Judy, Judy! We’re just mad about Judy Reyes. You Might Know Her From Birth/Rebirth, Claws, Scrubs, The Horror of Dolores Roach, Smile, Bringing out the Dead, One Day at a Time, and Devious Maids. We talk to Judy all about her Indie Spirit-nominated turn in the indie horror Birth/Rebirth which is a little Frankenstein, a little Thelma & Louise, a little Whatever Happened to Baby Jane–we highly recommend it! Judy takes us through the psychology of playing a grieving mother, acting opposite a child and a pig, and grounding the horror elements. Then, we dig deep into her oeuvre from playing Carla Espinosa for eight seasons on Scrubs to playing gay as Quiet Ann (no -e) in one of the best female ensembles on television on Claws. All that plus, coming in to elevate a horror flick like Smile, headlining the candy-coated Marc Cherry/Eva Longoria dark comedy Devious Maids, and forming a community with other Latina actors in this horrific (we hate but love it) industry. We love you.
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Discussed this episode:
Former guest of the show Da’Vine won an Oscar Sunday night 
Listen to her interview with us from 2022 (Ep #119 from March 2022) 
Anne felt bad for Bradley Cooper mostly because Kimmel’s jokes were fucking homophobic
Go watch Birth/Rebirth with Marin Ireland
Played Carla on Scrubs for 8 seasons
Left show for season 9 “reboot”
Oz first scene with Rita Moreno who didn’t remember her years later on One Day at a Time
El Deportivo on 157th street is closed :( 
Producing Freestyle a Love Story with Ana Ortiz
Justina Machado starred in new musical version of Real Women Have Curves at ART
Lisa Lisa and the Cult Jam
Judy in Guinea Pig Solo at Labyrinth theatre
Has one scene in Smile 
Cosby Mysteries was in fact, two seasons, as Judy suggested
Broken hip for musical number on Scrubs
Marc Cherry developing a psychic housewife drama
Marc Cherry hit Nicolette Sheridan on the head
Anne obsessed with Kate Middleton, someone talk to her about it
Has Kate been Shelly Miscaviged?
Which is more powerful: Scientology or The Royals?
 

Chickens, it’s the year of Barbra! Are you ready? Anne and Damian are back with a special “just us” episode to officially launch the You Might Know Her From Patreon–link in below! Please savor the final just us episode on the regular feed. What we’re getting into: Jason Gould,, the progeny of Barbra and Elliot Gould, as well as Alexis Kalehoff, the daughter of Broadway star Andrea McArdle. Anne also  finally saw Maestro and May December and we’re discussing them deeply including Bradley Cooper’s fake liver spots. Plus, we are READY to discuss Barbra’s memoir and ready to book club Madonna’s brother Christoper Ciccone’s book. 
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Discussed this episode:
Alexis Kalehoff and Andrea McArdle singing “Take Me or Leave Me” the lesbian anthem from Jason Gould’s album Dangerous Man
Lorna Luft’s album, Songs My Mother Taught Me
Should we go on a Broadway cruise?
Joe Machota was in Mamma Mia forever and now is a high-profile agent
Uma's dialect work in Red White and Royal Blue
Uma Thurman in The Producers “If You Got It, Flaunt it”
Alexis McArdle’s dad wrote the theme for The Price is Right and Monday Night Football and Double Dare 
This month Anne watched Maestro, May December, Zone of Interest, Nyad
Jodie Foster Nyad Oscar clip @ 1:39 mark is wild a la Melissa Leo in The Fighter
We love Phyllida Lloyd (“Philtitta”)
Julianne Moore in old age makeup in The Hours
Bradley Cooper is crying with Bernstein’s kids
Here are his liver spots as Leonard Bernstein
Tick Tick Boom movie surprisingly good at capturing the moment of invention
Should we revisit De-Lovely and dear god Beyond the Sea?
Wicked Stepmother co-starring former guest of YMKHF, Colleen Camp (Ep #108)
Barbra’s dinner with Ryan Murphy, Lady Gaga, John Travolta (presumably a Gypsy meeting)
Download Libby! 
Madonna’s brother, Christopher Ciccone wrote a book, Life with My Sister Madonna
Let’s learn about Barbra’s assistant, Renata
Whoopi’s book is forthcoming (May 2024)! / Anne read Frank Langella’s v dishy book